Printing Hebrew/CJK etc.

  Hi again,

what do I need to do in order to print more
exotic texts than Latin1 with the most recent
code from libgnomeprint 2.8? I have some text
which contains Hebrew and some Japanese, it
displays correctly on screen, but the printout
is empty (both PS and PDF). I thought gnome-
print would embed the glyphs in the output.

Thanks for any hint,

  Robert

I'm using SuSE 9.0, having installed GNOME 2.8
into /opt/gnome28, if that matters.

Re: Printing Hebrew/CJK etc.

On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 00:23 +0200, Robert Roebling wrote:
>   Hi again,
> 
> what do I need to do in order to print more
> exotic texts than Latin1 with the most recent
> code from libgnomeprint 2.8? I have some text
> which contains Hebrew and some Japanese, it
> displays correctly on screen, but the printout
> is empty (both PS and PDF). I thought gnome-
> print would embed the glyphs in the output.
> 
> Thanks for any hint,

Are you displaying the text with bitmap fonts on the screen?
libgnomeprint doesn't support printing non-outline fonts.

Regards,
					Owen

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Problems with cups printing with 2.8..

(apologies if this is the third time you've heard me whining about
this, but I'm getting desperate)

I just finished installing 2.8 from garnome on a much-abused redhat
7.1 system.  I'd done the same for 2.6 (also from garnome). 
Everything works find, except I can't print from anything that uses
libgnomeprint (gedit, evolution, gnumeric), all of which used to work
fine under 2.6.  I'm trying to print to a CUPS print server, so I
installed libgnomecups and gnome-cups-manager, and gnome-cups-manager
sees all of the available printers just fine.  But they don't show up
in the print dialog box.  Nor can I select CUPS as a location (which,
I guess isn't terribly surprising).  I can see all of the printers
listed in /etc/printcap, but attempting to print to them produces an
"lpr:  unable to print file:  client-error-not-found" error message
and no output.  When I move the libgnomeprintlpd modules aside, I
don't get any printers, other than the PDF and generic postscript
drivers.

This is with libgnomeprint-2.8.0, libgnomeprintui-2.8.0,
libgnomecups-0.1.12, gnome-cups-manager-0.25 build against CUPS
1.1.21.

As a final twist, I don't have, and can't get, root access to the
machine in question, although the identical thing happens on a machine
I do have access to.

CUPS seems to be working fine.  lpstat lists all of the printers, and
I can lpr to my hearts content. 

Is there an easy solution to make the CUPS printers work under gnome ? 

Re: Problems with cups printing with 2.8..

On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 07:27, John Affleck wrote:
> (apologies if this is the third time you've heard me whining about
> this, but I'm getting desperate)
> 
> I just finished installing 2.8 from garnome on a much-abused redhat
> 7.1 system.  I'd done the same for 2.6 (also from garnome). 
> Everything works find, except I can't print from anything that uses
> libgnomeprint (gedit, evolution, gnumeric), all of which used to work
> fine under 2.6.  

There have been some "improvements" made to the cups system. There may
be a point in downgrading to libgnomeprint[ui] 2.6.

> I'm trying to print to a CUPS print server, so I
> installed libgnomecups and gnome-cups-manager, and gnome-cups-manager
> sees all of the available printers just fine.  But they don't show up
> in the print dialog box.  Nor can I select CUPS as a location (which,
> I guess isn't terribly surprising).  I can see all of the printers
> listed in /etc/printcap, but attempting to print to them produces an
> "lpr:  unable to print file:  client-error-not-found" error message
> and no output.  When I move the libgnomeprintlpd modules aside, I
> don't get any printers, other than the PDF and generic postscript
> drivers.

Apparently libgnomeprintcups doesn't see any printers. 	Can you print
from the command line?  Try:

lpr -Pprinter /etc/printcap    where you replace "printer" with one of
the printers mentioned in your /etc/printcap file.

Re: Problems with cups printing with 2.8..

