Multiple monitors: stuck in the last century?

Folks,

Support for multiple monitors is an essential feature of any desktop
environment that aspires to the name "modern". I thought it a shame that
the feature was missing in Gnome 2. With much dismay, after trying out a
Fedora 15 pre-release, I discovered that Gnome 3 is still missing a
functioning multiple monitor support!

There can be no excuse for this. Multiple monitors have been supported
in X through RANDR for years. Thanks to the wonderful work by ATI and
NVidia we can now watch a 4K movie on a 12 screen wall, or display an
OpenGL animation at 20 MPixels. All the difficult parts have been
implemented. What remains is to make windows maximize properly, panels
span the entire width of the desktop and the background image scale as
it should (plus a few similarly trivial changes). Is this too much to
ask?

I hope somebody is working on this feature. Users have been waiting for
it far too long. I think we deserve better.

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[GNOME3] Gain vertical space

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Re: [GNOME3] Gain vertical space

Hi!

It's all css and easily changeable. There is a blog post here that goes 
through some of the customization (which works without installing any 
extension):
http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html

namely this part:

"As stated previously, the default GNOME Shell theme is Adwaita. You can 
modify this theme by editing 
/usr/share/themes/Adwaita/metacity-1/metacity-theme-3.xml. One of the 
more interesting sections of this configuration file is:

<frame_geometry name="normal" title_scale="medium" rounded_top_left="4" 
rounded_top_right="4">
         <distance name="left_width" value="1" />
         <distance name="right_width" value="1" />
         <distance name="bottom_height" value="2" />
         <distance name="left_titlebar_edge" value="0"/>
         <distance name="right_titlebar_edge" value="0"/>
         <distance name="title_vertical_pad" value="13"/>
         <border name="title_border" left="10" right="10" top="1" 
bottom="1"/>
         <border name="button_border" left="0" right="0" top="1" 
bottom="3"/>
         <aspect_ratio name="button" value="1"/>
</frame_geometry>
"

You'll need to find the another section for the maximized 
"title_vertical_pad" (maybe it's lower in the article, maybe not).

Hope that helps.

Fred

On 05/04/2011 10:56 AM, Jérôme Prudent wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> With gnome2 I used to have only a single bar on left side of my screen.
> Since I spend my time browsing website, this offered me a maximum of
> vertical space.
>
> Yesterday I switched on Gnome3 and tried to drag the top bar on left
> side but apparently it's fixed. To tell you the truth, I quite like this
> top bar (it's thin enough, useful, and elegant). What I do not like is
> the windows title. For a vertical space maniac, windows title are too
> wide and the close button (that I never use because I prefer Alt+F4) is
> too big. I also think that window title have no use now (I gnome 2 I
> sometimes used the minimize button but there is no such a button any
> more). So, How can I remove this useless window title that occupies my
> precious vertical space?
>
> Thanks.
>
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On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:53:07AM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> It's all css and easily changeable. There is a blog post here that
> goes through some of the customization (which works without
> installing any extension):
> http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html
> 
> namely this part:
> 
> "As stated previously, the default GNOME Shell theme is Adwaita. You
> can modify this theme by editing
> /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/metacity-1/metacity-theme-3.xml. One of
> the more interesting sections of this configuration file is:

You are suggesting to modify a system file, is there any way to do
this per-user instead?

/M

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On 05/04/2011 12:55 PM, Magnus Therning wrote:
> On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:53:07AM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> It's all css and easily changeable. There is a blog post here that
>> goes through some of the customization (which works without
>> installing any extension):
>> http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html
>>
>> namely this part:
>>
>> "As stated previously, the default GNOME Shell theme is Adwaita. You
>> can modify this theme by editing
>> /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/metacity-1/metacity-theme-3.xml. One of
>> the more interesting sections of this configuration file is:
>
> You are suggesting to modify a system file, is there any way to do
> this per-user instead?
>
> /M

I am not suggesting to modify a system file, I'm quoting a small section 
out of a long blog post (and therefore out of context).

I am just pointing out where the info is available, sorry for not spoon 
feeding, but it's not my thing.

The proper way to do that would be to create a new theme based on the 
default one and use that new theme to make the changes. I think (though 
I do not know) that themes are per user.

Fred

Re: [GNOME3] Gain vertical space

On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:56:06AM +0700, Jérôme Prudent wrote:
> Yesterday I switched on Gnome3 and tried to drag the top bar on left side
> but apparently it's fixed. To tell you the truth, I quite like this top bar
> (it's thin enough, useful, and elegant). What I do not like is the windows
> title. For a vertical space maniac, windows title are too wide and the close
> button (that I never use because I prefer Alt+F4) is too big. I also think
> that window title have no use now (I gnome 2 I sometimes used the minimize
> button but there is no such a button any more). So, How can I remove this
> useless window title that occupies my precious vertical space?

From what I've read this will eventually be fixed. Some vertical space
usage is a bug (forgot if it was the title bar or other parts). Further,
there is work going on to remove menu bars and so on.

So it is not perfect at the moment, but eventually it will be :P

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Re: [GNOME3] Gain vertical space

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 06:25, Frederic Muller <fredm <at> gnome.org> wrote:
> On 05/04/2011 12:55 PM, Magnus Therning wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:53:07AM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> It's all css and easily changeable. There is a blog post here that
>>> goes through some of the customization (which works without
>>> installing any extension):
>>> http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html
>>>
>>> namely this part:
>>>
>>> "As stated previously, the default GNOME Shell theme is Adwaita. You
>>> can modify this theme by editing
>>> /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/metacity-1/metacity-theme-3.xml. One of
>>> the more interesting sections of this configuration file is:
>>
>> You are suggesting to modify a system file, is there any way to do
>> this per-user instead?
>>
>> /M
>
>
> I am not suggesting to modify a system file, I'm quoting a small section out
> of a long blog post (and therefore out of context).
>
> I am just pointing out where the info is available, sorry for not spoon
> feeding, but it's not my thing.

I'm far from asking you to spoon feed me.  I know nothing about
Gnome3, I've only recently started using it, and so far I've found the
documentation sorely lacking in areas related to configuration and
personalisation.  Since you know more than I do, and you provided the
link to the blog post I thought it reasonable to also ask you if
there's a resource available that explains how to do this sort of
personalisation on a per-user basis.

> The proper way to do that would be to create a new theme based on the
> default one and use that new theme to make the changes. I think (though I do
> not know) that themes are per user.

Thank you, that paragraph nicely sums up what I asked for.  Seriously,
I could have done without your attitude in the two previous
paragraphs.

/M

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