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Fafler | 5 Aug 10:25 2008
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Another go at Familiar

A few years ago i tried Familiar 0.8.4 on a h3900 with little success. Too bad really, because i really like the idea of running Linux on a handheld device.
Anyway, a couple of weeks ago i got a dirt cheap h2200, and it works a lot better. Sound and SD works, it can boot from CF, so i doesn't have to reflash the device every time i want to try something different (transferring images via serial cable at 1150000 bps was a pain in..., having to learn how to cut and paste in CE each time i reboot is a bit less annoing), i can put the CF card in a card reader if i want to access the entire filesystem from my PC and most of all / is 1 gb vs. the 32 mb in the h3900.

But there are still some problems and limitations:

With Opie i can't receive files via bluetooth. It seems to be a known bug, but are there any solution for it?

The cradle doesn't have a serial port. I have a spare cradle for my h3900. Can i gut it and put it inside the h2200 cradle?

The SD card works, but only if the card is formatted with the ext2 filesystem. No luck with fat.

There seem to be a lot of interesting software to try out on my new large root file system, but most of it is for Familiar 0.8.2 or even earlier versions. Can i add the sources to my ipkg system and expect it to work?

If the above doesn' t work, can i install a complete build system on the ipaq and build the software locally? How?

And finally. Is Familiar 0.8.4 going to be the last version ever released? I really appreciate the effort you guys put into it and i would like to see another release.

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Paul Eggleton | 5 Aug 13:59 2008

Re: Another go at Familiar

Fafler wrote:
> With Opie i can't receive files via bluetooth. It seems to be a known bug,
> but are there any solution for it?

The bluetooth stuff is a bit flaky and unfinished, I agree. I'm working on
this for the next version of Opie (1.2.4).

> The cradle doesn't have a serial port. I have a spare cradle for my h3900.
> Can i gut it and put it inside the h2200 cradle?

You could, I believe, since the cables are identical. You could also try
to add serial to the h2200 cradle. Some useful information:

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqSerialCable
http://toykeeper.net/ipaq/cradle

> The SD card works, but only if the card is formatted with the ext2
> filesystem. No luck with fat.

I think this is just a matter of making sure the appropriate kernel module
(vfat) is installed and that the /etc/fstab entry for the card has its
type set to "auto" and not "ext2" or similar.

> There seem to be a lot of interesting software to try out on my new large
> root file system, but most of it is for Familiar 0.8.2 or even earlier
> versions. Can i add the sources to my ipkg system and expect it to work?

I think most packages from 0.8.2 should be compatible with 0.8.4, yes.

> If the above doesn' t work, can i install a complete build system on the
> ipaq and build the software locally? How?

Native building on the iPAQ is more trouble than it's worth -
cross-compilation is the way to go. One way to do this is to use a build
system such as OpenEmbedded (familiar-build, which was used to build
Familiar 0.8.x, is based on an older version of OE).

> And finally. Is Familiar 0.8.4 going to be the last version ever released?

Well, I can't speak for the Familiar developers as they have been pretty
silent on this issue, and there hasn't been much activity for a while
AFAICT. However, there are other more up-to-date distributions that
support the iPAQ.

Cheers,
Paul
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Pablo Manuel Rizzo | 5 Aug 14:46 2008

Re: Another go at Familiar

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 05:25, Fafler <fafler <at> gmail.com> wrote:
A few years ago i tried Familiar 0.8.4 on a h3900 with little success. Too bad really, because i really like the idea of running Linux on a handheld device.
Anyway, a couple of weeks ago i got a dirt cheap h2200, and it works a lot better. Sound and SD works, it can boot from CF, so i doesn't have to reflash the device every time i want to try something different (transferring images via serial cable at 1150000 bps was a pain in..., having to learn how to cut and paste in CE each time i reboot is a bit less annoing), i can put the CF card in a card reader if i want to access the entire filesystem from my PC and most of all / is 1 gb vs. the 32 mb in the h3900.

But there are still some problems and limitations:

With Opie i can't receive files via bluetooth. It seems to be a known bug, but are there any solution for it?

The cradle doesn't have a serial port. I have a spare cradle for my h3900. Can i gut it and put it inside the h2200 cradle?

The SD card works, but only if the card is formatted with the ext2 filesystem. No luck with fat.

There seem to be a lot of interesting software to try out on my new large root file system, but most of it is for Familiar 0.8.2 or even earlier versions. Can i add the sources to my ipkg system and expect it to work?

If the above doesn' t work, can i install a complete build system on the ipaq and build the software locally? How?

And finally. Is Familiar 0.8.4 going to be the last version ever released? I really appreciate the effort you guys put into it and i would like to see another release.

You should try Angstrom

http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/

Regards

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Paul Eggleton | 5 Aug 23:04 2008

Re: Another go at Familiar

On Tuesday 05 August 2008, Fafler wrote:
> With Opie i can't receive files via bluetooth. It seems to be a known bug,
> but are there any solution for it?

Actually thinking about it, I could be wrong, but I think you should still be 
able to beam files via bluetooth using the File Manager in Opie. Does that 
not work?

Cheers,
Paul
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Morten Hulden | 6 Aug 01:08 2008
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Re: Another go at Familiar

Paul Eggleton wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 August 2008, Fafler wrote:
>> With Opie i can't receive files via bluetooth. It seems to be a known bug,
>> but are there any solution for it?
> 
> Actually thinking about it, I could be wrong, but I think you should still be 
> able to beam files via bluetooth using the File Manager in Opie. Does that 
> not work?

This is for setting up a Bluetooth GPS connection, but it should give 
you a rough idea of what you need to do to get BT beaming to work, if it 
doesn't:

http://www.frontiernet.net/~beakmyn/bluetooth%20Ipaq%203975.htm

M.

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