I'd like to point out a link that I recently saw posted on Slashdot that really opened my eyes about how an efficient and useful HCI should act: http://www.asktog.com/columns/022DesignedToGiveFitts.html I wonder if applying these principles might eventually give Y-Windows a competitive edge over Mac OS...
I think Fitts Law is a good thing. I also think however, that making
something fairly intuitive by default should take precedence over
reducing access time, with an option to change it later if
possible(which should be almost always IMO). Anyone else agree with me
on that?
That said, I would support a HIG which was high on Fitt's law. I think
that in any case, a HIG is needed before we reach 1.0 or we will end up
with messy UIs like GNOME 1.4 did(they did an amazing job of cleaning
it up, in their defense).
AF
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main(){char ch[7];ch[1]=(ch[4]=((ch[3]=(ch[2]=103)^14)^12))^16;
ch[5]=(ch[6]=(ch[0]=(ch[1]>>1)+7)&42)+10;printf(ch);}
Hi everyone, a first release of the Eiffel client library is availabe here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103251&package_id=116574&release_id=235534 The release includes generated html documentation and a small tutorial. Many thanks to Richard Hill for his support. Andreas Karafyllis
Jonathan Harper wrote: > Could we get a new look at the new API for 0.3? I realize a lot of work is > going on under the hood, but I'd like to get a feel for what's changing and > what to expect, even if it isn't final. According to the roadmap 0.3 was scheduled for 2004-04-04. It should be updated. Jens Lehmann -- -- This message was ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security. PGP Public Key: http://studenten-dresden.de/public_key.asc
On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 10:26, Jens Lehmann wrote: > Jonathan Harper wrote: > > Could we get a new look at the new API for 0.3? I realize a lot of work is > > going on under the hood, but I'd like to get a feel for what's changing and > > what to expect, even if it isn't final. > > According to the roadmap 0.3 was scheduled for 2004-04-04. It should be > updated. Yes. The main reason for that is that Mark's ISP flaked out. Organising an open-source project and working on code is hard without a reliable means of communication! David -- -- David McBride <dwm <at> y-windows.org>
> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 10:26, Jens Lehmann wrote: > > Jonathan Harper wrote: > > > Could we get a new look at the new API for 0.3? I realize a lot of work is > > > going on under the hood, but I'd like to get a feel for what's changing and > > > what to expect, even if it isn't final. > > > > According to the roadmap 0.3 was scheduled for 2004-04-04. It should be > > updated. > > Yes. The main reason for that is that Mark's ISP flaked out. > Organising an open-source project and working on code is hard without a > reliable means of communication! Does that mean he's back now? Or is he still having issues? The traffic on this list has just about stopped. Is anyone doing anything besides the various language binding guys? Even #y-windows is dead! -- -- Casey Winans <casey <at> cwinans.com>
Is anyone out there? Has anyone heard from Mark? Did he loose interest or has he just been busy with work? I'd hate to see this project go down when it has so much potential. If anyone is still producing work would you post to the list so others know that the project is still kicking? Lately, libYeiffel was released. Rawler and I are working on libYsharp. There are bindings for perl, python, c, and c++. There is a project calling itself "Y+" (yplus.org) that was started by the guy that was working on the widget branch for Y. Asufield is working on the message protocol (or was). There is/was a new drawing API in the works that Mark was waiting on to continue work on a hardware accelerated canvas... this is all I know or have heard. I've also seen many new comers coming to #y-windows only to leave because no one is talking. I have tried to let people know what is going on to the best of my knowledge, but that is at best a small effort as I'm not in the main loop (I'm just a mailing list and irc lurker who happens to be building .net bindings for Y). -- -- Casey Winans <casey <at> cwinans.com>
I'll be expanding ywindows.white-walls.net shortly. I'll go ahead and ahead yplus.org to the list. One thing that /I'd/ like to see are some extra programs for Y, especially a control panel, no matter how weak. Proof of concepts are always useful, especially if it shows Y loading and unloading a module. Hell, I'd take a program that displays raw information about the Y server using the current Y widgets. Right now, it's the simple stuff that matters. Oh, and I think we really ought to come up with some kind of leadership. Mark is still with us, but he's admittedly quite busy with school and other such normal life things. Y can't survive witha leadership vacuum. On Wednesday 12 May 2004 08:36 am, Casey Winans wrote: > Is anyone out there? > > Has anyone heard from Mark? Did he loose interest or has he just been > busy with work? > > I'd hate to see this project go down when it has so much potential. If > anyone is still producing work would you post to the list so others know > that the project is still kicking? > > > Lately, libYeiffel was released. Rawler and I are working on libYsharp. > There are bindings for perl, python, c, and c++. There is a project > calling itself "Y+" (yplus.org) that was started by the guy that was > working on the widget branch for Y. Asufield is working on the message > protocol (or was). There is/was a new drawing API in the works that Mark > was waiting on to continue work on a hardware accelerated canvas... this(Continue reading)
Jonathan Harper [Wed, May 12, 2004 at 09:06:07AM -0400]: > [...] > > Y can't survive witha leadership vacuum. Completly right. Leadership and project planning. And open minds (to reuse things already done for example in fresco/berlin). Nico -- -- Keep it simple & stupid, use what's available. pgp: 8D0E E27A | Nico Schottelius http://nerd-hosting.net | http://linux.schottelius.org
I am graduating with my CS degree next week. I was planning on spending time working on some of the missing pieces of Y, mainly widgets (i have written some widgets for X before), but lately I have been wondering if my time wouldn't be better spent on a different project. I would like to see this project succeed, but there seems to be a lack of leadership and it appears to be dying fast. If someone is willing to take up the helm, they can count me in for some of the grunt work. I would really like to see a release (.3?) done soon that integrates all the work that has been done so far. -Dustin Norlander cheapskatefonts.com Casey Winans wrote: >Is anyone out there? > >Has anyone heard from Mark? Did he loose interest or has he just been >busy with work? > >I'd hate to see this project go down when it has so much potential. If >anyone is still producing work would you post to the list so others know >that the project is still kicking? > > >Lately, libYeiffel was released. Rawler and I are working on libYsharp. >There are bindings for perl, python, c, and c++. There is a project >calling itself "Y+" (yplus.org) that was started by the guy that was >working on the widget branch for Y. Asufield is working on the message(Continue reading)
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