guenther | 1 Dec 16:09 2005
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Re: GNOME perodically accesses my disk


> I am running Debian sarge on my Laptop. Recently I noticed that GNOME
> periodically accesses the disk  (Every 5 seconds or so, the disk is
> accessed for about 1 second). This only happens when GNOME is running.
> Without a running Xfree/GNOME, i. e. only the console terminal is up,
> the disk is quiet.
> 
> I wonder if this is OK? Or did I setup GNOME the wrong way? Is GNOME
> looking for something that should be present. but really is absent?
> 
> I would be glad, if someone could comment on this.

Can do. :)

Don't worry, this is fine AFAIK. The GNOME Desktop got some daemons,
that periodically sync data to disk. This probably happens even some
more, depending on your currently running applications.

This is a known issue to some degree (read: could be optimized), but it
is necessary for some applications. For example Evolution tries hard not
to lose the mail you're composing, even if someone turns off the machine
cold.

HTH

...guenther

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guenther | 1 Dec 18:09 2005
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Re: GNOME perodically accesses my disk


> Don't worry, this is fine AFAIK. The GNOME Desktop got some daemons,
> that periodically sync data to disk. This probably happens even some
> more, depending on your currently running applications.

*sigh*  This is what you get for posting before having a sane dose of
caffeine. I stand corrected. Having a close look at my HDD LED tells me,
it isn't accessed every few seconds. I should have known better. Sorry
for the noise.

Please see attached message. [1]

...guenther

[1] Please reply to the list. At least, Cc it. :)

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From: SeriousMan <veryserious <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: GNOME perodically accesses my disk
Date: 2005-12-01 16:48:23 GMT
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SeriousMan | 1 Dec 19:14 2005
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Re: GNOME perodically accesses my disk

> Don't worry, this is fine AFAIK. The GNOME Desktop got some daemons,
> that periodically sync data to disk. This probably happens even some
> more, depending on your currently running applications.
>

No, i had this issue (accessing the hd every five seconds), and got it
resolved. Try googling it, but certainly not ignoring. For example,
you can add noatime to the mount options in fstab. Sometimes the UID
and GID of / are wrong, try chmodding / to root.root
Brandon Kuczenski | 3 Dec 09:29 2005
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esd and gdmflexiserver

When I am running Gnome, the only way I am able to run multiple programs 
that talk to the sound card concurrently, I must run the esound daemon 
(/usr/bin/esd).  However, if another user then logs in via a separate gdm 
session or via gdmflexiserver, she is unable to access the sound card.

Is there a workaround, or does anyone on this list have good ideas for a 
workaround, that would allow multiple users to simultaneously access the 
sound device?  This might be better asked in some sort of esound-devoted 
forum, but according to the README file in the source, "Development on 
Esound stopped several years ago."

Anyone have any ideas?

Regards,
Brandon
Christoffer Gurell | 4 Dec 17:16 2005
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usability of focus follows mouse

I don't know if this is the right place for this topic but perhaps
someone could direkt me if its not. Well here goes.

I configure gnome for focus follows pointer.

I move the mouse over window 1 so this gets focus.
I then change focus with alt-tab to window 2.
Now if i move the mouse, which is still over window 1 the focus stays with 
window 2 until i move the pointer out and in over the window.

This is extremely annoying and i see two solutions to it.

1. Set focus not only when pointer moves into a window but continously
   as it moves across the screen.

2. Add an option to the Alt-tab that moves the pointer to the center of
   the newly focused window (Enlightenments "Send mouse pointer to
   window on focus switch" does this).

I think this needs to adressed asap. So who should I start pesting? :)

 / Christoffer Gurell
Todd Walton | 7 Dec 15:35 2005
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Window List Confused About Sizes

Why oh why does the window list applet on the task bar keep changing
the size of the boxes it lists to indicate which apps are open?

First, can somebody clue me in on the terminology here?  We have the
task bar, at the bottom of the screen by default.  I've got a "show
desktop" button on the far left, and a "workspace switcher" on the far
right.  In between I have a "window list" area.  The window list area
shows rectangular boxes that represent all the windows open (in this
"workspace").  What do I call those rectangular representations?

