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Siegfried Gonzi | 2 Jun 2002 11:57
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ktexmaker2 hits the spot

Hi,

ktexmaker2 only runs normal under Gnome. Do not ask me why. I have got 
SuSE 8.0 installed and starting ktexmaker2 results in a strange 
flickering of some panels under KDE 3.0.

Under Gnome it works normal. The problem what I actually have: I cannot 
get rid of the ketxmaker2 logo. Curious? Normally, when you start 
ktexmaker2 you see first the logo:

ktexmaker2
Integrated LaTeX Environment for KDE
(C) P.Brachet - Published under GNU Licenses
http://xm1.net.free.fr//.....    T

The logo normally disappears after the ktexmaker2 environment has 
appeared. But without any notice the logo *remains* unchanged under my 
Gnome session. That means even if I log out from ktexmaker2 the logo 
will *not* disappear. Even rebooting the system will not cure the 
situation. I tried even different window managers but the logo is 
imprinted  in the center of my window and hides everything else since 2 
days (the first few days everything worked normal). In order to write 
this message I have to move around my Mozilla composer to get a free sight.

If I log in to the KDE 3.0 environment the logo is *not* visible. 
Therefore I think this is Gnome related.

How can I get rid of this fucking logo? I am not ready to install Gnome 
anew; but I think it would be a pity if I could use only KDE in the 
future (especially since Gnome is only at the first time slow; I run it
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hobbit | 2 Jun 2002 12:54
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Re: ktexmaker2 hits the spot

On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:57:13AM +0200 or thereabouts, Siegfried Gonzi wrote:

> Under Gnome it works normal. The problem what I actually have: I cannot 
> get rid of the ketxmaker2 logo. Curious? Normally, when you start 
> ktexmaker2 you see first the logo:

I don't follow whether this is a "splash screen": a window that
shows up whilst the rest is loading and then vanishes (or, in 
this case, doesn't). Or whether it's a change on the background. 
I presume it's a window, if you're having to move things around it? 
Does it have no titlebar with "destroy window" buttons? 

I have never met a situation like this before, so I'm not sure
what to suggest. If even rebooting (!) isn't changing things, it
sounds like it's in your saved session somehow.

You could try: control-centre (that's the toolbox on the panel, or
gnomecc from the command line) 
	-> session properties and startup programs on the left
	-> startup programs tab on the right

ktexmaker2 might appear in the non-session-managed startup programs
(what a long title!) tab. I rarely see programs there, but I
presume you can stop it from appearing when you start gnome by
messing with the options there. If that gives you, no joy, then..

 	-> browse currently-running programs... button
	-> session properties window should open.

Look for ktexmaker2 on that list. Hightlight it. If the box
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Siegfried Gonzi | 3 Jun 2002 08:11
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Re: [digest] ktexmaker2 hits the spot

gnome-list-request <at> gnome.org wrote:

> I don't follow whether this is a "splash screen": a window that
> shows up whilst the rest is loading and then vanishes (or, in 
> this case, doesn't). Or whether it's a change on the background. 
> I presume it's a window, if you're having to move things around it? 
> Does it have no titlebar with "destroy window" buttons? 

No, no. If you fire up ketexmaker2 then first the start up logo will 
appear on the screen (at the same time the editor itself is coming up in 
the background; this are 2 different processes though dependend of each 
other). When the ktexmaker2 editor is completely loaded the logo 
normally will disappear. The ketexmaker2 has a real window, but the logo 
only is a yellow rectangle (placed in the cente of  my window; it has 
about the same area dimension as the toolbox panel).

> You could try: control-centre (that's the toolbox on the panel, or
> gnomecc from the command line) 
> 	-> session properties and startup programs on the left
> 	-> startup programs tab on the right
> 
> ktexmaker2 might appear in the non-session-managed startup programs
> (what a long title!) tab. I rarely see programs there, but I
> presume you can stop it from appearing when you start gnome by
> messing with the options there. If that gives you, no joy, then..
> 
>  	-> browse currently-running programs... button
> 	-> session properties window should open.

ktexmaker2 is not roaming there! And I have got no clue how a
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Siegfried Gonzi | 3 Jun 2002 10:02
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Re: [digest] ktexmaker2 hits the spot

gnome-list-request <at> gnome.org wrote:

> From: hobbit <at> aloss.ukuu.org.uk

> I don't follow whether this is a "splash screen": a window that
> shows up whilst the rest is loading and then vanishes (or, in 
> this case, doesn't).

As an addition: In the meantime I think I know what is meant by "splash 
screen". For example if I log in into Gnome or KDE a logo (or splash 
screen; am I right?) will first appear.

The same appears when starting up ktexmaker2. But as said, the logo does 
not disappear (even if I kill ktexmaker2).

On my laptop I do not have any problems with Gnome and ktexmaker2 (same 
SuSE 8.0 installation as on my stationary machine). But I think I know 
how to reconstruct the bad behavior: when the ktexmaker2 splash screen 
and ketexmaker2 itself both appear during startup: quickly closing 
ktexmaker2 during startup could result that the logo will remain even 
ktexmaker2 has been logged down.

