Claus Schwarm | 2 Sep 2008 17:18
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Hi,

according to a post by Eugenia Loli-Queru, GNOME files was hacked and
she has no intentions to re-activate the site.[1]

It currently re-directs to osnews.com.

It would be nice if someone could remove the paragraph 'Get more
software' on the GNOME community page [2] and maybe the link on
the software map page as well [3].

Cheers,
Claus

[1] http://osnews.com/staff/permalink.php/2897/goodbye_gnomefiles.html
[2] http://www.gnome.org/community/
[3] http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/
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Andreas Nilsson | 4 Sep 2008 00:13
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Re: Revamping Friends of GNOME: help with web page text

Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> Stormy Peters wrote:
>> Thoughts? Anyone willing to help with the web page?
>>   
> Kalle Persson and myself want to look into the design of this during 
> the weekend.
Hi!
Here are the designs Kalle and I did:
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page1.png
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page2.png
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page3.png

We were uncertain about some details, such as if it was only the "Adopt 
a Hacker" level that was monthly, plus some other stuff that I can't 
remember right now (do you Kalle?).
As the hippies we are, we also took the liberty to not follow the 
specification specifically. ;)
Hrm, no, seriously, we mostly rearranged some stuff and we hope it came 
out for the better.

There is also a svg with all the elements in it here if anyone wants to 
modify it: 
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/friends-of-gnome-design.svg

We can fix the html and css for this unless someone else eagerly wants 
to do it (I recall some e-mail about this, but I can't seem to find it 
now). Not sure what's easiest.
- Andreas
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Stormy Peters | 4 Sep 2008 00:41
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Re: Revamping Friends of GNOME: help with web page text

You guys are awesome! Thanks, Andreas and Kalle.

I like the design and I like the changes you made.

Seeing in a nice design like this, I see changes I want to make in the text - what's the best way to proceed? Should I keep a separate text doc that we paste in later? 

Stormy

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail <at> home.se> wrote:
Andreas Nilsson wrote:
Stormy Peters wrote:
Thoughts? Anyone willing to help with the web page?
 
Kalle Persson and myself want to look into the design of this during the weekend.
Hi!
Here are the designs Kalle and I did:
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page1.png
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page2.png
http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page3.png

We were uncertain about some details, such as if it was only the "Adopt a Hacker" level that was monthly, plus some other stuff that I can't remember right now (do you Kalle?).
As the hippies we are, we also took the liberty to not follow the specification specifically. ;)
Hrm, no, seriously, we mostly rearranged some stuff and we hope it came out for the better.

There is also a svg with all the elements in it here if anyone wants to modify it: http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/friends-of-gnome-design.svg

We can fix the html and css for this unless someone else eagerly wants to do it (I recall some e-mail about this, but I can't seem to find it now). Not sure what's easiest.
- Andreas

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Andreas Nilsson | 4 Sep 2008 01:01
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Re: Revamping Friends of GNOME: help with web page text

Stormy Peters wrote:
> You guys are awesome! Thanks, Andreas and Kalle.
>
> I like the design and I like the changes you made.
Thanks, glad you like it!
>
> Seeing in a nice design like this, I see changes I want to make in the 
> text - what's the best way to proceed? Should I keep a separate text 
> doc that we paste in later?
Yeah, I think that will be the easiest. We can put it in once the text 
is corrected.
- Andreas
>
> Stormy
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail <at> home.se 
> <mailto:nisses.mail <at> home.se>> wrote:
>
>     Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>
>         Stormy Peters wrote:
>
>             Thoughts? Anyone willing to help with the web page?
>              
>
>         Kalle Persson and myself want to look into the design of this
>         during the weekend.
>
>     Hi!
>     Here are the designs Kalle and I did:
>     http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page1.png
>     http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page2.png
>     http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page3.png
>
>     We were uncertain about some details, such as if it was only the
>     "Adopt a Hacker" level that was monthly, plus some other stuff
>     that I can't remember right now (do you Kalle?).
>     As the hippies we are, we also took the liberty to not follow the
>     specification specifically. ;)
>     Hrm, no, seriously, we mostly rearranged some stuff and we hope it
>     came out for the better.
>
>     There is also a svg with all the elements in it here if anyone
>     wants to modify it:
>     http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/friends-of-gnome-design.svg
>
>     We can fix the html and css for this unless someone else eagerly
>     wants to do it (I recall some e-mail about this, but I can't seem
>     to find it now). Not sure what's easiest.
>     - Andreas
>
>

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Stormy Peters | 4 Sep 2008 20:59
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Does somebody on the list have the right access to do this? And the time to do this?

Stormy

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Claus Schwarm <c.schwarm <at> gmx.net> wrote:
Hi,

according to a post by Eugenia Loli-Queru, GNOME files was hacked and
she has no intentions to re-activate the site.[1]

It currently re-directs to osnews.com.

It would be nice if someone could remove the paragraph 'Get more
software' on the GNOME community page [2] and maybe the link on
the software map page as well [3].


Cheers,
Claus


[1] http://osnews.com/staff/permalink.php/2897/goodbye_gnomefiles.html
[2] http://www.gnome.org/community/
[3] http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/
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Brian Cameron | 4 Sep 2008 21:30
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Re: Revamping Friends of GNOME: help with web page text


Andreas:

I really like the photo of the one-laptop-per-child program and
the text.  I don't know how much room you have in the caption, but
it would be better to highlight the following:

- GNOME is free, which makes it the perfect desktop choice for
   humanitarian efforts, such as the one-laptop-per-child program
   which require an affordable desktop.
- The fact that GNOME is accessible, and also provides an affordable
   desktop for people with a wide range of disabilities, and is
   Section 508 compliant.
- Would also be good to have a link to the OLPC website, so people
   can read more.  I'd just make the OLPC reference a link.
- The fact that GNOME is translated into 3rd world languages, and
   that supporting GNOME supports technologies that help to bring the 3rd
   world better access to the information age.

