srinivasulu neeli | 3 Aug 2010 13:10
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Sebastian Lauwers | 3 Aug 2010 13:15
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Can we please stop these outright spamming attempts?


I'm really getting quite tired of it.

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<div>I'm really getting quite tired of it.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 August 2010 13:10, srinivasulu neeli <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mailtoprogrammer@...">mailtoprogrammer@...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">

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Andrea Borgia | 3 Aug 2010 17:28
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Il 03/08/2010 13.15, Sebastian Lauwers ha scritto:
> Can we please stop these outright spamming attempts?

It's not just spam, it's stupid spam: a mailing-list address does not
belong to a person in particular and LinkedIn instructs users to do
nothing if the email address does not belong to you.

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Randall Arnold | 12 Aug 2010 22:14

Council brainstorm

Greetings all,

The concept of the maemo.org community council is being challenged and the MeeGo community is finally
becoming one-- perfect confluence of events I think to start seriously discussing what sort of community
council would be needed going forward. I have several thoughts on the subject. Some may seem tangential
but bear with me, there's a single vector at the end. ;) The final opinion though does not necessarily
depend on the sum of all others.

1. I'd like to see Maemo moved underneath the auspices of the Linux Foundation. Maybe a pipe dream, but I
think just the mere change in governance could help with perception issues if nothing else. I am sure Nokia
may have solid reasons for opposing this, but that would be my wish.

2. The need for a maemo.org council is, IMO, possibly diminishing just as the need for a MeeGo one grows, and
there's a lot of overlap. So maybe it makes sense for a council to straddle both worlds simultaneously.
There would of course be identity and voting challenges but nothing insurmountable.

3. I think the council should come under the auspices of the Linux Foundation. That would certainly help
focus the purpose and would be the way to go for MeeGo.

4. I think we should be ready to provide an announcement of whatever we decide or at least a select time to
discuss this in person at the MeeGo Conference. We did not do this formally at Maemo Summit 2009 but I
believe the changes we're experiencing now necessitate a council strategy session for MC2010. Maybe
that should be a BoF?

I have other ideas about MeeGo governance in general but they're not directly relevant to this subject so
I'll address them separately.

Thoughts?

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Andrew Flegg | 13 Aug 2010 10:42
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Re: [MeeGo-community] Council brainstorm

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 21:14, Randall Arnold <texrat@...> wrote:
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> The concept of the maemo.org community council is being challenged
> and the MeeGo community is finally becoming one-- perfect confluence
> of events I think to start seriously discussing what sort of community
> council would be needed going forward.