Regards,
S. Gonzi
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Mads Randstoft | 3 Jun 2002 12:59
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Re: themes

On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 16:26, Sam Halliday wrote:
> where can i get some nice themes for gnome 1.2? i keep following links
> that end up on freshmeat, but they always seem to be broken and for
> older versions... freshmeat is not very good when there are lots of
> files to browse through.

Go for www.themes.org
They have themes for everything...

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Robert Ian Smit | 3 Jun 2002 17:35
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Restoring desktop configuration

Something wreaked havoc on my Gnome-desktop last week. I believe it
was Galeon having loaded a website that threw up a bunch of "install
crap" dialogs. I lost my panels and all toolbars and buttons on
windows. I could use the terminal for instance but could not move,
resize or configure options. After logging in again, the same thing
happened. There was an error message, but that vanished before I
could read it. Something about a deskguide I think.

I killed X and went in to my Gnome dotfiles. I couldn't find
anything obvious. In the end I made a backup of anything closely
related to Gnome in ~/ and removed the original files. After that, I
had a fresh setup and copied back my most important settings.

It is safe to assume that something like this will happen again some
time. What then are the obvious files to remove? I guess files
regarding to sessions and dynamic config-files. Which are these?

I am running Sawfish 1.0.1 and the Gnome from Debian/testing. Can't
find out quickly which one that is. Let me know if that is important.

On a related note, is there something like a Gnome-user community
apart from this list akin to what you will find when you hit the
homepage of that other desktop environment.

Thanks for any information,

Bob
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Sean Middleditch | 3 Jun 2002 17:43

Re: Restoring desktop configuration

Sounds like Sawfish crashed.  You could open a terminal and run the
"Sawfish" command, then save your session and log out.  

On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 11:35, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
> Something wreaked havoc on my Gnome-desktop last week. I believe it
> was Galeon having loaded a website that threw up a bunch of "install
> crap" dialogs. I lost my panels and all toolbars and buttons on
> windows. I could use the terminal for instance but could not move,
> resize or configure options. After logging in again, the same thing
> happened. There was an error message, but that vanished before I
> could read it. Something about a deskguide I think.
> 
> I killed X and went in to my Gnome dotfiles. I couldn't find
> anything obvious. In the end I made a backup of anything closely
> related to Gnome in ~/ and removed the original files. After that, I
> had a fresh setup and copied back my most important settings.
> 
> It is safe to assume that something like this will happen again some
> time. What then are the obvious files to remove? I guess files
> regarding to sessions and dynamic config-files. Which are these?
> 
> I am running Sawfish 1.0.1 and the Gnome from Debian/testing. Can't
> find out quickly which one that is. Let me know if that is important.
> 
> On a related note, is there something like a Gnome-user community
> apart from this list akin to what you will find when you hit the
> homepage of that other desktop environment.
> 
> Thanks for any information,
>
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Mike Newman | 3 Jun 2002 18:51
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Re: Restoring desktop configuration

On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 16:35, Robert Ian Smit wrote:

> Something wreaked havoc on my Gnome-desktop last week. I believe it
> was Galeon having loaded a website that threw up a bunch of "install
> crap" dialogs. I lost my panels and all toolbars and buttons on
> windows. I could use the terminal for instance but could not move,
> resize or configure options. After logging in again, the same thing
> happened. There was an error message, but that vanished before I
> could read it. Something about a deskguide I think.

It sounds like sawfish died for some reason.

> It is safe to assume that something like this will happen again some
> time. What then are the obvious files to remove? I guess files
> regarding to sessions and dynamic config-files. Which are these?

Typing sawfish & in the terminal which you still had access to would
have restored window controls and let you safely exit without losing any
files.

> On a related note, is there something like a Gnome-user community
> apart from this list akin to what you will find when you hit the
> homepage of that other desktop environment.

If you mean web boards etc. there is a small, fledgeling community at
http://www.gnomedesktop.com, but much of the news and information is
drawn from here, from other lists and from http://www.gnome.org.

Mike
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Pollywog | 3 Jun 2002 19:20

Re: Restoring desktop configuration

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:35:49 +0200
"Robert Ian Smit" <robian <at> wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> I killed X and went in to my Gnome dotfiles. I couldn't find
> anything obvious. In the end I made a backup of anything closely
> related to Gnome in ~/ and removed the original files. After that,
> I had a fresh setup and copied back my most important settings.

Similar things have happened to me a few times, though Galeon was
not the culprit.  I had to start with a new Gnome config setup, just
as you did, but that can be tedious, reconfiguring everything.  I
suggest keeping a backup copy of .gnome/ .gnome-desktop and
.gnome_private  for the next time.

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Pollywog | 3 Jun 2002 19:24

Re: Restoring desktop configuration

On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:20:44 +0000
"Pollywog" <croak <at> shadypond.com> wrote:

> 
> Similar things have happened to me a few times, though Galeon was
> not the culprit.  I had to start with a new Gnome config setup,
> just as you did, but that can be tedious, reconfiguring
> everything.  I suggest keeping a backup copy of .gnome/
> .gnome-desktop and.gnome_private  for the next time.
> 

oops...   .gnome/    .gnome-desktop/   .gnome_private

.gnome_private/ is where your passwords are kept, so make sure there
is no global read access there.

This problem has not happened to me recently, and IIRC it only
happened while I was using Sawfish.  I am using Icewm-gnome now.

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