2011/1/31 Michael Meeks <michael.meeks <at> novell.com>: > > These people are irritating ... three spams from the same group. They > shot themselves in the foot in the third paragraph with the "twenty > minutes" IMHO. > +1. Real annoying spams. -- Regards, Aron Xu
Hi, Michael Meeks wrote: > These people are irritating ... three spams from the same group. They > shot themselves in the foot in the third paragraph with the "twenty > minutes" IMHO. I've also seen it on other forums. As far as I know, they approached the board so it's sanctioned. Grin & bear it has been my approach. Cheers, Dave. -- -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dneary <at> gnome.org
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dave Neary <dneary <at> gnome.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > Michael Meeks wrote: > > These people are irritating ... three spams from the same group. They > > shot themselves in the foot in the third paragraph with the "twenty > > minutes" IMHO. > > I've also seen it on other forums. As far as I know, they approached the > board so it's sanctioned. Grin & bear it has been my approach. Also, each email has a "Follow the link to opt out of future emails:" link at the bottom. I'm not crazy about this survey or how it's been handled, either, but you don't *have* to deal with the spam any more than once.Sandy
I asked Sherae to stop sending reminders and immediately got an email agreeing saying there would be no more reminders.
I will also check to make sure GNOME developers haven't been added to a spam list of any kind.
Stormy
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Dave Neary <dneary <at> gnome.org> wrote:Also, each email has a "Follow the link to opt out of future emails:"
>
> Hi,
>
> Michael Meeks wrote:
> > These people are irritating ... three spams from the same group. They
> > shot themselves in the foot in the third paragraph with the "twenty
> > minutes" IMHO.
>
> I've also seen it on other forums. As far as I know, they approached the
> board so it's sanctioned. Grin & bear it has been my approach.
link at the bottom.
I'm not crazy about this survey or how it's been handled, either, but
you don't *have* to deal with the spam any more than once.
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+1. We already have survey infrastructures setup for foundation use. Maybe next time someone comes along we can use their time to run a survey that the board approved and is conducted on our own infrastructure, under our own terms. behdad On 01/31/11 05:05, Michael Meeks wrote: > > These people are irritating ... three spams from the same group. They > shot themselves in the foot in the third paragraph with the "twenty > minutes" IMHO. > > Can I suggest that the Board complains to these guys for hassling our > contributors - and/or is this sanctioned - I assume it must be since > they use the trademark in their 'GNOME developer survey' title. > > Furthermore - since these surveys are at least somewhat frequent, can I > suggest that in future, the foundation acts as an intermediary: > > * to review the content of these surveys pwrt. brevity > * to normalise some questions such that we have a consistent > set of questions over time we can graph. > * to broker and publish the complete raw data under some > suitable open license. > * provide some financial incentive to the foundation per > respondant, rather than some uncertain prize > * to do the mailing of questions themselves - and do this > only once. > > HTH, > > Michael. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list <at> gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 15:07 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > +1. > > We already have survey infrastructures setup for foundation use. Maybe next > time someone comes along we can use their time to run a survey that the board > approved and is conducted on our own infrastructure, under our own terms. Definitively. -- -- Germán Póo-Caamaño http://www.gnome.org/~gpoo/
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The meeting minutes for the January 6th GNOME Foundation board
meeting is now published. Refer here:
http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20110118
Other past board meetings are archived here:
http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes
-- text of the latest minutes follows --
Minutes for Meeting of January 18th, 2011
Next Meeting
* February 1st, 2011
Attending
* Andreas Nilsson
* Bastien Nocera
* Emily Chen
* Germán Póo-Caamaño
* Og Maciel
* Paul Cutler
* Rosanna Yuen
Regrets
Missing
* Brian Cameron
Recurring Items
* Review past action items.
* Did each person with action items send their status reports to
the board list before the meeting?
* Approve and make sure that minutes of last meeting were published
to foundation-announce and foundation-list.
* Make sure to start up the gobby server for better note taking.
* Update foundation.gnome.org website.
New Items
* Mono Hackfest:
o http://live.gnome.org/GNOME%2BMonoHackfest2010
o Held in Brussels, February 7-11 (directly after FOSDEM
2011).
o The Board has approved it. (+6)
* Event Box:
o FOSDEM is in a couple of weeks and GNOME 3 is around the
corner. Having a functional Event Box in Europe is a must.
o Bastien will ask to Murray to insist to UPS wrt the lost
Event Box.
o We are going to replace the old event box with a new one.
€3,000 would be ok, but it should not restricted to that.
