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ROBERT CAMPBELL | 8 Feb 2002 15:36
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What about Agenda's PIM software

I'm a potential user, not a developer.  Is the PIM software developed for the agenda being considered as a
starting point?  If not the interface (based on FLTK), then the inner workings?

Does anyone know of a project site dedicated to this software?

Rob Campbell
rcampbell <at> suss.com
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Nils Faerber | 8 Feb 2002 15:44
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Re: What about Agenda's PIM software

On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:36:50 -0500
"ROBERT CAMPBELL" <RCAMPBEL <at> suss.com> wrote:
> I'm a potential user, not a developer.  Is the PIM software developed
> for the agenda being considered as a starting point?  If not the
> interface (based on FLTK), then the inner workings?
We thought about it, yes, but decided against it.
Mainly because of three important issues:
- To rip-off the GUI from the inner workings is a very tough job and
comprable to a rewrite.
- The Agenda apps are very primitive. Goal should be something more
sophisticated.
- The Agenda have no real good common concepts underneith. We wanted to
use a common storage, namely SQLite, for all applications that store data.
On top a common API for synchronisation of data should also be braught in
place. We thought about using SyncML but the SyncML consortium did not yet
answer our repeated request for licensing information. Their web-site is
quite unclear about it.

> Does anyone know of a project site dedicated to this software?
Look at Agenda's site. They have public CVS and discussion groups for it.

> Rob Campbell
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Jerry Sternesky | 9 Feb 2002 19:01
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A couple of questions

I am new to linux on the ipaq, only first installed it 2 weeks ago.  I
looked at qtopia and while it was nice looking, I am not sure that is
the route I want to go.  I think I would prefer a true linux like system
running x and so on.  It would appear that gpe is going to be more my
style.  The posting on familiar that lead me to this project mentioned a
release for gpe is imminent. So I was wondering what the time table is
on this and if all the PIM functions will be in the release.

Right now I have ion running with a couple of small utility apps,
nothing truly functional at the moment, just plinking around.  So I
wouldn't mind installing the gpe packages if you could use another
person to test them. If someone could point me to them I would
appreciate it.  If the link is on the page I am sorry, but I keep
missing it.

In my package manger the only gpe related item I have is gpe-appmgrz. 
The only ipkg source I have at the moment is:
familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l.

Anyway I would like to try and get involved.

Thanks,

Jerry
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Robert Mibus | 10 Feb 2002 00:52

Re: A couple of questions

On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 04:31, Jerry Sternesky wrote:
> I am new to linux on the ipaq, only first installed it 2 weeks ago.  I
> looked at qtopia and while it was nice looking, I am not sure that is
> the route I want to go.  I think I would prefer a true linux like system
> running x and so on.  It would appear that gpe is going to be more my
> style.  The posting on familiar that lead me to this project mentioned a
> release for gpe is imminent. So I was wondering what the time table is
> on this and if all the PIM functions will be in the release.
Not in the first release, no. Only things I mentioned in that post will
released with the first release AFAIK. (This probably excludes the MP3
player 'cos it crashes too much ATM :)

ATM The best you could hope for is the current GPE apps, and the other
Gtk-based PIM apps (Mingle, Notepaq, Toad, Chronicle).

Probable first-release packages:
 matchbox
 gpe-appmgr
 tetris/solitaire
 gnotepad
 system control applets
and a few other bits & pieces,

There is, to my knowledge, no specific timeline set up yet except for
"get the first release out of the door soonish".

> Right now I have ion running with a couple of small utility apps,
> nothing truly functional at the moment, just plinking around.  So I
> wouldn't mind installing the gpe packages if you could use another
> person to test them. If someone could point me to them I would
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Owen Cliffe | 10 Feb 2002 04:13
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sqlLite

Just out of curiosity is anybody else hacking a networked lightweight
sqld?

I have started working on a really basic sqlite-based sql daemon, which
while not giving you a huge advantage over basic libsqlite should be a
start.

