Discussion of Gnome Clipboard Manager (gcm) development

Andrew Lau | 5 Feb 06:38

Re: gcm 2.0.4 has very buggy build scripts

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 07:07:18PM +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> > 1. i18n support is severely broken, as each locale is incorrectly
> > being installed as:
> > "/usr/share/locale/$LANG/LC_MESSAGES/@GETTEXT_PACKAGE@.mo".
> > @GETTEXT_PACKAGE@ is not being substituted with "gcm". I've had to
> > disable i18n in my packages altogether due to this.
> 
> i18n seems to work here. It is also very wierd that anything would
> go wrong because there is almost NO configuration that has to be
> done when you use the automake-tools. The people of gnome-i18n also
> maintain changes about the i18n support. So if something as huge as
> that would be wrong, then they would have told me a long time ago ..

Dear Philip,
	So i18n in gcm can find the appropriate i18n locales even
though you have files such as
/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/@GETTEXT_PACKAGE@.mo instead of
gcm.mo?

Yours sincerely,
Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau

PS: Have you corrected the clear clipboard bug yet? Do you have a
patch I can apply on 2.0.4 to fix it? Thanks.
		
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Philip Van Hoof | 5 Feb 09:06

[Fwd: GCM release]

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> From: Will LaShell <will <at> lashell.net>
> To: me <at> freax.org
> Subject: GCM release
> Date: 04 Feb 2003 19:57:00 -0700
> 
> Heya,  I'm looking at all the packages for the 5th toe release and I'm
> checking out gcm. All I can say is -WOW-  I love it.  This thing is
> -cool-  We so need it out there and talked about. Great work man.
> 
> There are a couple of problems I'm seeing though. First when I opened
> the tarball, the configure script didn't work. The symlinked libtool and
> automake scripts will not work. End users and package compilers will
> need local copies of those tools in the release.
> 
> Do you think you can fix this up and make a new release?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Will LaShell
> 
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Philip Van Hoof | 5 Feb 09:11

Re: gcm 2.0.4 has very buggy build scripts

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:38, Andrew Lau wrote:

> > i18n seems to work here. It is also very wierd that anything would
> > go wrong because there is almost NO configuration that has to be
> > done when you use the automake-tools. The people of gnome-i18n also
> > maintain changes about the i18n support. So if something as huge as
> > that would be wrong, then they would have told me a long time ago ..

> Dear Philip,
> 	So i18n in gcm can find the appropriate i18n locales even
> though you have files such as
> /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/@GETTEXT_PACKAGE@.mo instead of
> gcm.mo?

Of course not, but here those files are installed correctly. So I cannot
reproduce this bug :-\

> PS: Have you corrected the clear clipboard bug yet? Do you have a
> patch I can apply on 2.0.4 to fix it? Thanks.
		
I cannot reproduce this but too. All the items on the shelf get removed
here

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Philip Van Hoof | 5 Feb 09:17

Re: GCM release

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 03:57, Will LaShell wrote:

> Heya,  I'm looking at all the packages for the 5th toe release and I'm
> checking out gcm. All I can say is -WOW-  I love it.  This thing is
> -cool-  We so need it out there and talked about. Great work man.

Okay, I am very glad that you like the application. Tells me that I did
not make this application for nothing 

> There are a couple of problems I'm seeing though. First when I opened
> the tarball, the configure script didn't work. The symlinked libtool and
> automake scripts will not work. End users and package compilers will
> need local copies of those tools in the release.

I would be more than happy if somebody with the proper knowledge of
buildscripts could help me. If you see fixes that you can do then do not
hesitate to contact me and provide patches.

> Do you think you can fix this up and make a new release?

The next release that I will be responsible for will be the 2.1.0 or
unstable release. I don't know if this release will get packages by the
packagers (debian and redhat). I will also maintain the next stable
branche called 2.2.0. This branche will be developed in parallel with
2.1.0 of course. When a first release of 2.2.0 will be finished: I don't
know  this highly depends on the amount of contributions and people
wanting to help me. At this moment I am the only active developer of the
package .. and I can tell you that it is becoming a lot of code to
manage.

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Andrew Lau | 5 Feb 11:24

Re: gcm 2.0.4 has very buggy build scripts

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:11:10AM +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> Of course not, but here those files are installed correctly. So I
> cannot reproduce this bug :-\

Can you please send me the version numbers of all the GNU devel tools
(eg. auto{conf,make}, gettext etc) that you've used to compile gcm at
your end?

