GNOME community marketing discussion and planning

Lucas Rocha | 1 Jun 2009 15:35

Re: Next milestone - June 15 (Content structure, final design, contenttypes)

Hey Paul,

2009/5/31 Paul Cutler <pcutler <at> foresightlinux.org>:
> Good morning Marketing team!
>
> I wanted to take a few minutes and follow up on Lucas' email, and talk about
> next steps, and what's due for the next milestone on June 15th.

Nice! Some comments/suggestions inline.

> From Lucas' email:
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> Milestone goals:
>>
>>
>>  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/TwoPointTwentyseven#head-a1b48fa0eb8248143bf402dea04f4a0b72e43050
>>
>> Suggestions:
>>
>> - Content team: cleanup your status page to have only 2.28 stuff and
>> use links to previous discussion/decisions on wgo content. This will
>> probably make it less confusing for new contributors.
>> - Content team: maybe you should work on the content in the wiki until
>> we have the test website in GNOME servers to avoid infrastructure
>> distractions. For this milestone you probably won't be doing to much
>> content writing anyway. Just a note for the future.
>

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Stormy Peters | 1 Jun 2009 18:24

Re: Friends of GNOME data

The new data is on the wiki. May was an awesome month!

Behdad is blogging about it this week.

Stormy

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Stormy Peters <stormy <at> gnome.org> wrote:

I just realized that my Friends of GNOME update from last month never went through to the list.

So I put this month's update in the wiki and on the Foundation blog.

I created a Friends of GNOME wiki page to track tasks and goals:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME

Here's the raw data from Friends of GNOME donations in a spreadsheet:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=donations-metrics.ods

I posted a couple of the graphs on the Foundation blog:
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/05/04/friends-of-gnome-update/

Stormy

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Michael Hasselmann | 1 Jun 2009 19:27

GNOME in the press

Hi,

whom would I contact when I found GNOME-related stuff in newspapers or
magazines? Surely we keep a list of articles somewhere, even for the
non-English stuff?

regards,
Michael

PS: Just in case this list *is* already the right place (all links in
Germany, sorry):
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,626992,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,627341,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,627391,00.html

The person behind these articles is Bettina Lechner
( http://www.newhouse.at/ ), and she describes in detail how the GIMP
can be used for digital photo enhancement (several more publications on
her website it seems). Perhaps someone could make an e-mail interview
with such a professional GIMP user?

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Andre Klapper | 1 Jun 2009 19:52

Re: GNOME in the press

Hi,

Am Montag, den 01.06.2009, 19:27 +0200 schrieb Michael Hasselmann:
> whom would I contact when I found GNOME-related stuff in newspapers or
> magazines? Surely we keep a list of articles somewhere, even for the
> non-English stuff?

The only thing I found in the wiki is
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeFr/DansLaPresse for French articles.
If such a list was set up I wonder whether to exclude technical/computer
magazines - otherwise it would get crowded.
Dave tagged some articles about major releases at
http://delicious.com/tag/gnome224 (and /gnome222, ...).

andre

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Michael Hasselmann | 1 Jun 2009 19:56

Re: GNOME in the press

Hi,

sure - make it "GOME in the *mainstream* press" then =p

regards,
Michael

Am Montag, den 01.06.2009, 19:52 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper:
> The only thing I found in the wiki is
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeFr/DansLaPresse for French articles.
> If such a list was set up I wonder whether to exclude technical/computer
> magazines - otherwise it would get crowded.
> Dave tagged some articles about major releases at
> http://delicious.com/tag/gnome224 (and /gnome222, ...).
> 
> andre

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Dave Neary | 1 Jun 2009 23:15

Re: GNOME in the press

Hi Michael,

Michael Hasselmann wrote:
> whom would I contact when I found GNOME-related stuff in newspapers or
> magazines? Surely we keep a list of articles somewhere, even for the
> non-English stuff?

The wiki is the best place for stuff like this. Pages tagged in 
del.icio.us with "gnome press" also get syndicated to the GNOME News 
feed. The "gnome" del.icio.us feed is also pretty interesting and 
varied, but high volume.

The difficulty as always with the wiki is where to put the information 
so that it is both useful for readers and easy to organise for editors.

I also like "articles in the press" including technical articles.
Cheers,
Dave.

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Stormy Peters | 2 Jun 2009 13:50

Re: Seeking GNOME marketing info

Here's the mail where Dave Neary did a back of the napkin calculation about how many users we have:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2008-September/msg00086.html

Stormz

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Claus Schwarm <clschwarm <at> googlemail.com> wrote:

Sort of.

I collect data for some time and wanted to start a wiki page since Luis
complained about a missing marketing plan. Here it is:

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketAnalysis

Not quite finished yet. Please add additional data.