Second, when I open and close windows, or when the title of a window
changes, those damned boxes change size.  I've seen one stretch all
the way across the entire window list area; I've seen several packed
into two inches of space.  There's no logic to it, I don't even think
it's changing to fit the title.  I have one window open now, Mozilla,
and the length of the rectangular representation is a hair under twice
the length of the title.  Yet when I open up a gnome-terminal that
area is split in half.  Half is given to Mozilla, and half to
gnome-terminal.  The half given to Mozilla isn't long enough, now, to
display the whole title, yet I still have half of the total window
list area's worth of space to use!!

How do I make it stop?  I probably don't care about whatever rationale
was put into making it do this, if there was one.  I just want my
window buttons to stay the same size all the time.

-todd
Olav Vitters | 7 Dec 16:14 2005

Re: Window List Confused About Sizes

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:35:59AM -0800, Todd Walton wrote:
> Why oh why does the window list applet on the task bar keep changing
> the size of the boxes it lists to indicate which apps are open?

That is a hard to fix bug.

> First, can somebody clue me in on the terminology here?  We have the
> task bar, at the bottom of the screen by default.  I've got a "show

Panel or window list.

> desktop" button on the far left, and a "workspace switcher" on the far
> right.  In between I have a "window list" area.  The window list area
> shows rectangular boxes that represent all the windows open (in this
> "workspace").  What do I call those rectangular representations?

Buttons.

> How do I make it stop?  I probably don't care about whatever rationale
> was put into making it do this, if there was one.  I just want my
> window buttons to stay the same size all the time.

There is an open gnome-panel or libwnck bug about it. If you know C I
suggest to fix it. Otherwise changing the minimum and maximum size of
the window list seems to help (IIRC increase the numbers).

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Travis Watkins | 7 Dec 17:12 2005
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Re: Window List Confused About Sizes

On 12/7/05, Olav Vitters <olav <at> bkor.dhs.org> wrote:
> There is an open gnome-panel or libwnck bug about it. If you know C I
> suggest to fix it. Otherwise changing the minimum and maximum size of
> the window list seems to help (IIRC increase the numbers).
>

I believe the "fix" is to set the min and max to the same value.

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Travis Watkins
http://www.realistanew.com
Michael Pardee | 8 Dec 03:00 2005

need official way to prevent shutdown from logout screen

Hello,
My company sells multi-user Linux machines, and we are switching from
Debian with kde to Ubuntu with gnome.   When a user logs out from
gnome-session, they are presented with the option to logout, shutdown,
restart, suspend, etc. and in a lot of cases that is too much.  We
have searched extensively and not found a good way to limit their
options to just logout or save the session and logout.

Looking though the mailing lists it seems there was a lot of
controversy to enabling this feature for normal users to shutdown, so
there should be an easy way to disable it, right?

Yes, you can disable the whole menu with gconf, but then a user can't
choose if they want to save the session or not.  And many users like
to confirm a logout since some accidental mouse clicks without
confirmation could close their session unexpectedly.
There are some postings on this topic that are specific to redhat, and
I dont' think gnome uses the same approach as the original redhat
normal user shutdown approach.
We need an official solution here that is going to work in the long
term.  For example, editing some file or doing some hack that will get
overwritten with the next gnome update is not acceptable.  It seems
like we need gconf variables for which options are going to be shown
in that logout menu, and gnome needs to be rewritten to honor them. 
That might be great for the next release, but we need some solution in
the next week as well.

Can someone recommend a company or individual that does commercial
gnome support?  We need little questions answered like this all the
time and we'd rather pay a gnome expert and get instant answers
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Fil Matthews | 9 Dec 01:59 2005
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mpeg players ???

Ladies and/or Gentlemen.

What has happened to mpeg players in Gnome?? Many years ago when the
earth was green ..  there was a gtv  that played mpegs..  In the last
two versions of REDHAT - GNOME that I have installed, mpeg players are
NON _EXISTANT !!!.. Is there anywhere I can go to get a simple runnable
usable MPEG player for GNOME - Linux ????

Many Thanks in advance

Gmane