Tom Browder | 4 Mar 2009 00:18
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Missing Font Glyphs

I've successfuly built and use Gnumeric 1.9.4 on an x86 running Fedora 7.

I have attempted to do the same thing on an x86_64 running Centos 5.2,
but the glyphs don;t show and I get the following messages upon
startup:

I've searched this list's archives and found no help.  I've done a
general google search and get lots of hits where the same problem is
mentioned, but I've found only one response and that was to copy fonts
from one host to another which seems like a last-resort fix.  I think
I may be missing some prerequisite but nothing is apparent to me.

I built several packages as prerequisites for Gnumeric:

libgsf-1.14.11
goffice-0.7.3
glib-2.19.8
gtk+-2.15.4
pango-1.23.0
cairo-1.8.6
pixman-0.14.0
tiff-3.8.2

plus gnumeric-1.9.4 itself, but ./configure didn't report anything
missing that seemed related to fonts.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

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chad | 4 Mar 2009 13:05
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fedora 10 live cd

Hi i'm totally blind and i tried the fedora 10 live cd but having problems.
I set up orca and it said accessability for gnome has just been enabled you need to log out and log in for the change to take effect.
I pressed y for yes and i'm stuck can't log back in.
Where does it bring you and is the password linux on the live cd?
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Shaun McCance | 4 Mar 2009 16:18
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Re: fedora 10 live cd

On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 07:05 -0500, chad wrote:
> Hi i'm totally blind and i tried the fedora 10 live cd but having
> problems.
> I set up orca and it said accessability for gnome has just been
> enabled you need to log out and log in for the change to take effect.
> I pressed y for yes and i'm stuck can't log back in.
> Where does it bring you and is the password linux on the live cd?

Hi Chad,

You'll probably have better luck asking on gnome-accessibility-list.
I've CC'd that list with your question.

Accessibility folks, please CC Chad on responses.

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Willie Walker | 4 Mar 2009 16:24
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Re: fedora 10 live cd

Hi Chad:

You might need to press "Return" to make the logout happen.  It sounds 
like what might be happening is that a logout dialog is appearing and 
it's inaccessible because accessibility has not been enabled for the 
desktop to happen.  Pressing "Return" should activate the "OK" button of 
this dialog.

When all else fails, you can give the desktop the 3 finger salute: 
Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.  This will kill the X server and take you back to 
the login screen.

Will

Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 07:05 -0500, chad wrote:
>   
>> Hi i'm totally blind and i tried the fedora 10 live cd but having
>> problems.
>> I set up orca and it said accessability for gnome has just been
>> enabled you need to log out and log in for the change to take effect.
>> I pressed y for yes and i'm stuck can't log back in.
>> Where does it bring you and is the password linux on the live cd?
>>     
>
> Hi Chad,
>
> You'll probably have better luck asking on gnome-accessibility-list.
> I've CC'd that list with your question.
>
> Accessibility folks, please CC Chad on responses.
>
> --
> Shaun
>
>
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> gnome-accessibility-list <at> gnome.org
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>   
Janina Sajka | 4 Mar 2009 16:42

Re: fedora 10 live cd

Chad:

You're actually most of the way there.

You need to start Orca by hand, by issuing the command 'orca' . Here's
what to do:

1.)	After you say 'y' to restart Gnome, waith a long time for the
automated login to happen and the desktop to load. You'll not get audio
feedback during this process, unfortunately.

2.)	Press Alt+F2 to bring up the 'run command' dialog. You should
hear the cd rom get accessed as this program will load from your cd rom.
You can further confirm that it's loaded by pressing backspace. If, and
only if, you hear your computer beep when you press backspace, go on to
...

