Han-Wen Nienhuys | 1 Sep 2008 01:35
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Re: How hard is something like CADB to do?

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Carl D. Sorensen <c_sorensen <at> byu.edu> wrote:

> My take on this is that you will need to do the following:
>

In general, I found that it is easiest to work backwards within the
program structure.  Start implementing whatever is closest to the
layout, then add more and more abstraction towards the frontend of the
program, to arrive at something you'd want to input.

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Han-Wen Nienhuys | 1 Sep 2008 01:36
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Re: Consolidating command-line options

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer
<reinhold <at> kainhofer.com> wrote:

> - -h, --help     ... usage and options
> - -o, --output   ... output file
> - -v, --verbose  ... verbose
> - -V, --version  ... version number
> - -w, --warranty ... warranty and copyright

we don't have to have short letter for options. I think both --version
and --warranty do not need a short option.

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Baruch | 1 Sep 2008 07:08

Thank you.

Hello:

I just wanted to thank you for this fine piece of work.  I've just started
exploring what lilypond can do, and I have to say I am deeply impressed.

It is apparent that you not only are fine programmers, but also that you have a
wonderful sense of the beauty of engraved music.  That is something I have
seldom heard discussed, but that I believe is important to those who read music.
 As you hinted, a musician can probably do with just about any old grouping of
notes on a page - but the beauty of fine engraving adds to the experience.  I
must admit that some of the finer points you discuss are lost on me, but perhaps
as I work with lilypond I'll be better able to see them.

Anyway, just thank you for a wonderful program.

-Baruch
David Kastrup | 1 Sep 2008 08:13
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Re: Thank you.

Baruch <baruch <at> blessedb.org> writes:

>  As you hinted, a musician can probably do with just about any old
> grouping of notes on a page - but the beauty of fine engraving adds to
> the experience.  I must admit that some of the finer points you
> discuss are lost on me, but perhaps as I work with lilypond I'll be
> better able to see them.

Ah, but the epitome of good typesetting is inconspicuousness.  You are
only made aware of the involved issues by its absence.

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Valentin Villenave | 1 Sep 2008 18:11
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ly files as a MIMEtype?

Greetings,

sometimes I wonder what it would take to register .ly files as an
official "text/lilypond" MIMEtype (for instance at IANA, on
http://www.iana.org/cgi-bin/mediatypes.pl )

First of all, maybe this would make LilyPond integration easier for
Internet users (for instance, LilyPond could directly process
downloaded .ly files using a dedicated Firefox extension, or
whatever).

But the main reason why I'm asking that is because I've often noticed
that, when my pupils install LilyPond on their (Windows) computer and
create their first .ly file, they invariably mistake the "note" icon
for an *application* icon, although it's actually a *document* icon.

(if you don't know which icon I'm referring to, have a look at
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/pictures/ly.xpm
)

Therefore, I have taken the liberty to draw some icons (attached
here), based on the "note" icon.
- one follows the Apple human interface guidelines
- one follows the MS Vista guidelines (yeah, no comment)
- one follows the Tango guidelines (GNOME, XFCE and GTK)
- one follows the Oxygen guidelines (the official theme for KDE4)

I don't know what to do with these, maybe you guys will have an idea.
It would be just great if GNOME or KDE included a default lilypond
MIMEtype Icon for .ly files (the Windows/Apple ones could just be
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Karl Hammar | 1 Sep 2008 19:05
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Re: ly files as a MIMEtype?

Valentin wrote:
> sometimes I wonder what it would take to register .ly files as an
> official "text/lilypond" MIMEtype (for instance at IANA, on
> http://www.iana.org/cgi-bin/mediatypes.pl )

Very nice idéa!

But it seems you have to read a lot of rfc's for that.

An easier way might be to file a "bug" report in debian like
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=379838
and other distributions.

Or the lilypond installation might add it.

...
> (if you don't know which icon I'm referring to, have a look at
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/pictures/ly.xpm
> )
> 
> Therefore, I have taken the liberty to draw some icons (attached
> here), based on the "note" icon.
> - one follows the Apple human interface guidelines
> - one follows the MS Vista guidelines (yeah, no comment)
> - one follows the Tango guidelines (GNOME, XFCE and GTK)
> - one follows the Oxygen guidelines (the official theme for KDE4)

Wery nice examples, but I must say my first reaction is the it looks 
like a stand, a claw, or something, but not a note.

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Werner LEMBERG | 1 Sep 2008 20:17
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Re: ly files as a MIMEtype?

> Therefore, I have taken the liberty to draw some icons (attached
> here), based on the "note" icon.  [...]

Very nice!

    Werner
Valentin Villenave | 1 Sep 2008 21:22
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Re: ly files as a MIMEtype?

2008/9/1 Karl Hammar <karl <at> aspodata.se>:

> Wery nice examples, but I must say my first reaction is the it looks
> like a stand, a claw, or something, but not a note.

LOL, this is exactly what I thought when I first saw the ly.xpm icon :-)

(more like a Pacman-style mouth than a claw, to be accurate)

I guess I somehow ended up getting used to it...

Cheers,
Valentin
Valentin Villenave | 1 Sep 2008 21:44
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Re: ly files as a MIMEtype?

2008/9/1 Karl Hammar <karl <at> aspodata.se>:

> But it seems you have to read a lot of rfc's for that.

As far as I can see, there are only four you're supposed to read, and
the Wikipedia page sums it up pretty well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME

Most of these RFCs are related to the way MIME files are attached to a
mail, AFAICS. Perhaps the only thing to keep in mind is the UTF-8
encoding, as specified in RFC3023.

Cheers,
Valentin
Carl D. Sorensen | 2 Sep 2008 01:57

Re: [PATCHES] Re: Harp Pedals?

Here's a cropped, 600 DPI png file.

Carl

On 8/31/08 5:07 AM, "Francisco Vila" <paconet.org <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> 2008/8/31 Carl D. Sorensen <c_sorensen <at> byu.edu>:
>> I've put together an oval-circle code that is less "pointy" than the
>> ellipses.  I've used two cubic bezier curves.
>>
>> I think I don't want to push the changes until I get some concurrence from
>> Reinhard and Francisco.
>>
>> I've attached a png output of the new code.  What do you think?
>
> Maybe if you send a better-resolution, cropped image (which should not
> be too large) or a PDF, I could appreciate it better. Right now the
> oval looks as if it crosses over the rectangle, is this OK?
>
> But do not rely on my humble opinion...
>
> --
> Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
> http://www.paconet.org

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