If it were necessary, €5,000 well spent still would be ok.
The figures are approximate.
o [ACTION]: Bastien to e-mail Murray about contacting UPS one
more time regarding the lost Event Box.
* Friends of GNOME (FoG) updates
o Needs to follow up with those who have deliverables.
+ Not getting replies. Does the Board have any
suggestions?
o Keeping Previous Donors web page up to date.
o Helping Rosanna track new subscriptions and donations.
+ GIMP
# [ACTION]: Bastien to e-mail GIMP about changing
their website, and procedure for donating.
+ Women's Outreach
+ a11y
* Canonical notified the board of their plans to ship Qt by default.
o http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/568
o Discussing how to respond.
o What can we do to improve the popularity of GTK+?
+ Better documentation, examples for User and Developer
documentation may improve GTK+'s appeal.
+ Someone should take on spearheading a series of
conversations, hackfests, etc .to raise GTK+
awareness.
# GNOME Journal themed publication with coding
tutorials?
# Get some articles re-published from LWN?
Completed Actions
* Brian - Will discuss with Bradley Kuhn ideas about how to improve
GNOME/a11y Fundraising.
* Paul - Will do a call for agenda items to the Advisory Board
list.
Status of action items
* Andreas - Will follow up with Andrew Savory from LiMo to see if
relevant information from their GTK+ study can be made more
public. (will ping again).
* Andreas - To ask Kat if she can reach out to the
gnome-de <at> gnome.org mailing list about finding local German
volunteers to help with the Desktop Summit 2011. (will ping again)
* Andreas - Will send out emails to get more contacts or
suggestions for someone who may be interested in applying.
* Bastien - Will try to find people who can consolidate the
feedback about the Texas Instruments Zoom2 device to provide back
to Texas Instruments.
* Bastien - Will take over the internal review process task from
Diego Urrelo (hopefully he can automate it).
* Bastien - To find a way to automate the process of exporting
results from internal review process and email it to the board.
* Bastien - To discuss the use of badges (a-la Creative Commons,
last.fm page colors, or PSN badges).
* Bastien - To talk to Olav Vitters about using bugzilla to track
Friends of GNOME post card sending.
* Bastien - To get _a_ WebOS/Palm contact from Lennart Poettering.
* Bastien - To contact the BBC to discuss about possible
collaboration in working directly with GNOME.
* Bastien - Will reach out to Dave Richards from the City of Largo
to plan for a hackfest there.
* Brian - Develop trademark usage forms for common use cases. James
Vasile from legal is working with Brian on this.
* Brian - Check records of organizations with existing contracts to
use the GNOME trademark. Taken over from Vincent Untz. Look at
the archives in 2005 and try to determine which companies can use
the GNOME trademark. Know what kind of contracts we had with
them. Taken over from Jorge.
* Germán - To discuss with GNOME Hispano about them handling GNOME
Foundation money in Euros (€).
* Germán - To track if the new method of boletos generates more or
less money from Brazil.
* Germán - To have a draft Fiscal Year Budget in October for the
board to review.
* Germán - Will provide an updated budget for review that we'll
plan to send to foundation-list for community review.
* Germán - Will assist with the GNOME 3 as a Foundation goal task
and to help in getting the GNOME 3 as a Foundation Goal survey
topics together. (Handing over to someone else.)
* Og - Update the blog and planet to highlight that people are
expected to sign and follow the GNOME Code of Conduct.
o As per Paul's recommendation, I have emailed Vincent to ask
him what his idea is for doing this.
o Still haven't heard back from vuntz
o Still on ToDo.
* Og - Will work to update the GNOME websites to update pages that
refer to Stormy as the Executive Director.
o Still on ToDo.
* Og - To look into Google Checkout as an annual payment option for
FoG.
o Still on ToDo.
* Og - Will email the ED mailing list and ask for an update on how
the hiring process is going, how many applications, etc.
* Og - Will email the foundation-list mailing list with a reminder
of January 12th IRC meeting time details.
* Paul - Will send an email to the foundation-list and the gnucash
list seeking someone to take over the GnuCash automation. Taken
over from Behdad Esfahbod.
* Paul - To start work on next 2011 Annual Report ASAP (due start
FY2012).
* Paul - Will work with Gil Forcada from guifi.net and gnome-
marketing to define the best way for organizations like guifi.net
to participate in the GNOME community. Not many replies from the
community. Diego Urrelo will draft something more concrete for
gnome-marketing to determine the best name and process for
managing this. There was a discussion on the mailing list and a
few good ideas, Diego will wrap them up and send them again for
further comments.