3.)	Type the word orca and press --enter-- .

hth

Janina

Shaun McCance writes:
> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 07:05 -0500, chad wrote:
> > Hi i'm totally blind and i tried the fedora 10 live cd but having
> > problems.
> > I set up orca and it said accessability for gnome has just been
> > enabled you need to log out and log in for the change to take effect.
> > I pressed y for yes and i'm stuck can't log back in.
> > Where does it bring you and is the password linux on the live cd?
> 
> Hi Chad,
> 
> You'll probably have better luck asking on gnome-accessibility-list.
> I've CC'd that list with your question.
> 
> Accessibility folks, please CC Chad on responses.
> 
> --
> Shaun
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> gnome-accessibility-list <at> gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list

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Janina Sajka | 4 Mar 2009 16:53

Re: fedora 10 live cd

Hi Will and All:

Let me ask this here before I take this issue to the Fedora Live CD
list, where I'm also subscribed ...

Booting the Fedora Live CD, one can launch orca from an Alt+F2 dialog,
but this is the orca setup that requires gnome restart. My experience
with it is that it talks as one would expect--if it talks, a question of
audio driver support, I suppose.

However, after gnome restarts, the user must again issue Alt+F2 and
restart orca by hand. My experience is that, if the setup process works,
one can successfully run the Fedora Live image with orca. But it seems
unfortunate to have to reissue the Alt+F2 command. Shouldn't orca simply
start on gnome restart? Is this a Fedora bug? Or a GNOME bug?

I'm particularly interested as SpeakupModified.Org is looking at
enhancing the Fedora Live image expressly for Orca mediated Fedora
installations.

Janina

Willie Walker writes:
> Hi Chad:
>
> You might need to press "Return" to make the logout happen.  It sounds  
> like what might be happening is that a logout dialog is appearing and  
> it's inaccessible because accessibility has not been enabled for the  
> desktop to happen.  Pressing "Return" should activate the "OK" button of  
> this dialog.
>
> When all else fails, you can give the desktop the 3 finger salute:  
> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.  This will kill the X server and take you back to  
> the login screen.
>
> Will
>
> Shaun McCance wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 07:05 -0500, chad wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi i'm totally blind and i tried the fedora 10 live cd but having
>>> problems.
>>> I set up orca and it said accessability for gnome has just been
>>> enabled you need to log out and log in for the change to take effect.
>>> I pressed y for yes and i'm stuck can't log back in.
>>> Where does it bring you and is the password linux on the live cd?
>>>     
>>
>> Hi Chad,
>>
>> You'll probably have better luck asking on gnome-accessibility-list.
>> I've CC'd that list with your question.
>>
>> Accessibility folks, please CC Chad on responses.
>>
>> --
>> Shaun
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> gnome-accessibility-list mailing list
>> gnome-accessibility-list <at> gnome.org
>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
>>   
>
> _______________________________________________
> gnome-accessibility-list mailing list
> gnome-accessibility-list <at> gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list

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Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada
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Willie Walker | 4 Mar 2009 16:57
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Re: fedora 10 live cd

Hi Janina:

Two longish comments...  :-)

1) The optimal situation is that one would not have to go through the 
silly "enable accessibility" process.  Instead, it would be ideal if 
accessibility were enabled by default.  We ain't there yet, though, so 
one has to go through this awkward process.

2) Orca has a feature that allows you to set it up to start 
automatically on login.  This is available as the "Start Orca when you 
login" checkbox in the preferences GUI, and we've recently added a 
"Automatically start orca when you log in?" question to the text based 
setup.  We keep the autostart off by default, however, because people 
have reported issues with how accessibility has been integrated into 
some operating system distributions.

