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linuxcbon | 3 Jun 19:57
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questions about Y

Hello Mark Thomas,

I have few questions maybe you could answer ?

- what don't you like in X window ?
- what is new in Y window / X window ?
- how do you plan the future of Y window ? (no activity since years).

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David McBride | 5 Jun 12:48

Re: questions about Y

On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 19:57 +0200, linuxcbon wrote:

> - what don't you like in X window ?
> - what is new in Y window / X window ?

RTFM: http://y-windows.org/about.html

> - how do you plan the future of Y window ? (no activity since years).

Most active developers seem to be working on X.org in preference to Y at
the moment.

Cheers,
David
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Jochen Rassler | 5 Jun 12:40

Re: questions about Y

Hi.

current activity is on the dsy-fork:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dsywindows

cheers,
Jochen

On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:57:34 +0200 (CEST)
linuxcbon <linuxcbon <at> yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Hello Mark Thomas,
> 
> I have few questions maybe you could answer ?
> 
> - what don't you like in X window ?
> - what is new in Y window / X window ?
> - how do you plan the future of Y window ? (no activity since years).
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> 
> 	
> 
> 	
> 		
> ___________________________________________________________________________ 
> Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés :
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Pupeno | 5 Apr 01:59
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Download lattest y

Hello,
I've tried to compile Y 0.2.1 but I failed, various errors. I'd like to try 
the lattest (from the arch repository) but I can't figure it out how to 
download it. Can you please tell me ?
Thank you.
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Chris Rawnsley | 5 Apr 13:12
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Re: Download lattest y

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On 05/04/06, Pupeno <pupeno <at> pupeno.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I've tried to compile Y 0.2.1 but I failed, various errors. I'd like to try
> the lattest (from the arch repository) but I can't figure it out how to
> download it. Can you please tell me ?
> Thank you.
> --
> Pupeno <pupeno <at> pupeno.com> (http://pupeno.com)
>


See if you have any luck with http://dsywindows.sourceforge.net/wiki/
Project Page -> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/dsywindows/
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Diman Todorov | 5 Apr 14:10
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Re: Download lattest y

you can find an introduction to arch here
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnu-arch/#introduction

best regards
diman todorov

On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:12 , Chris Rawnsley wrote:


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> On 05/04/06, Pupeno <pupeno <at> pupeno.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I've tried to compile Y 0.2.1 but I failed, various errors. I'd  
>> like to try
>> the lattest (from the arch repository) but I can't figure it out  
>> how to
>> download it. Can you please tell me ?
>> Thank you.
>> --
>> Pupeno <pupeno <at> pupeno.com> (http://pupeno.com)
>>
>
> See if you have any luck with http://dsywindows.sourceforge.net/wiki/
> Project Page -> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/dsywindows/
>
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webmaster | 20 Mar 03:29

Some riddles ...

There are two "riddles" to me at the moment:

1. What does the following configure on my SUSE Linux 10 mean?
->
...
Your linker does not appear to support C++ versioned symbols. It is probably
either too old, or not GNU binutils.

A workaround has been enabled that should permit libYc++ to basically work,
but you must avoid having two different versions of libYc++ installed at the
same time, and binaries linked against it on this system should not be
distributed.
<-

That is especially important to me because of the second part of that message 
(redistribution issues).

and 
2. Why is an older version of the libsigc++ necessary to compile Y? Can't that 
be fixed? What is the reason for that?

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webmaster | 19 Mar 08:34

First results of 'trial and error'

Well,
I tried to compile several versions on a SUSE Linux 10.0 (with all the latest 
updates).

The original branch from Marks website did not compile at all. Too many errors 
here while compiling, some of them even red coloured...

Then I tried all the branches from Dustins {arch} distributions (--dustin, 
--cairo, --pixbuf).  Those compiled at least without any errors but some 
problems neverthelless. Note: I DID update all the patches via tla before 
building.

I get the following error message with all the packages (at make or 
make/install stage):

->
...
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/PROJECTS/Y--cairo--0.2--patch-20/Y'
Making install in libYc++
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/PROJECTS/Y--cairo--0.2--patch-20/libYc++'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../Y/CheckBox.ycd', needed by 
`Y/c++/CheckBox.yh'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/PROJECTS/Y--cairo--0.2--patch-20/libYc++'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
<-

There is also a general problem with my setup, because there is the following 
message with configure:

->
...
Your linker does not appear to support C++ versioned symbols. It is probably
either too old, or not GNU binutils.

A workaround has been enabled that should permit libYc++ to basically work,
but you must avoid having two different versions of libYc++ installed at the
same time, and binaries linked against it on this system should not be
distributed.
<-

However, the Y executable will be put out, but trying to start it does 
actually nothing, except to load the module into memory...

I'll see what I can do to get that working. Other projects I made recently did 
all compile and work right.

Maybe there is anyone, who has an idea for solving those problems above?
Most problems I have is all the autoconfig, configure and make stuff, because
such things are quasy nonexistent on Windows. It seems, that you are more 
bussy with telling the System via thousand different input configuration 
files, what it has to do or not to do on a Linux...

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webmaster | 18 Mar 22:38

Hello

Hello.

I want to (shortly) introduce myself hereby.
I am a (C/C++) developer from Germany being recently very interested in 
Linux and its concepts. I did mainly GUI and DSP development and 
webdesign (on the Windows platform) in the past.

Some of my special interests are also professional audio and music studio 
technology and coding for that area.

I found the Y Window System very interesting, because I saw very fast the 
common problems with the good old X systems on Linux after starting with it. 
Thousands of window managers, GUI frameworks and dependencies is quite 
confusing for a Linux newbe, well surely even for the white rabbits of you 
too... 

But I am also aware of the fact, that X11 for instance, is actively used with 
the actual Macintosh OS... 

However,
reading the Y Window System documentation by Mark was like a fascinating 
shining sparkle in the dark of all my confusing Linux experience in the past. 
I like the concept, the clearness and it also gave me some spontaneous ideas 
for a future direction.

In the next time I'll try to examine all the material (regarding Y) available 
on the internet intensively and 'I'll see if I can connect some of the ideas 
of my past work (especially GUI and graphics design and widgets coding) to 
contribute to the project.

I know, Y is not that much frequented lately. But even this fact makes it  
interesting to me. I never used to be in the mainstream...
I also know, that probably Y will never replace the X system (for some certain 
reasons), but I believe we could try to develop this fantastic idea somehow  
further, maybe giving it a completely new direction ...

Kind regards.

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Diman Todorov | 21 Feb 09:49
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Design decision question

Hello,
I am currently working on making a ipc security module

in the most recent version from dustin there's only unix sockets and  
they are in the Y server core
in the last version from mark the ipc is in a dynamically loaded module

should i keep the ipc in the Y core or should i make an ipc module?

best regards
Diman
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Diman Todorov | 20 Feb 18:57
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current status

what's the current status of y-windows?
is the tar ball on the web site the latest version or is the arch  
site further along
today i fixed the 0.2.1 release to compile on my fedora amd64 (it had  
a few evil
assumptions on the word size :)
i am planning to continue coding for y-windows but i'd prefer to  
write my code
for the latest  version of y-windows
how do i go about submitting patches to the project?

best regards
diman todorov
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