* Paul - Will follow-up with Board to read the Advisory Board fees
for small businesses proposal, ask for feedback and set a date to
vote by.
* Paul - To finish the Privacy Policy, get review from James
Vasile, etc.
* Paul - To review Justin's email about updating trademark
agreements and email the marketing team for feedback.
* Paul - Will follow up with the marketing-list to provide more
details about what sort of work we would like to have done for
the marketing contract.
* Rosanna - Will apply for the GNOME credit card. Status: Filled
out initial application, have appointment next Wednesday with the
bank to continue process.
* Rosanna - Will handle the purchase orders with Google for
GIMP/GStreamer GSoC mentor payments as she has been doing it
already for GNOME.
* Rosanna - Automate the process of entering PayPal information
into GnuCash.
New Action Items
* Bastien - To e-mail Murray about contacting UPS one more time
regarding the lost Event Box.
* Bastien - To e-mail GIMP about changing their website, and
procedure for donating.
Discussed on Mailing List
* Hiring an Executive Director
o Deadline for applications extended to January 26th:
+
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2011/01/07/executive-director-position-at-gnome-foundation-new-application-deadline/
o Brian and Og are now participating on the ED hiring
committee.
* T-Shirt Contest Extended:
o
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2011/01/12/gnome-t-shirt-design-contest-extended/
* Mobile
o Announcing the results for the Mobile bidding process.
+
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2011/01/17/gtk-meego-handset-bidders-selected/
* Events
o Planning for the GNOME+Mono hackfest following FOSDEM 2011.
The total cost is expected to be $2,200. Canonical
expressed an interest in sponsoring with $500 (US), so the
cost would currently be $1,700 (US) to The GNOME Foundation.
+ http://live.gnome.org/GNOME%2BMonoHackfest2010
o Discussion about organizing a GNOME booth at FOSDEM. The
board approved spending 400 Euro to make stickers
available.
* Meetings
o Planning for the GNOME IRC meeting on January 12th.
o The board decided to move the board meeting to Tuesdays to
better accommodate schedules.
* Discussions with Bradley Kuhn about how the Free Software
Conservancy (SFC) and The GNOME Foundation could work together.
* Discussion about possibly setting up a store in China selling
GNOME branded merchandise.
* Brian composed the Q4 report for the board.
* Discussion about better automating how donations are received.
Thanks for supporting the event :) Would you please fill your names at http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011
It would be nice if you could give a presentation during the conference on April 2nd to inspire local developers and students to know more and contribute to GNOME in different ways, we have a list of topics that would like to cover:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/2011Summit/ConferenceTopics
Of course you can also suggest new topic, details of call for paper at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper, thanks a lot!
Pockey
On 01/24/2011 09:30 PM, Allan Day wrote:Vincent Untz wrote:Le vendredi 21 janvier 2011, à 23:41 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit :Yes, I think I can go; and I think it would be good to have a marketingSo Hackfest registration is happening here:What's the plan on the marketing team side? Do we have people who can
http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011 , call for papers for
the conference is here http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper
and conference registration will be opening soon.
go? I didn't see any replies on marketing-list to the previous mails,
unless I missed something.
gettogether around that time.
Best,
Allan
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The meeting minutes for the February 1st GNOME Foundation board
meeting is now published. Refer here:
http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20110201
Other past board meetings are archived here:
http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes
-- text of the latest minutes follows --
Minutes for Meeting of February 1st, 2011
Next Meeting
* February 15th, 2011
Attending
* Andreas Nilsson
* Bastien Nocera
* Brian Cameron
* Emily Chen
* Germán Póo-Caamaño
* Og Maciel
* Paul Cutler
* Rosanna Yuen
Regrets
* Og Maciel
Missing
Recurring Items
* Review past action items.
* Did each person with action items send their status reports to
the board list before the meeting?
* Approve and make sure that minutes of last meeting were published
to foundation-announce and foundation-list.
* Make sure to start up the gobby server for better note taking.
* Update foundation.gnome.org website.
New Items
* LiMo is leaving the GNOME Advisory Board.
* Advisory Board Meeting
o Meeting on Tuesday, February 8th <at> 11:00 a.m. EST.
o GNOME Launch Party Update / bank transfer
o Would like to invite Fred Muller, who drafted the call for
sponsors, to attend the Advisory Board meeting. to present
about GNOME.Asia and GNOME 3 Launch Parties.
o Planned Agenda
+ Hiring Committee Update
# Very high level, no need to discuss names or
numbers. Focus on timing and the process moving
along, when to expect more of an announcement.
