Arun Persaud | 5 Apr 2010 00:47
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released 4.4.3

Hi

I just uploaded 4.4.3 and posted messages on several email lists and
news groups.

HGM: can you updated the winforum and contact debian?
Tim: could you update freshmeat?

I also updated the webpages, let me know if you run into some errors
anywhere...

cheers

ARUN

Arun Persaud | 5 Apr 2010 06:27
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released 4.4.3

Hi

I just uploaded 4.4.3 and posted messages on several email lists and
news groups.

HGM: can you updated the winforum and contact debian?
Tim: could you update freshmeat?

I also updated the webpages, let me know if you run into some errors
anywhere...

cheers

ARUN

h.g. muller | 5 Apr 2010 21:00
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Re: released 4.4.3

OK,

I built a WinBoard version of 4.4.3 and used it to replace the winboard.exe 
in the installer.
I updated the links in the WinBoard forum download section to point to this 
new installer.
I announced the release on TalkChess, WB forum and Rybka forum.

I noticed the following, which escaped my attention before:
The tarball contains a winboard/parser.c, while the makefiles expect it in 
./parser.c.
As I have flex installed, this is no problem: it just generates a new 
parser.c, and you have to
pay really close attention to notice that it does. But it kind of defeats 
the purpose of including
a parser.c in the tarball.

A second point where I goofed is the Windows HTML help. The project file 
for this
(winboard/help/winboard.hhp) still refers to completely different contents 
and index files
than those in the tree. For me, those files are there, so i did not notice 
it. (Except that
I changed one for this release, and the change did not end up in the index 
of the compiled
help file.) But for others the files won't exist in the place where the 
project file specifies them.
In fact a compiled .chm file is included in the tar ball. I guess I put it 
there myself, when
I registered an enture directory for inclusion in git, but I am not sure if 
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Arun Persaud | 5 Apr 2010 21:00
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next steps after 4.4.3

Hi

here are some thoughts about the next versions of XBoard/Winboard. At
the moment we have 3 branches:

* 4.4.x (stable): mostly for bugfixing and perhaps small new features...
* master: lots of new features, trying to close the gap between Winboard
and Xboard
* gtk: not usable yet

For the next steps I would say we should perhaps do another 4.4.x
release with only bugfixes, but mainly focus on unifying XBoard and
Winboard and then branch 4.5.x from master.
HGM already made a lot of changes towards moving things from Winboard to
XBoard and the other way around... areas we still need to work on are
for example

* unifying the documentation and have everything in a .texi file (and
generate windows compatible html-help files from there) or perhaps a RST
file from where we can produce .texi and the windows html help files.
* unifying key-bindings. Use standard gtk key-bindings for things like
save, quit, preferences, so that users in 4.5.x won't have to change
habits again when we move to gtk. Have windows and unix use the same
keybindings for everything.
* unify menu entries

What do you all think?

If people want to help out with any of this, or have other agendas they
would like to see developed in XBoard/Winboard...  let us know.
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h.g. muller | 5 Apr 2010 23:30
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Re: next steps after 4.4.3

At 12:00 5-4-2010 -0700, Arun Persaud wrote:
>Hi
>
>here are some thoughts about the next versions of XBoard/Winboard. At
>the moment we have 3 branches:
>
>* 4.4.x (stable): mostly for bugfixing and perhaps small new features...
>* master: lots of new features, trying to close the gap between Winboard
>and Xboard
>* gtk: not usable yet
>
>For the next steps I would say we should perhaps do another 4.4.x
>release with only bugfixes, but mainly focus on unifying XBoard and
>Winboard and then branch 4.5.x from master.

Well, if another 4.4.x release would be needed will be mainly determined
by if we or others discover important new bugs. Lately not many new bugs
have surfaced. Most bugs that were fixed in 4.4.3 were bugs related to the
Chat Windows, which were a new feature in 4.4.1.

>HGM already made a lot of changes towards moving things from Winboard to
>XBoard and the other way around... areas we still need to work on are
>for example
>
>* unifying the documentation and have everything in a .texi file (and
>generate windows compatible html-help files from there) or perhaps a RST
>file from where we can produce .texi and the windows html help files.

Indeed, not having to duplicate or triplicate the effort of updating the 
help would
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Arun Persaud | 5 Apr 2010 22:55
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Re: next steps after 4.4.3

Hi

> Can you give me an overview of the standard GTK bindings? 

here are some for gnome:

http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/input-keyboard.html.en

I don't think we will have a lot of overlap, but in case we have a
similar entry, I think it wouldn't hurt to use the same shortcut and
also the same acceleration key... since we will have lots of entries
that are not common with other applications, perhaps it would be more
important to avoid popular gnome keybindings, so that people don't get
confused...

Another way to go would be to look at some other chess programs and try
to get similar keybindings as they do like scid for example.

As far as saving files goes, I would think we should do ctrl-s for games
and shift-control-s for positions and make that consistent everywhere...
(think this is the way it is in Winboard already?)

ARUN


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