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Desmond Armstrong | 1 Jan 2009 14:40
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Re: gnome-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1 terminal won't start


>> Problem has been fixed as I found many other problems with my installation
>> so I did a complete re-install of Fedora10/Gnome and all is well.
>>
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> Ouch!  Oh, well, as long as you're back up and running, that's a good thing.
>   
 From my experience when one is new to Linux one does end up doing a 
complete re-install probably 3 times, this is part of the learning curve 
and once one is over these initial hurdles it does become much easier.

Also with a new install there are quite a lot of updates which should be 
done.
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Jack Dodds | 1 Jan 2009 18:18
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Switch user incompatible with automatic mounting of media?


I am using Debian Lenny (Testing) with multiple users.  The automatic
mounting of media and SD cards is creating problems.  Is there a
solution, or should this be filed as a bug or suggestion?  I have
searched the Gnome Bugzilla and have not found anything like it.

Usually there are three users signed on, created using the System - Log
Out - Switch User menu item.  We switch back and forth using that menu
item, or more often with <Ctrl><Alt>F7, F8, or F9.

The system has a USB memory card interface.

By default at install time, in System - Preferences - Removable Drives
and Media, the options "Mount removable drives when inserted", "Mount
removable drives when hot-plugged", and "Browse removable media when
inserted" are enabled for all users.

If three users are logged in, and an SD card is inserted in the USB
interface, the system mounts the SD card.  However, the "owner" of the
mounted volume can be any one of the users who is logged in.  If the
"owner" is not the active user (i.e. the one whose desktop is displayed
and is actually using the system) then the active user can't write to
the SD since he doesn't own it.  Nor can he unmount the SD card!  Since
the other user's screens may be locked, he can't switch to their
desktops to unmount either!

Not only that, a Nautilus window for the SD card appears on the desktop
of all the users who are logged in.  If the SD card is unmounted, the
window remains, but its content goes up a level in the directory
hierarchy.  If the SD card is inserted and unmounted multiple times, the
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Jack Dodds | 1 Jan 2009 18:16
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Switch user incompatible with automatic mounting of media?


In any case, it seems that significant effort has been put into coding
these options to make the system more user friendly, and to simply
disable them is undesirable.

Is there another solution?  I'd like to know.

If not, here is a suggestion: ---------------

Modify these options so that they are only acted on by an instance of
GDM  IF it is the instance that is active (i.e. visible on the screen)
AND the screen is not locked.  This would eliminate the ambiguity.  The
user who is actually using the system would own the mounted volume, and
would be the only user to see it.

There is a further complication in the case of my system:

This system has two seats.  In addition to the seat described above,
there is a second seat which could have any of the users logged in.

To avoid ambiguity in that situation, an additional condition could be
added, i.e. that if there is more than one active screen that is not
locked, then no action would be taken.

A complete way of dealing with a multi-seat system is probably another
project - e.g. could some devices/USB ports "belong" to one  seat, and
some be shared?

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jonathan | 2 Jan 2009 17:30
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question about gnome

Hello,

I am new to the list. I am a blind linux user and was wondering with
gnome and the orca screen reader I have noticed with diffrent distro's
that they will have orca set up to work and some distro's do not have
orca setup. could gnome make sure that the orca screen reader is working
before diffrent distro's package gnome for their distro? if not could
some one tell me if i could take the latest build of gnome and make sure
that orca is working and take out some of the programs that a blind user
would not need and then package it for diffrent distro's. thankyou for
your time and help. Jonathan
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Arthur Munn | 5 Jan 2009 01:26
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getting gnumeric spreadsheet

I would just like to find out what on-line stores  or other computer stores  in Canada can send me the gnumeric spreadsheet  by  CD or other form
                    Thanks ....Art
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Stefan Assmann | 5 Jan 2009 14:14
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gnome workspace switcher has different behavior with compiz

With compiz disabled the workspace switcher has a config option "Show
workspace names in switcher". However after enabling compiz this option
is gone.