+ LiMo Leaving the Advisory Board
+ Desktop Summit
+ GNOME 3 Launch Party
+ Mobile Bid Announcement
+ Event Box
# Thank you to Canonical for providing funding.
# Progress being made putting the Events Box
together, preparing a banner.
+ Marketing Position
+ Upcoming Hackfests.
o Topics for Future Advisory Board Meeting agenda:
+ FoG Update
+ Travel
o ACTION: Paul will send an email to announce the meeting
agenda to the adboard list by Friday.
* Desktop Summit.
o Local meeting Desktop Summit at FOSDEM on Friday at 4pm <at>
hotel lobby.
o ACTION: Andreas will invite Dave Neary to give an update to
the advisory board.
o ACTION: Andreas will find out if the Desktop Summit call
for Sponsors will be ready to present at the advisory board
meeting.
* GNOME 3 Launch Parties
o Over 50 parties have registered.
o http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty
o ACTION: Rosanna will take care of providing funds needed
for production of goodies to be sent to registered parties.
* Marketing Position
o ACTION: Brian will send out an email to marketing-list
about a deadline for resume submission.
* Orca / Software Freedom Conservancy
o Discussions underway. The SFC is working to determine if it
is possible for GNOME projects to join the SFC.
o ACTION: Bastien will email Joanie about options about
whether it makes sense for orca to consider being a
FreeDesktop project.
Completed Actions
* None
Status of action items
* Andreas - Will follow up with Andrew Savory from LiMo to see if
relevant information from their GTK+ study can be made more
public. (will ping again).
* Andreas - To ask Kat if she can reach out to the
gnome-de <at> gnome.org mailing list about finding local German
volunteers to help with the Desktop Summit 2011. (will ping again)
* Andreas - Will send out emails to get more contacts or
suggestions for someone who may be interested in applying.
* Bastien - Will try to find people who can consolidate the
feedback about the Texas Instruments Zoom2 device to provide back
to Texas Instruments.
* Bastien - Will take over the internal review process task from
Diego Urrelo (hopefully he can automate it).
* Bastien - To find a way to automate the process of exporting
results from internal review process and email it to the board.
* Bastien - To discuss the use of badges (a-la Creative Commons,
last.fm page colors, or PSN badges).
* Bastien - To talk to Olav Vitters about using bugzilla to track
Friends of GNOME post card sending.
* Bastien - To get _a_ WebOS/Palm contact from Lennart Poettering.
* Bastien - To contact the BBC to discuss about possible
collaboration in working directly with GNOME.
* Bastien - Will reach out to Dave Richards from the City of Largo
to plan for a hackfest there.
* Bastien - To e-mail Murray about contacting UPS one more time
regarding the lost Event Box.
* Bastien - To e-mail GIMP about changing their website, and
procedure for donating.
* Brian - Develop trademark usage forms for common use cases. James
Vasile from legal is working with Brian on this.
* Brian - Check records of organizations with existing contracts to
use the GNOME trademark. Taken over from Vincent Untz. Look at
the archives in 2005 and try to determine which companies can use
the GNOME trademark. Know what kind of contracts we had with
them. Taken over from Jorge.
* Germán - To discuss with GNOME Hispano about them handling GNOME
Foundation money in Euros (€).
* Germán - To track if the new method of boletos generates more or
less money from Brazil.
* Germán - To have a draft Fiscal Year Budget in October for the
board to review.
* Germán - Will provide an updated budget for review that we'll
plan to send to foundation-list for community review.
* Germán - Will assist with the GNOME 3 as a Foundation goal task
and to help in getting the GNOME 3 as a Foundation Goal survey
topics together. (Handing over to someone else.)
* Og - Update the blog and planet to highlight that people are
expected to sign and follow the GNOME Code of Conduct.
o As per Paul's recommendation, I have emailed Vincent to ask
him what his idea is for doing this.
o Still have not heard back from Vincent Untz
o Still on ToDo.
* Og - Will work to update the GNOME websites to update pages that
refer to Stormy as the Executive Director.
o Still on ToDo.
* Og - To look into Google Checkout as an annual payment option for
FoG.
o Still on ToDo.
* Og - Will email the ED mailing list and ask for an update on how
the hiring process is going, how many applications, etc.
* Og - Will email the foundation-list mailing list with a reminder
of January 12th IRC meeting time details.
* Paul - Will send an email to the foundation-list and the gnucash
list seeking someone to take over the GnuCash automation. Taken
over from Behdad Esfahbod.