BACKGROUND
~~~~~~~~~~
The original aims for the "maemo.org Community Council" (as it was
then) were (OTTOMH, I haven't gone back to my original proposal):

  * FACILITATION: To help the community organise itself and
    ensure that everyone didn't have to follow everything.

  * COMMUNICATION: Act as a single voice for the disparate community,
    so that Nokia didn't have to ask "what do you think we should
    do about X" and not know how to sort out the varying opinions.
    Similarly, understanding information from Nokia and helping
    the community understand it.

  * ORGANISATION: Act as a central hub for organising the
    community, e.g. the Maemo Summits, helping with device queues,
    trying to manage the maemo.org team.

More information, and background, at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council.

In that light, even with two main corporate sponsors + Linux
Foundation (and many more), all three of those are relevant, but
perhaps the third is the one which overlaps most with the Community
Office.

Looking at it in more detail: FACILITATION - This doesn't need a
formal council, it's just people who are pervasive making sure they
help across media.

COMMUNICATION - in the examples of "what should we do about X", this
would be the MeeGo project (in some form) asking its community about
something. But if the MeeGo project is open, some mechanism for
getting community members into a formal decision making process
(whether it's the TSG or CO) would seem equivalent.

ORGANISATION - as I said, this seems very similar to the remit of the
Community Office.

So, despite being a big proponent (and one of the original proposers)
of the Maemo Community Council, I *think* I've just talked myself out
of the need of a separate body. *Or*, it's a body which sits across
the sub-prjects, or within the TSG. I certainly think there needs to
be community representation within the decision making processes of
the project and this is the big problem...

WHO IS THE MEEGO "COMMUNITY"?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
At the moment, I don't know. Sure, there's a growing community around
building MeeGo itself and porting it to new platforms. There's a
(small?) user community who have played with MeeGo on a netbook. But,
coming at it from my interests (portable gadgetry), until there is
something really in the hands of power users & enthusiasts (or the
N900 port becomes a day-to-day realistic OS) I'm not sure we can know.

Once you take into account the first MeeGo-ish device will be Nokia's
MeeGo-Harmattan hybrid, the waters get even murkier. Do we want
meego-sdk and/or forum.meego.com full of questions about "I've built
the deb for my package but dpkg is giving me an "error 123" message
when I try to install it"? Similarly, the actual practical aspects of
packages in AppUp & Ovi & community Extras will impact whether or not
there's a cohesive *MeeGo* community, rather than a netbook community,
a Nokia N999 community, a Samsung X2191 community and so on.

So, until things become clearer as to who the MeeGo community is - or
might be - I'm not sure I know what I think.

HOWEVER, I agree that things at the Conference may be an *awful* lot
clearer: by then, if it's not launched, hopefully we'll have seen more
details about Harmattan and the Harmattan device and have an idea of
how the Netbook UX is working from a community PoV.

A BoF at the Conference on community governance and representation
seems sensible - hopefully without too much navel-gazing as to who the
community are, as it'll've become clearer.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Randall Arnold | 14 Aug 2010 09:30

MeeGo Conference 2010: LinkedIn event entry

I added a LinkedIn event entry for the upcoming MeeGo Conference 2010: http://events.linkedin.com/MeeGo-Conference-2010/pub/393262

Note that this is not the official signup page, although the link to the conference site is provided there (and I will repeat here also: http://conference2010.meego.com/).  This new entry is for LinkedIn networking purposes.  Add yourself, and share!

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<div dir="ltr">I added a LinkedIn event entry for the upcoming MeeGo Conference 2010: <a href="http://events.linkedin.com/MeeGo-Conference-2010/pub/393262">http://events.linkedin.com/MeeGo-Conference-2010/pub/393262</a><br><br>
Note that this is not the official signup page, although the link to the conference site is provided there (and I will repeat here also:&nbsp;<a href="http://conference2010.meego.com/">http://conference2010.meego.com/</a>).&nbsp; This new entry is for LinkedIn networking purposes.&nbsp; Add yourself, and share!<br><br><div dir="ltr">
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Andrea Grandi | 16 Aug 2010 22:48
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MeeGo Conference 2010: registration form open an 7 days left for call for paper

Hi all,

first of all, please excuse me for cross-posting, but since this is an
important news I hope I won't disturb anyone :)

Few days ago, on MeeGo website, was published the registration form
where people can register to attend the first MeeGo Conference that
will be in Dublin on November 15th, 16th, and 17th.
You can find the registration form here:
http://conference2010.meego.com/meego-conference-2010-signup

The partecipation is free for all, but people must register because
only 600 spots are available (we already have around 100 people
registered).

Another important thing about the conference is the "call for paper":
developers and power users can submit a talk description (30 or 45
minutes) and if the talk is accepted, they will be able to present it
at the Conference.
Please keep in mind that the last valid day to submit a talk is on
August 23th so only few days left to do it!

The CFP submission form is available here:
http://conference2010.meego.com/node/add/session

Thank you for your attention and we really hope to see you in Dublin
for the first MeeGo Summit!

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Andre Klapper | 25 Aug 2010 13:00

email address as bugtracker link for non-small projects?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Bugtracker_location states
"It is possible to [...] use [...] an email address."
No mentioning of size of project.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist#Lack_of_bug_reporting_database states "An
e-mail address for small projects (wallpapers, for example) can be used".

Now which one is correct? (Plus the same topic/info with slight
differences spread on different pages is not cool.)

Asking for clarification because of discussion on
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_non-free_armel/mycontacts/0.9.13-1/

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Gary Birkett | 25 Aug 2010 13:37
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Re: email address as bugtracker link for non-small projects?

Andre,

An open public tracker is a nice thing to have (for obvious reasons), but some projects do not.
If any testers are unsure of the responsiveness, perhaps they could send a test mail to the address and thumb up if responded to?
It seems like a reasonable mechanism to connect the developer with the testers?

The test mail itself could also include a link to a page on the wiki indicating the benefits of a public tracker..

my 2c

Gary

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Andre Klapper <aklapper-ft1v69bDuIaakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Bugtracker_location states
"It is possible to [...] use [...] an email address."
No mentioning of size of project.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist#Lack_of_bug_reporting_database states "An e-mail address for small projects (wallpapers, for example) can be used".

Now which one is correct? (Plus the same topic/info with slight
differences spread on different pages is not cool.)

Asking for clarification because of discussion on
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_non-free_armel/mycontacts/0.9.13-1/

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It seems like a reasonable mechanism to connect the developer with the testers?<br><br>The test mail itself could also include a link to a page on the wiki indicating the benefits of a public tracker..<br><br>my 2c<br><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Andre Klapper <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:aklapper@...">aklapper@...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<a href="http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Bugtracker_location" target="_blank">http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Bugtracker_location</a> states<br>
"It is possible to [...] use [...] an email address."<br>
No mentioning of size of project.<br><br><a href="http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist#Lack_of_bug_reporting_database" target="_blank">http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist#Lack_of_bug_reporting_database</a> states "An e-mail address for small projects (wallpapers, for example) can be used".<br><br>
Now which one is correct? (Plus the same topic/info with slight<br>
differences spread on different pages is not cool.)<br><br>
Asking for clarification because of discussion on<br><a href="http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_non-free_armel/mycontacts/0.9.13-1/" target="_blank">http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_non-free_armel/mycontacts/0.9.13-1/</a><br><br>
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Dave Neary | 25 Aug 2010 13:43

Re: email address as bugtracker link for non-small projects?

Hi,

Andre Klapper wrote:
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Bugtracker_location states
> "It is possible to [...] use [...] an email address."
> No mentioning of size of project.

This just means that an email address will get past the general
packaging check.

> http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist#Lack_of_bug_reporting_database states "An
e-mail address for small projects (wallpapers, for example) can be used".

And this says that an email address should only be used for small projects.

> Now which one is correct? (Plus the same topic/info with slight
> differences spread on different pages is not cool.)

I don't see any inconsistency myself. In the case of mycontacts, the
question comes down to how many bug reports there are - if it's a
couple, then an email address doesn't seem unappropriate. If it's a
couple of dozen, then it probably is.

> Asking for clarification because of discussion on
> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_non-free_armel/mycontacts/0.9.13-1/

Understood. Thumbs down isn't a nice way to signal that it'd be better
to use a bug tracker.

IMHO, the use of an email address for bug tracking should not be a
reason to -1 a project, but certainly maintainers should be encouraged
to set up a better bug tracker if they have "rich functionality".

Cheers,
Dave.

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