translating lilypond 2.0

Hi!

Now that lilypond 2.0 is out, will you consider putting it up for
translation too at the translation project?

I would like to donate some money to the project, but the page says that
you can't accept paypal donations, is this still the case? Is there some
other way I can donate?

Regards,

	Martin

Re: LilyPond 2.1.5

On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 11:56:23AM +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> 
> 
> Happy new year!
> 
> Escape from those boring New Year's parties, concerts and hangovers,
> and play with reincarnation 2.1.5 of your favorite music typesetter.
> 

Forgot to upload?? 2.1.4 is the newest on ftp.lilypond.org.

Happy new year!

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Re: LilyPond 2.1.5

tca <at> gnu.org writes:
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 11:56:23AM +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Happy new year!
> > 
> > Escape from those boring New Year's parties, concerts and hangovers,
> > and play with reincarnation 2.1.5 of your favorite music typesetter.
> > 
> 
> Forgot to upload?? 2.1.4 is the newest on ftp.lilypond.org.

Huh? the RPM did arrive. I'm uploading as I write.

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lyrics

First of all, congratulations for the new lyrics alignment engine. It
is a good improvement. :) Thanks for developing it, speccially now i
like because i'm using lyrics very much.

I want to ask for a new improvement on the lyrics engine. I mean
support for slurs/diphthongs. A tie which goes from a sillabe to the
next one. Both syllabes are said (singed) at the same note/beat.

Because there's not such thing in lilypond by the moment, i'm using an
alternate (and temporary i dream with ;)) solution, consisting of
"sil1\_sill2":

Te con -- vi -- "do\_a" cre -- er -- me  (...)

The result you can look at the attached .png

I would like an automaticed way to put a little slur, and join the
syllabes like if were one. Just like appears commonly in sheet music.

I tried using some latex, for typing the slur but... doesn't
look pretty :S) I think it would be an aprecciated improvement.

Thanks again for
developing this amazing program

Joseluis

bug in rythm font engraving

Hello,

i've just noticed that the visualization of the rythmic section has
changed badly after upgrading to 2.1.5. I searched for confirmation at
the http manual on web page, for being sure if it was my installation
or it was general, and i found the evidence also there.

Seems the stems doesn't realize that the noteheads are rythmic, and
then...

Just look at the .pngs that i attach, captures of the same code
output. But one is compiled with lilypond 2.1.2 and the another is
compiled with 2.1.5. Look at the differences. The stems are not
correctly aligned, and they are too long. The font looks bolder
also... but i suppose that it is a feature ;) isnt it?

I've got the code of manual, so it's correct. I've only added the
paper{} line. And the captures are from the postcript output augmented
10 times.

%----CODE---
% Generated automatically by: lilypond-book.py
% options are quote singleline verbatim
\include "paper16.ly"
\paper  {
  raggedright = ##t
  indent = 0.0\mm

}
\include "drumpitch-init.ly"

bug in rythm font engraving

joseluis_NO_SPAM_ <at> jazzartistas.com writes:
> Hello,
> 
> i've just noticed that the visualization of the rythmic section has
> changed badly after upgrading to 2.1.5. I searched for confirmation at
> the http manual on web page, for being sure if it was my installation
> or it was general, and i found the evidence also there.
> 
> Seems the stems doesn't realize that the noteheads are rythmic, and
> then...

I fixed this in CVS.

(The attachment points are now determined from the font-parameters,
and I made some errors in calculating those.)

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Jazz notation

The subject of what it would take to get lilypond to do jazz notation 
was brought up a while back (in Sep. 2003, I believe).  I think this is 
an important discussion that shouldn't be treated so lightly.  I have 
hardly seen a single jazz chart that isn't done in this style, and both 
Finale and Igor engraver (and probably other packages) support it.  
Check out these links for an idea of what it looks like if you are not 
familiar with it:

http://www.shermusic.com/bin/brasilified.gif
http://www.noteheads.com/igor/screenshots/shots.html (The screenshot 
under Guitar Tablature)

This is THE style to use if you are writing jazz charts.  It's just the 
thing to do.  I think that if major aspects of lilypond would need to be 
changed to support this style, then perhaps such a thing needs to be 
considered, in order for lilypond to be flexible enough to support a 
wide variety of notation standards.  These settings should be modifiable 
with simple (or complex, as the case may require) text commands rather 
than being hard-wired into the code. This would have the added advantage 
of allowing lilypond to support more choices in notation style than just 
the modern ones we're used to.

The comment was made "If you want to have a handwritten style, why not 
write it by hand?"  This is, of course, disingenuous.  There are many 
advantages in having a reproduceable machine copy of your notation that 
can be modified and re-rendered at will.  There is nothing inherently 
worse about the jazz notation style.  It merits just as high regard as 
the great work that has been done so far in lilypond.  It's just different.

Regards,

Re: Jazz notation

> modified and re-rendered at will.  There is nothing inherently worse 
> about the jazz notation style.  It merits just as high regard as the 
> great work that has been done so far in lilypond.  It's just different.
>
On top of that, it is actually quite difficult to reproduce the quality 
of a good hand-written jazz chart, which is another reason why someone 
would not want to try doing it by hand.

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Re: Jazz notation

Hi everyone

Le lun 05/01/2004 à 02:39, Carl Youngblood a écrit :
> The subject of what it would take to get lilypond to do jazz notation 
> was brought up a while back (in Sep. 2003, I believe).  I think this is 
> an important discussion that shouldn't be treated so lightly.

Some modest comments about so-called "jazz notation" :

Concerning this "problem", I don't think there is a special "jazz 
engraving". I try now to explain this point of view.
In Carl's examples, I see mainly three items which he points as "jazz
specific : chord coding, chord fonts, and music fonts.

chord coding : I never saw a single coding style. From what I know,
there is no standard on this subject, except if you consider that
"this r**l book chord coding style is the standard" .
I've seen TONS of chord coding... All are acceptable in some sense.
Developping alternative chord coding styles shouldn't be very difficult.
Comment developpers ?

chord fonts : Carl's examples  show the usage of a font which
is reminiscent of the historical "Real Books" (which are compilations of
Jazz standards, for those who don't know much about jazz).
Personnaly (but this is only personal taste), I hate it. If find
this font unreadable, and very eye tiring.
But, here, a little question : what font choice has to to with 
specificities of a music style ?
Again, adding the capability to choose the font for chord printing
should not be unreachable... But what do main developpers think about 

Jazz notation

carl <at> youngbloods.org writes:
> This is THE style to use if you are writing jazz charts.  It's just the 
> thing to do.  I think that if major aspects of lilypond would need to be 
> changed to support this style, then perhaps such a thing needs to be 
> considered,

Your writing style is a little vague, due to the use of passive
tense. I recommend you use the active form. A good example of the
active tense is: "I will change LilyPond to support this style."

A happy new year,

Han-Wen

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