I know about gadfly but i figure something native might give a bit more
flexibility in the long run, basically at the moment my api is more or
less equivalent  to the current  sqlite one (i.e. ODBC-like).

owen
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Nils Faerber | 10 Feb 2002 16:30

Re: A couple of questions

On 10 Feb 2002 10:22:13 +1030
Robert Mibus <mibus <at> bigpond.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 04:31, Jerry Sternesky wrote:
> > I am new to linux on the ipaq, only first installed it 2 weeks ago.  I
> > looked at qtopia and while it was nice looking, I am not sure that is
> > the route I want to go.  I think I would prefer a true linux like
> system
> > running x and so on.  It would appear that gpe is going to be more my
> > style.  The posting on familiar that lead me to this project mentioned
> a
> > release for gpe is imminent. So I was wondering what the time table is
> > on this and if all the PIM functions will be in the release.
> Not in the first release, no. Only things I mentioned in that post will
> released with the first release AFAIK. (This probably excludes the MP3
> player 'cos it crashes too much ATM :)
Hmm ... my version currently mostly works ;) At least it does not crash
though the playlist handling is as we know not what we wish. But at least
it works ;)

> ATM The best you could hope for is the current GPE apps, and the other
> Gtk-based PIM apps (Mingle, Notepaq, Toad, Chronicle).
Which will not be part of GPE however.

> Probable first-release packages:
>  matchbox
>  gpe-appmgr
>  tetris/solitaire
>  gnotepad
>  system control applets
> and a few other bits & pieces,
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Philip Blundell | 10 Feb 2002 16:35
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Re: A couple of questions

On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 15:30, Nils Faerber wrote:
> The PIM problem is urgent for example...

Was there ever a final resolution to the debate on how and where PIM
data would be stored?

p.
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Nils Faerber | 10 Feb 2002 16:54

Re: A couple of questions

On 10 Feb 2002 15:35:52 +0000
Philip Blundell <pb <at> nexus.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 15:30, Nils Faerber wrote:
> > The PIM problem is urgent for example...
> Was there ever a final resolution to the debate on how and where PIM
> data would be stored?

IIRC correctly the consens was to use SQLite now and see if it works for
it. We have almost no other choice. Maybe we should an additional glue
library on top of SQLite to allow for example easy querying of multiple
databases (think of internal and external storage space for example).
But basically, yes there was a resolution: SQLite ;)

> p.
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Noel J. Bergman | 10 Feb 2002 16:59

RE: A couple of questions

SQL tables, I believe, but no one has proposed as formal schema.

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Jerry Sternesky | 10 Feb 2002 17:16
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Re: A couple of questions

Thanks to both you and Robert for your reply's. So it seems like the
suggested course of action at this time is to sit tight and watch the
list for announcements.  I can do that. :) Anyway, I did install mingle,
chronicle, notepaq and toad yesterday, however that is still all under
ion.  But heck it's something to fiddle with while watching the
Olympics.

On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 10:30, Nils Faerber wrote:
> On 10 Feb 2002 10:22:13 +1030
> Robert Mibus <mibus <at> bigpond.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 04:31, Jerry Sternesky wrote:
> > > I am new to linux on the ipaq, only first installed it 2 weeks ago.  I
> > > looked at qtopia and while it was nice looking, I am not sure that is
> > > the route I want to go.  I think I would prefer a true linux like
> > system
> > > running x and so on.  It would appear that gpe is going to be more my
> > > style.  The posting on familiar that lead me to this project mentioned
> > a
> > > release for gpe is imminent. So I was wondering what the time table is
> > > on this and if all the PIM functions will be in the release.
> > Not in the first release, no. Only things I mentioned in that post will
> > released with the first release AFAIK. (This probably excludes the MP3
> > player 'cos it crashes too much ATM :)
> Hmm ... my version currently mostly works ;) At least it does not crash
> though the playlist handling is as we know not what we wish. But at least
> it works ;)
> 
> > ATM The best you could hope for is the current GPE apps, and the other
> > Gtk-based PIM apps (Mingle, Notepaq, Toad, Chronicle).
> Which will not be part of GPE however.
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