Hope this helps,

Will

Janina Sajka wrote:
> Hi Will and All:
> 
> Let me ask this here before I take this issue to the Fedora Live CD
> list, where I'm also subscribed ...
> 
> Booting the Fedora Live CD, one can launch orca from an Alt+F2 dialog,
> but this is the orca setup that requires gnome restart. My experience
> with it is that it talks as one would expect--if it talks, a question of
> audio driver support, I suppose.
> 
> However, after gnome restarts, the user must again issue Alt+F2 and
> restart orca by hand. My experience is that, if the setup process works,
> one can successfully run the Fedora Live image with orca. But it seems
> unfortunate to have to reissue the Alt+F2 command. Shouldn't orca simply
> start on gnome restart? Is this a Fedora bug? Or a GNOME bug?
> 
> I'm particularly interested as SpeakupModified.Org is looking at
> enhancing the Fedora Live image expressly for Orca mediated Fedora
> installations.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Willie Walker writes:
>> Hi Chad:
>>
>> You might need to press "Return" to make the logout happen.  It sounds  
>> like what might be happening is that a logout dialog is appearing and  
>> it's inaccessible because accessibility has not been enabled for the  
>> desktop to happen.  Pressing "Return" should activate the "OK" button of  
>> this dialog.
>>
>> When all else fails, you can give the desktop the 3 finger salute:  
>> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.  This will kill the X server and take you back to  
>> the login screen.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> Shaun McCance wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 07:05 -0500, chad wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Hi i'm totally blind and i tried the fedora 10 live cd but having
>>>> problems.
>>>> I set up orca and it said accessability for gnome has just been
>>>> enabled you need to log out and log in for the change to take effect.
>>>> I pressed y for yes and i'm stuck can't log back in.
>>>> Where does it bring you and is the password linux on the live cd?
>>>>     
>>> Hi Chad,
>>>
>>> You'll probably have better luck asking on gnome-accessibility-list.
>>> I've CC'd that list with your question.
>>>
>>> Accessibility folks, please CC Chad on responses.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shaun
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> gnome-accessibility-list mailing list
>>> gnome-accessibility-list <at> gnome.org
>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
>>>   
>> _______________________________________________
>> gnome-accessibility-list mailing list
>> gnome-accessibility-list <at> gnome.org
>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
> 
Tom Browder | 5 Mar 2009 12:39
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Re: Missing Font Glyphs [SOLVED]

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Tom Browder <tom.browder <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I've successfuly built and use Gnumeric 1.9.4 on an x86 running Fedora 7.
>
> I have attempted to do the same thing on an x86_64 running Centos 5.2,
> but the glyphs don;t show and I get the following messages upon
> startup:

I solved the problem by building and installing the latest fontconfig
and freetype libraries.

Note that the stated requirements for pango were met (nor did
configure complain), but, for some reason the existing libraries
didn't work:

  rpm -qa | grep fontconfig

    fontconfig-2.4.1-7.el5
    fontconfig-devel-2.4.1-7.el5

  rpm -qa | grep freetype

    freetype-2.2.1-20.el5_2
    freetype-devel-2.2.1-20.el5_2

I installed fontconfig 2.6.0 and freetype 2.3.8.

-Tom
Sander Marechal | 6 Mar 2009 09:47
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Lotus Symphony messed up the icons of ODF files. How to restore?

Hi. I have a problem with the icons for ODF files. I had Lotus Symphony
installed and removed it again promptly (what a terrible app!). When it
was installed, it changed the icons of ODF files to match it's own
icons. After removing Symphony again the standard icons that Gnome uses
out of the box were not restored. I now have these terrible (XPM?) icons
instead: http://www.jejik.com/sander/temp/odf-icon.png

Does anyone know how to restore the original icons? How does
Gnome/Debian map icons anyway? The filetype itself does seem to work.
When I click on an ODF file OpenOffice.org opens as it did before
SYmphony was installed.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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chad | 7 Mar 2009 17:13
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orca don't start up using open solaris

Hi not sure where to post this.
I downloaded the open solaris live cd.
When the cd stopped spinning i pressed down arrow five times and pressed enter.
I got the first beep and pressed enter.
Then I heard the second beep and waited and pressed enter.
I waited for the cd to stop and i didn't hear orca say welcome to orca.
Is this is a bug?
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