On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 10:03:24AM -0600, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:
> Apparently libgnomeprintcups doesn't see any printers. 	Can you print
> from the command line?  Try:
> 
> lpr -Pprinter /etc/printcap    where you replace "printer" with one of
> the printers mentioned in your /etc/printcap file.
> 
> This does sound like a problem with your printing set-up though! The
> libgnomeprintlpd module simply pipes the postscript into lpr. And
> vlearly lpr is being found.

Gah.  Thanks - that was just the slap I needed - I neglectd to mention
that I actually had two versions of cups installed - the 'standard'
one without headers in /usr, and a local copy in an area accessible to
me with headers for the compilation.  I was picking my 'private' copy
of the library without any of the correct configuration.  Which is why
I could print from lpr some of the time (when it used the library and
configuration from /usr ) and not others (when it used my unconfigured
library).

Anyway, problem solved.  Thanks!

	John A.

Grand Unified Printing

Hi,

At the summit we briefly discussed the plan for merging Novell's and Red
Hat's printing work and getting a coherent whole into 2.10.  I'm sorry I
couldn't be there for the third day.

The general thought seemed to be that we should create a new CVS module.
I half-jokingly suggested calling it gup, for Grand Unified Printing,
but people seemed to like it.  However the gup is also the abbreviation
for the GNOME Usability Project, but they don't have a CVS module.  Do
we care about this?

Let's assume for now we call it gup.  On a high level, I think the
functionality we want is a merger of eggcups, hal-cups-utils, and gnome-
cups-manager's gnome-cups-add/libgnomecupsui.

Now, eggcups is really an agglomeration of two major things: print job
notification and a driver prompt.  The driver part depends on cups-
config-daemon from hal-cups-utils.  I'd like to separate the
notification from the driver prompt.

Jody brought up a while ago that gnome-cups-add is needed when we can't
autodetect printers.  The plan is to merge that into an "Add Printer" in
the print dialog, right?

So here's my tentative suggestion for module layout:

gup/
   print-notifier/
     ec-tray-icon.c ec-job-model.c ec-cups-job-monitor.c ...

Extra page comming out...

Greetings.

  I have a problem with gnome-print I cannot resolve...  When I print a single
page, the first page comming out is A1, but their is a 2nd empty page comming
out.  It is as if a FF is sent twice.  There should not be any 2nd page.

  This happens only using Gnome apps which use gnome-print.  Direct use of
cups tools such as "lp" or "kprinter" only prints out the first page; no
second empty page comming out.

  I use FC2 - Gnome 2.6.  I looked at the driver's option in
gnome-print-manager, and "Send Form-Feed (FF)" is unselected.  I am clueless.

Best regards,
Hans Deragon
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Re: Grand Unified Printing

Ping?

Re: Grand Unified Printing

On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 12:03 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> The general thought seemed to be that we should create a new CVS module.
> I half-jokingly suggested calling it gup, for Grand Unified Printing,
> but people seemed to like it.  However the gup is also the abbreviation
> for the GNOME Usability Project, but they don't have a CVS module.  Do
> we care about this?

I think the real question is 'do you care about usability?'  And I
guess a secondary question is 'Is the Usability Team going to use the
gup module for anything?'  The answer to that one is most likely a no,
we have space under the /gnome.org/projects area and I can't imagine us
needing more.

Cheers,
~ Bryan

Re: Extra page comming out...

On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 19:09, Hans Deragon wrote:
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> 
> Greetings.
> 
> 
>   I have a problem with gnome-print I cannot resolve...  When I print a single
> page, the first page comming out is A1, but their is a 2nd empty page comming
> out.  It is as if a FF is sent twice.  There should not be any 2nd page.
> 
>   This happens only using Gnome apps which use gnome-print.  Direct use of
> cups tools such as "lp" or "kprinter" only prints out the first page; no
> second empty page comming out.
> 
>   I use FC2 - Gnome 2.6.  I looked at the driver's option in
> gnome-print-manager, and "Send Form-Feed (FF)" is unselected.  I am clueless.

This sounds to me like you may have duplex switched on. I have
encountered some printer drivers for non-duplex printers that as the
result of asking for duplex printing print the empty reverse page as
another page.  If you have a 2 page document, how many pages are
printed?

Andreas
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