Is there a way to get this behaviour back with workspace switcher even
though compiz is enabled? I could not find such an option.

  Stefan

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Allan Gottlieb | 6 Jan 2009 02:37
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Re: getting gnumeric spreadsheet

At Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:26:38 -0500 Arthur Munn <aamunn <at> eagle.ca> wrote:

> I would just like to find out what on-line stores  or other computer
> stores  in Canada can send me the gnumeric spreadsheet  by  CD or
> other form

You could check out

http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/downloads.shtml

allan
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sasank.kuntimaddi | 7 Jan 2009 05:45

PKG_CONFIG_PATH problem

Hi
 
I have a strange problem here. I had configured and exported PKG_CONFIG_PATH on my pc and I am using `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` for compiling my code.
Everything worked fine untill I had to add libgnomecanvas path to the existing PKG_CONFIG_PATH. So I decided to check the original PKG_CONFIG_PATH [a sanity check] before I modify it. But I cannot find the existing PKG_CONFIG_PATH in env & echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH returns NULL. But strangely the code compiles
So where is the PKG_CONFIG_PATH I had set?
 
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Calum Benson | 7 Jan 2009 14:20
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Re: Feature idea/request


On 24 Dec 2008, at 15:11, chriswyattuk wrote:

>
> Hi, I was thinking wouldn't it be nice to create tabs from windows.   
> I had a
> bunch of chat windows and I was thinking it would be great to say,  
> just be
> able to just to drag one onto the titlebar of another and group the  
> windows
> together with tabs.  The functionality could be built in to GNOME.   
> Another
> way you could do this is by selecting windows on the task bar and
> right-clicking and selecting an option.  This would be great if you  
> had too
> many windows open and you wanted just to group some together, and  
> they could
> easily be dragged back out again if need be.

What you're describing is a tabbed window manager, something many of  
the GNOME usability folks have suggested in the past, but it hasn't  
got off the ground so far-- not least because window managers are hard  
to write, I guess.  (But also because we've never really sat down to  
try to design one in any detail.)

It's potentially an elegant model, though.  It gives more  
organisational power to the user, obviates the need for app developers  
to decide whether their app ought to be tabbed or not, and takes away  
the temptation to implement their tabs slightly differently from every  
other tabbed app.  I'd love to see us try it out some day.

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Calum Benson | 7 Jan 2009 14:40
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Re: question about gnome


On 2 Jan 2009, at 16:30, jonathan wrote:

> I am new to the list. I am a blind linux user and was wondering with
> gnome and the orca screen reader I have noticed with diffrent distro's
> that they will have orca set up to work and some distro's do not have
> orca setup. could gnome make sure that the orca screen reader is  
> working
> before diffrent distro's package gnome for their distro?

That's really up to individual distros, each of whom are entirely  
responsible for deciding whether to enable accessibility features in a  
default installation.  You'd have to ask each one individually about  
their decision.

(As I'm sure you're aware, though, many of the major distros do have a  
variant available that's tailored to accessible installation and  
usage, so things are somewhat better than they used to be.)

> if not could some one tell me if i could take the latest build of  
> gnome and make sure
> that orca is working and take out some of the programs that a blind  
> user
> would not need and then package it for diffrent distro's. thankyou for
> your time and help.

We've certainly discussed enabling accessibility features by default  
in stable GNOME releases, and I don't think anyone really disagrees  
that it's something we should aim for.  Unfortunately, certain  
accessibility features do cause some notable performance issues for  
people who don't use them, and until those are addressed, it's always  
been decided to make accessibility an opt-in rather than an opt-out  
feature by default.  Not ideal I know, but that's why things are the  
way they are today-- the good news is that GNOME accessibility seems  
to be attracting more attention (and developers) than ever these days,  
so people are working on those issues.

Cheeri,
Calum.

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