I think this should be highlighted in the "A Free And Open Source
Desktop For Everyone" section rather than just being a caption for
an image, though.  I think the above facts are important to highlight
since it makes the humanitarian angle of wanting donations more clear
and should be highlighted in a very visible way on the front page.

On page 3 I would say that it "Supports accessibility for users with
limited mobility, paralysis, blindness, vision problems such as
color blindness or low vision.  It is a Section 508 compliant desktop."
rather than just saying "Supports accessibility"

I would say "into many of the world's 3rd languages" rather than listing
a number.  You might also highlight that GNU-Linux based operating
systems support the widest range of 3rd world languages available.

A stupid grammar issue you can ignore if you want...

You say "During 2008 the GNOME Foundation was able to help do lots of
great things by:" Then each paragraph beings with past-tense words like
"participated", "ran", or "held".  The first word should be a word that
makes sense if you put the word "by" in front of it, so the first word
of each paragraph should be "participating", "running", "holding",
"planning".  This seems like it would read better to me.

Or you could just update the header to say "During 2008 the
GNOME Foundation was able to help do lots of great things by
doing the following:"  With this type of header, the first words
of the paragraphs below would be correct as they are.  Though
"Planned the first GNOME event in Asia" would be more consistent
with the other paragraphs if you were to go this route.

Brian

> Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> Stormy Peters wrote:
>>> Thoughts? Anyone willing to help with the web page?
>>>   
>> Kalle Persson and myself want to look into the design of this during 
>> the weekend.
> Hi!
> Here are the designs Kalle and I did:
> http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page1.png
> http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page2.png
> http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page3.png
> 
> We were uncertain about some details, such as if it was only the "Adopt 
> a Hacker" level that was monthly, plus some other stuff that I can't 
> remember right now (do you Kalle?).
> As the hippies we are, we also took the liberty to not follow the 
> specification specifically. ;)
> Hrm, no, seriously, we mostly rearranged some stuff and we hope it came 
> out for the better.
> 
> There is also a svg with all the elements in it here if anyone wants to 
> modify it: 
> http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/friends-of-gnome-design.svg 
> 
> 
> We can fix the html and css for this unless someone else eagerly wants 
> to do it (I recall some e-mail about this, but I can't seem to find it 
> now). Not sure what's easiest.
> - Andreas
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Diego Escalante Urrelo | 4 Sep 2008 21:38
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Hi Stormy

On 9/4/08, Stormy Peters <stormy <at> gnome.org> wrote:
> Does somebody on the list have the right access to do this? And the time to
> do this?
>

I just did[0], I disabled /softwaremap/ and commented the reference to
Get More Software in /community/.

For your future reference, all gnome webs are maintained in SVN,
usually named "project"-web or likely, for example planet-web or
gnomebr-web, etc. You only need an svn account to modify them. Thanks
for the heads up :-).

In other light of this same topic, shall we worry about the absence of
a site like gnomefiles.org?

greetings

0 - http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnomeweb-wml?view=revision&revision=6291
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Stormy Peters | 4 Sep 2008 21:45
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What was gnomefiles? It sounds like a list of files found in GNOME but I don't want to assume. :)

Stormy

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Diego Escalante Urrelo <diegoe <at> gnome.org> wrote:
Hi Stormy

On 9/4/08, Stormy Peters <stormy <at> gnome.org> wrote:
> Does somebody on the list have the right access to do this? And the time to
> do this?
>

I just did[0], I disabled /softwaremap/ and commented the reference to
Get More Software in /community/.

For your future reference, all gnome webs are maintained in SVN,
usually named "project"-web or likely, for example planet-web or
gnomebr-web, etc. You only need an svn account to modify them. Thanks
for the heads up :-).

In other light of this same topic, shall we worry about the absence of
a site like gnomefiles.org?

greetings

0 - http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnomeweb-wml?view=revision&revision=6291

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Diego Escalante Urrelo | 4 Sep 2008 21:52
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Re: Revamping Friends of GNOME: help with web page text

On 9/4/08, Brian Cameron <Brian.Cameron <at> sun.com> wrote:
>
>  Andreas:
>
>  I really like the photo of the one-laptop-per-child program and
>  the text.  I don't know how much room you have in the caption, but
>  it would be better to highlight the following:
>
>  - GNOME is free, which makes it the perfect desktop choice for
>   humanitarian efforts, such as the one-laptop-per-child program
>   which require an affordable desktop.

I confess I haven't read carefully every word in the text, but as I
read your email I thought that a nice thing to add would be something
like:
  "Because GNOME is free, every contribution put into GNOME is
available to everyone"

Ok, not the best wording, but I got the idea from a quick flashback to
those IBM videos of "linux kid" where the narrator says "what he
learns we all learn, what he knows we all benefit from". I think it's
a nice idea we might want to take.

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Luis Villa | 4 Sep 2008 22:01

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On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Stormy Peters <stormy <at> gnome.org> wrote:
> What was gnomefiles? It sounds like a list of files found in GNOME but I
> don't want to assume. :)

closer to addons.mozilla.org- information (including updates, news,
etc.) about applications available for GNOME. One of those multiplier
things that creates a lot of value by giving everyone who does a GNOME
program a place to shout from.

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