* Paul - To start work on next 2011 Annual Report ASAP (due start
FY2012).
* Paul - Will work with Gil Forcada from guifi.net and gnome-
marketing to define the best way for organizations like guifi.net
to participate in the GNOME community. Not many replies from the
community. Diego Urrelo will draft something more concrete for
gnome-marketing to determine the best name and process for
managing this. There was a discussion on the mailing list and a
few good ideas, Diego will wrap them up and send them again for
further comments.
* Paul - Will follow-up with Board to read the Advisory Board fees
for small businesses proposal, ask for feedback and set a date to
vote by.
* Paul - To finish the Privacy Policy, get review from James
Vasile, etc.
* Paul - To review Justin's email about updating trademark
agreements and email the marketing team for feedback.
* Paul - Will follow up with the marketing-list to provide more
details about what sort of work we would like to have done for
the marketing contract.
* Rosanna - Will apply for the GNOME credit card. Status: Filled
out initial application, have appointment next Wednesday with the
bank to continue process.
* Rosanna - Will handle the purchase orders with Google for
GIMP/GStreamer GSoC mentor payments as she has been doing it
already for GNOME.
* Rosanna - Automate the process of entering PayPal information
into GnuCash.
New Action Items
* Andreas - Will invite Dave Neary to give an update to the
advisory board.
* Andreas - Will find out if the Desktop Summit call for Sponsors
will be ready to present at the advisory board meeting.
* Bastien - Will email Joanie about options about whether it makes
sense for orca to consider being a FreeDesktop project.
* Brian - Will send out an email to marketing-list about a deadline
for resume submission.
* Paul - Will send an email to announce the meeting agenda to the
advisory board list by Friday.
* Rosanna - Will take care of providing funds needed for production
of goodies to be sent to registered parties.
Discussed on the mailing list
* Events
o Working to reimburse Francisco Rojas $1,931.33 (USD) for
Día GNOME 2010 costs.
o Planning for upcoming hackfests:
+ Mono
# http://live.gnome.org/GNOME%2BMonoHackfest2010
+ User Help
# http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/UserHelp2011
+ GNOME.Asia and GNOME 3 Launch
# http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011
+ ATK (Accessibility ToolKit)
# http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/ATK2011
+ Zeitgeist Hackfest
#
https://launchpad.net/sprints/zeitgeist-hackfest-2011
+ Sysadmin Hackfest
# http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Sysadmin-SCALE9x
* GNOME 3.0 Bangalore Hackfest | GNOME.Asia Summit 2011:
o Event date confirmed: March 28 to April 2
o Hackfest: March 28 - April 1 (2 days optional + 3 days)
o Conference date: April 2 (1 day + 1 day optional depend on
our budget / number of speakers)
o Officially announced and we can calling for hackers and
speakers
o Friends from the marketing and release team committed to
join us
* Promoting the GNOME 3.0 Global Launch Party with goodies support
o Officially announced on January 21.
o Promotion emails sent to different GNOME mailing lists and
other local communities, social networks as well.
o About 50 launch parties registered and the list seems to be
growing fast.
+ http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty
o Deadline of registration is February 15.
* Discussion with The Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) about
whether it makes sense for GNOME projects like orca to join the
SFC.
o http://conservancy.softwarefreedom.org/
* Discussion about what hardware the GNOME sysadmin team needs.
* Discussion about how to generate better planning within the GNOME
Marketing team to help define what help is needed for GNOME 3.
* Discussion about setting up a Malaysian GNOME Users Group.
* Bastien has been working to track down the Event Box that was
lost by UPS and plans to buy an additional Events Box as they are
needed.
* Bastien took care of responding to a backlog of people who were
sending emails to fundraising <at> gnome.org to ask how to contribute
to GIMP.
* Working out some issues with GNOME domain names, such as renewing
GNOME.Asia. and guadec.org.
* Planning for the GNOME Foundation IRC meeting on Wednesday,
January 26th.
* Planning agenda items for the GNOME Foundation Advisory Board
meeting on Tuesday, February 8th.
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Brian Cameron <brian.cameron <at> oracle.com> wrote:
> * LiMo is leaving the GNOME Advisory Board.
Any details on this? Are they leaving for financial reasons, or
philosophical ones? There's still a big banner on their website
regarding the partnership with Gnome. Did they not just join the
advisory board back in July?
Before I ramble on and jump to erroneous conclusions, can anyone
clarify this a bit please? Thanks,
Greg
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