Thanks,
Andrew

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Andrew Lau | 5 Feb 13:51

Re: gcm 2.0.4 has very buggy build scripts

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:36:38AM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote:
> 	Another bug in 2.0.4 I just found seems to be that "Clear
> list" no longer empties the clipboard, it only deletes any highlighted
> item. Would it also be possible to select more than one clipboard item
> at a time in gcmui using Shift/Ctrl in the same manner as choosing
> multiple items in a HTML form list? I'm going to sleep now, so if you
> don't reply to this by tomorrow morning, I'll submit this into
> Bugzilla.

Hey everyone,
	For the record, this bug is no longer reproducible on my end
after purging ~/.gcm and .gconf/apps/gcm. There must have been some
preference breakage after upgrading to 2.0.4 from 2.0.3.

Yours sincerely,
Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau

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Andrew Lau | 5 Feb 14:07

Access to cvs.gnome.org?

Dear Philip,
	Have you transferred any of our CVS accounts from SourceForge
to GNOME CVS yet? I think it would also be a good idea to empty out
our repository on SourceForge and leave just a single README there so
no one in future accidentally works on obsolete code.

Yours sincerely,
Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau
	
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Philip Van Hoof | 5 Feb 14:54

Re: Access to cvs.gnome.org?

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:07, Andrew Lau wrote:
> Dear Philip,
> 	Have you transferred any of our CVS accounts from SourceForge
> to GNOME CVS yet? I think it would also be a good idea to empty out
> our repository on SourceForge and leave just a single README there so
> no one in future accidentally works on obsolete code.

Hi there Andrew, I have transfered a few accounts from sourceforge to
GNOME Cvs. I while a go I asked who wanted a account and I remember two
persons asked for such a account. I can, of course, always ask for more
accounts. Please let me know if somebody needs a account. 

I think clearing out the sourceforge cvs is a good idea. However, we
will have to file a request for that.. you can remove all files but they
will still exist in the Attic directory. You are free to do this; I
think your rights are high enough to ask for this.

Please leave the old gcm directory or make the cvs admins move it to
"gcm-old" or something like that. I dont keep backups of the old version
of gcm and maybe somebody wants a version someday? It's the only gtk1.2
clipboard manager that I know of ...

You are, of course, also free to commit changes to the GNOME Cvs if your
account works (I remember creating a account for you?). This includes
fixes for automake. Of course, always make sure that such changes work
on non-debian platforms too. Debian is great but gcm is not a
debian-only application of course . Such debian-specific changes
belong to your package-patches afaik. I will always notice such issues
as I use RedHat 8.0 for desktop usage.

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Andrew Lau | 5 Feb 16:59

Re: Access to cvs.gnome.org?

Hi Philip,

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:54:52PM +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> Hi there Andrew, I have transfered a few accounts from sourceforge to
> GNOME Cvs. I while a go I asked who wanted a account and I remember two
> persons asked for such a account. I can, of course, always ask for more
> accounts. Please let me know if somebody needs a account. 

Oh yes, you're right. I do have an account = ). Thanks!

> You asked for the versions of ..... and .... : well I use the versions
> shipped by RedHat 8.0. 

http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/packages.html

autoconf 	2.53 	A GNU tool for automatically configuring source code.
autoconf213 	2.13 	A GNU tool for automatically configuring source code.
automake 	1.6.3 	A GNU tool for automatically creating Makefiles.
automake14 	1.4p6 	A GNU tool for automatically creating Makefiles.
automake15 	1.5 	A GNU tool for automatically creating Makefiles.

I can tell you're using automake-1.4 judging from the symlinks to
install-sh, missing etc you have, but which version of autoconf are
you using?  Will you be upgrading gcm to use autoconf 2.53 and
automake 1.6 in the near future, or would it break too much stuff and
take too much effort?

Yours sincerely,
Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau

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Philip Van Hoof | 5 Feb 17:09

Re: Access to cvs.gnome.org?

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 16:59, Andrew Lau wrote:

> 
> Oh yes, you're right. I do have an account = ). Thanks!

np :)

> > You asked for the versions of ..... and .... : well I use the versions
> > shipped by RedHat 8.0. 
> 
> http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/packages.html
> 
> autoconf 	2.53 	A GNU tool for automatically configuring source code.
> autoconf213 	2.13 	A GNU tool for automatically configuring source code.
> automake 	1.6.3 	A GNU tool for automatically creating Makefiles.
> automake14 	1.4p6 	A GNU tool for automatically creating Makefiles.
> automake15 	1.5 	A GNU tool for automatically creating Makefiles.

[freax <at> snuffel icons]$ automake --version
automake (GNU automake) 1.6.3
Written by Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>.

Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is
NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE.
[freax <at> snuffel icons]$

But check the autogen.sh script; it invokes the automake selected by

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