Best regards,
Claus

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 16:25 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
> One thing that seems to be missing from the current GNOME marketing
> materials is some basic information about how many people currently
> use GNOME, and why people would want to use it. It seems that it would
> be good to have a resource, perhaps on the GNOME Marketing Wiki[1] that
> highlights this sort of generally useful information.
>
> Has the GNOME community done studies in the past to determine how
> large the GNOME desktop market share is? Any pointers would be
> appreciated. Are there any presentations or useful data points floating
> around that should be archived more visibly? In general, any pointers
> to information that highlights why GNOME is a competitive desktop would
> be good to collect somewhere.
>
> It seems it would be good to have a page that highlights achivements
> by the GNOME community. For example, information about awards such as
> recently being voted the "Favorite Desktop Environment by Linux Journal,
> receiving the 2002 Hellen Keller award [2], the Trophees du Libre" award
> [3], and the Lutece d'Or Award [4] seems the sort of thing that would
> be good to flesh out such a page.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/
> [2] http://gnomedesktop.org/node/648
> [3] http://osdir.com/ml/mozilla.accessibility/2003-06/msg00000.html
> [4] http://blogs.sun.com/wwalker/entry/gopa_wins_an_award
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Dave Neary | 2 Jun 2009 14:53

Re: Seeking GNOME marketing info

Hi,

Stormy Peters wrote:
> Here's the mail where Dave Neary did a back of the napkin calculation 
> about how many users we have:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2008-September/msg00086.html

I'd forgotten about that :)

Thanks Stormz (in Germany by any chance?)

I also did a rough back of the envelope unscientific estimate of how 
many GNOME developers there are for someone a while back, which I shall 
reproduce here for posterity:

On gnomefiles.org, there are:
  	 2139 applications
       1589411 downloads

On freshmeat.net, there used to be:

1026 GNOME applications:
http://freshmeat.net/browse/231/

1728 GTK+ applications:
http://freshmeat.net/browse/870/

(these links apparently don't work any more :( )

Debian popcon gives 2603 people who have libgtk-2.0-doc installed
Ubuntu popcon gives 9141 people with it installed.

(Updates for today: Debian gives 3055, Ubuntu gives 22635 people with 
libgtk2.0-doc installed)

(It's a good bet that people installing the API documentation are at
least interested in developing with GTK+).

Cheers,
Dave.

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Paul Cutler | 2 Jun 2009 17:59

Re: Promoting the "Support GNOME" badges

Behdad - did you still want to blog the Friends of GNOME update? I think Stormy mentioned she posted some data as well.

Thanks.

Paul

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail <at> home.se> wrote:

I'll grab June 15th!
This means:

May 18th - Stormy
May 25th - Lucas

Jun 1st - Behdad
Jun 8th - Paul
Jun 15th- Andreas
Jun 22nd -

- Andreas

Paul Cutler wrote:

I'll take June 1st or 8th, whatever's next.

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Behdad Esfahbod <behdad <at> behdad.org <mailto:behdad <at> behdad.org>> wrote:

/me likes carrots!

On 05/21/2009 09:17 AM, Stormy Peters wrote:

Thanks!

Here's a carrot to whoever wants week June 1st ... I'll put
together the
data from May and it should be really good. You can include a
graph or
two in your post ...

Stormy

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Lucas Rocha <lucasr <at> gnome.org
<mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org>

<mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org <mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org>>> wrote:

Heya,

2009/5/18 Stormy Peters <stormy <at> gnome.org

<mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org> <mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org

<mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org>>>:

> We should make a calendar and have people regularly blog
about
Friends of
> GNOME. The week of:
> May 18th - Stormy
> May 25th - Lucas
> Jun 1st -
> Jun 8th -
> Jun 15th-
> Jun 22nd

I already have a draft

Cheers!

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Behdad Esfahbod | 2 Jun 2009 21:02

Re: Promoting the "Support GNOME" badges

Yes, I'm working on it.

On 06/02/2009 11:59 AM, Paul Cutler wrote:
> Behdad - did you still want to blog the Friends of GNOME update?  I
> think Stormy mentioned she posted some data as well.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Paul
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail <at> home.se
> <mailto:nisses.mail <at> home.se>> wrote:
>
>     I'll grab June 15th!
>     This means:
>
>
>     May 18th - Stormy
>     May 25th - Lucas
>     Jun 1st - Behdad
>     Jun 8th - Paul
>     Jun 15th- Andreas
>     Jun 22nd -
>
>     - Andreas
>
>     Paul Cutler wrote:
>
>         I'll take June 1st or 8th, whatever's next.
>
>         On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Behdad Esfahbod
>         <behdad <at> behdad.org <mailto:behdad <at> behdad.org>
>         <mailto:behdad <at> behdad.org <mailto:behdad <at> behdad.org>>> wrote:
>
>             /me likes carrots!
>
>
>             On 05/21/2009 09:17 AM, Stormy Peters wrote:
>
>                 Thanks!
>
>                 Here's a carrot to whoever wants week June 1st ... I'll put
>                 together the
>                 data from May and it should be really good. You can
>         include a
>                 graph or
>                 two in your post ...
>
>                 Stormy
>
>                 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Lucas Rocha
>         <lucasr <at> gnome.org <mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org>
>         <mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org <mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org>>
>         <mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org <mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org>
>         <mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org <mailto:lucasr <at> gnome.org>>>> wrote:
>
>                    Heya,
>
>                    2009/5/18 Stormy Peters <stormy <at> gnome.org
>         <mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org>
>         <mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org <mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org>>
>         <mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org <mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org>
>
>         <mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org <mailto:stormy <at> gnome.org>>>>:
>
>          > We should make a calendar and have people regularly blog
>                 about
>                    Friends of
>          > GNOME. The week of:
>          > May 18th - Stormy
>          > May 25th - Lucas
>          > Jun 1st -
>          > Jun 8th -
>          > Jun 15th-
>          > Jun 22nd
>
>                    I already have a draft  
>
>                    Cheers!
>
>                    --lucasr
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