Dave Bordoley | 18 Jan 19:02 2003
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Re: adding dead space to floating panels

On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 17:34, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 04:06, Dave Bordoley wrote:
> 
> > FWIW, I think floating panels are an "edge" case, which have ui problems
> > by their design. They also expose some of the deeper ui problems with
> > the panel (over configurability). So my general response to this
> > statement is that you don't screw up the ui of all other panels just
> > because one case has problems.
> 
> 	What are these "deeper UI issues" ? Issues don't get fixed or even
> thought about unless you tell us what they are.
> 
> Good Luck,
> Mark.

Hi Mark,

Many of them are well known among the ui team, the most obvious of which
is the dependence of context menus for customization of the panels
(which is why floating panels seem to have problems in this respect). 

Another issues imo includes the existance of too many different types of
panels. I believe Calum had proposed their only being one panel type
which changed behaviors based on where the user positioned it. I'll
probably catch some flack here, but i personally wouldn't mind there
only being one type of panel all together (edge panels). Of course such
a change would probably cause a mass uprising.

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Dave Bordoley | 18 Jan 19:03 2003
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Re: auto raise default delay

On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 17:09, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> So far I've learned "only 3 people 1500 on this list use autoraise" ;-)
> 
> Havoc
> 
> 

So does this mean people don't use autoraise and hence the preference is
no longer needed...

/me runs

dave
Andre Truter | 18 Jan 20:07 2003
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File-Roller 2.0.4-46 does not show files

Hi,

I have File-Roller 2.0.4 installed on two machines running SuSE 8.1 and
on both, File-Roller does not display any filenames in the list of files
in an archive.

I opened the Preferences and the tick box for 'File Name' is unchecked
and greyed out, so I cannot select it.

Any idea how I can get it to show the file names also?

Thanks 
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Stephen Kuhn | 18 Jan 20:39 2003
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Re: auto raise default delay

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 05:03, Dave Bordoley wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 17:09, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > So far I've learned "only 3 people 1500 on this list use autoraise" ;-)
> > 
> > Havoc
> > 
> > 
> 
> So does this mean people don't use autoraise and hence the preference is
> no longer needed...
> 
> /me runs
> 
> dave
> _______________________________________________

What about using Sawfish instead of MetaCity?

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Pedro Ortega | 18 Jan 21:23 2003
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Re: Gnome2: problems with Acrobat reader and Gk dial

On 17 Jan 2003, Riccardo Gusso wrote:

> I have just installed Gnome2 on my Debian sid/unstable (before I was
> using only WindowMaker) and I have already found two small problems:
> 1) when Acrobat Reader starts, it presents a licence agreement window
> that I cannot close since I have no closing buttons on the top bar of
> the window, and so I cannot use the program

Just resize the window (larger), the two buttons ("accept", "cancel")
will appear at the bottom.

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Havoc Pennington | 18 Jan 23:26 2003
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Re: adding dead space to floating panels

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 01:02:24PM -0500, Dave Bordoley wrote:

> Many panel applets really should be included in the system notification
> area, these include
> 
> 1. The clock
> 2. Wireless link monitor
> 3. Modem lights (really should just be the equivalent of a minimized
> dial-up connection window imho)
> 4. Volume control
> 5. Battery monitor
> 
> and i'm sure others as well fall into this category. There is precedent
> for this in both windows and on the mac.
> 
> This post on the usability list covers this topic fairly well:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2002-October/msg00265.html
>

I think this is wrong for several of the applets you and Gregory
mention. My view is that nothing in the notification area should
really be more than an icon; you click the icon and it should open
more details on whatever status the icon indicates. If the
notification is urgent or requires attention, we should do the bubble
balloon like Windows XP, or maybe just use a dialog. We should also
have UI to hide certain icons, disable balloons, and smarten up the
notification area so items can be reordered and their order gets
remembered.

We should not start moving all the applets to the notification area;
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Markus Bertheau | 19 Jan 00:04 2003
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Re: File-Roller 2.0.4-46 does not show files

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 20:07, Andre Truter wrote:

> I opened the Preferences and the tick box for 'File Name' is unchecked
> and greyed out, so I cannot select it.
> 
> Any idea how I can get it to show the file names also?

gconftool-2 -s /apps/file-roller/listing/show_name -t bool true

I'm not sure if it works for 2.0.4.

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Dave Bordoley | 19 Jan 00:19 2003
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Re: adding dead space to floating panels

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 17:26, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> > Many panel applets really should be included in the system notification
> > area, these include
> > 
> > 1. The clock
> > 2. Wireless link monitor
> > 3. Modem lights (really should just be the equivalent of a minimized
> > dial-up connection window imho)
> > 4. Volume control
> > 5. Battery monitorOn Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 01:02:24PM -0500, Dave Bordoley wrote:
>  
> > 
> > and i'm sure others as well fall into this category. There is precedent
> > for this in both windows and on the mac.
> > 
> > This post on the usability list covers this topic fairly well:
> > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2002-October/msg00265.html
> >
> 
> I think this is wrong for several of the applets you and Gregory
> mention. My view is that nothing in the notification area should
> really be more than an icon; you click the icon and it should open
> more details on whatever status the icon indicates. If the
> notification is urgent or requires attention, we should do the bubble
> balloon like Windows XP, or maybe just use a dialog. We should also
> have UI to hide certain icons, disable balloons, and smarten up the
> notification area so items can be reordered and their order gets
> remembered.

Well i think it can be easily argued that at least the applets i listed
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