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Maciej Piechotka | 1 Sep 2008 22:05
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Tasks, Gnome and a few ideas


I've been inspired by http://live.gnome.org/ScratchPad/TheDesktop. I'd like to
see the tasks to replace  the workspace.

I work on several projects/tasks. I have the 'News' section. I have the 'Work'
sectio. They are relativly 'stable' - I have them opened all the time.

However on some projects I work more rarly - for example if I have no important
exam next week. Setting properly the enviroment takes some time and is 
unproductive. Keeping them in-memory waste resources. The problem is also
if I need to restart session/X/computer (new kernel, new memory, new X,
new Gnome).

I'd like to have the 3 modes for each task:
- Active - all programs are running 
- Suspended - most programs are closed but the programs that listen (email
clients, im, news readers) are active so I can see that something changed.
Possibly the active tasks may be GC-ed to this state
- Closed - all programs are closed 

The activation of programs should open them exactly in the proper configuration
(as I left them) - possibly even with unsaved files (they would be saved in
separate location). The creation of task should also be easier then the
workspace.

The main problems:
- Some applications should be split. I want for example the specific messages
in evolution (filter-based) to be displayed in specific task even if the mailbox
is the same.
- What with non-native gnome applications?
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Juraj Vitko | 5 Sep 2008 14:18
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Maximum window list size


Hi everyone,

the option "maximum_size" of the Window List applet was removed a year
ago (http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-panel?view=revision&revision=10483).

So now, if I don't set my panel to "expand", its size changes
depending on how many windows is currently in the Window List applet.
This was possible to prevent by setting the maximum_size of the Window
List applet to a reasonable value.

Basically, what I'd welcome is the possibility to prevent the main
panel from expanding to the whole screen width, when more windows are
added to the Window List.

My usage scenario:
I use a single Gnome panel, in the "top_screen" position, in the
"auto-hide" mode, with "expand" turned off, and with a long hide
interval (5 minutes).
The effect of this is, that the title bar of a maximized application I
currently work with is then hidden behind the panel (which saves about
20 x screen-width pixels of otherwise unused screen estate, as the
relevant portion of the application title bar - the application name -
is already visible in the Window List).
Now with the panel unexpanded, I still have quick access to the left
and right portion of that application's title bar, mainly to the
right-side buttons (minimize, maximize, close).

If this makes any sense to you:) I'd love to have the maximum_size /
minimum_size options added back (not to the UI, just accessible via
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Calum Benson | 8 Sep 2008 16:19
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Re: Maximum window list size


On 5 Sep 2008, at 13:18, Juraj Vitko wrote:

> Basically, what I'd welcome is the possibility to prevent the main
> panel from expanding to the whole screen width, when more windows are
> added to the Window List.

Haven't tried it, but you could probably just add a separator to the  
panel, to the right of the window list. You should then be able to  
drag the separator to the left, to constrain the window list to  
whatever width you like.

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Juraj Vitko | 9 Sep 2008 00:31
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Re: Maximum window list size


Hi Calum,
just tried it, but doesn't work (tried also with two separators) - the
window list simply expands, pushing the separator along with the half
of panel the separator it's on.
Thanks anyway,
J.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Calum Benson <Calum.Benson <at> sun.com> wrote:
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> On 5 Sep 2008, at 13:18, Juraj Vitko wrote:
>
>> Basically, what I'd welcome is the possibility to prevent the main
>> panel from expanding to the whole screen width, when more windows are
>> added to the Window List.
>
> Haven't tried it, but you could probably just add a separator to the panel,
> to the right of the window list. You should then be able to drag the
> separator to the left, to constrain the window list to whatever width you
> like.
>
> Cheeri,
> Calum.
>
> --
> CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer       Sun Microsystems Ireland
> mailto:calum.benson <at> sun.com            GNOME Desktop Team
> http://blogs.sun.com/calum             +353 1 819 9771
>
> Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems
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Calum Benson | 10 Sep 2008 17:49
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Re: Maximum window list size


On 8 Sep 2008, at 23:31, Juraj Vitko wrote:

>
> Hi Calum,
> just tried it, but doesn't work (tried also with two separators) - the
> window list simply expands, pushing the separator along with the half
> of panel the separator it's on.

Ah well.  (Did you try locking the separator to the panel?)

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Andrés G. Aragoneses | 11 Sep 2008 10:57
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totem-devel?


Isn't there a totem-devel mailing list? I wanted to ask some questions 
about gstreamer audiosinks.

Thanks,

	Andrés

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Andrés G. Aragoneses | 11 Sep 2008 12:38
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Playback issue with gnome players, where to report/fix? (was: totem-devel?)


Ok, I've been told to write to gstreamer mailing lists. However, I 
already fixed my issue, but I wanted to help fix it upstream in order to 
avoid the problem for others in the future. The problem is that I don't 
know where it should be fixed.

Please read the message I wrote here for more info, any help is appreciated:

http://www.mail-archive.com/packman <at> links2linux.de/msg01686.html

I'll share this as well with the gstreamer community.

Regards,

	Andrés

Andrés G. Aragoneses wrote:
> Isn't there a totem-devel mailing list? I wanted to ask some questions about gstreamer audiosinks.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>     Andrés
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Juraj Vitko | 11 Sep 2008 14:01
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Re: Maximum window list size


Locking doesn't help either. The panel stretches (grows horizontally)
at the position where the Window List is, so nothing on left or right
side of the Window List can prevent that.

Is there any chance the Window List could be limited to a maximum
and/or minimum width by resurrecting the old gconf options? (Setting
them to -1 to disable this.)

Would it help if I provided a patch?

I've seen more users want this, altough not an overhelming number.

Here is screenshot of the usability scenario I'm talking about in the
original email:
http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=examplelt7.png

Thanks,
J.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Calum Benson <Calum.Benson <at> sun.com> wrote:
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> On 8 Sep 2008, at 23:31, Juraj Vitko wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Calum,
>> just tried it, but doesn't work (tried also with two separators) - the
>> window list simply expands, pushing the separator along with the half
>> of panel the separator it's on.
>
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Stefan Kost | 12 Sep 2008 13:59
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Re: totem-devel?


hi,

there is gstreamer-devel <at> lists.sourceforge.net

Stefan

Andrés G. Aragoneses schrieb:
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> Isn't there a totem-devel mailing list? I wanted to ask some questions 
> about gstreamer audiosinks.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>     Andrés
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Anthony Edward Cooper | 14 Sep 2008 10:07

Help On Help Please


    Hello,

    I am currently developing an application called mtn-browse. It uses 
Perl Gtk2 bindings. Everything has worked out fine so far apart from I 
cannot get the help working. It is probably something fairly basic that 
I am doing wrong but I can't find any help on the matter (only other 
people having the same problem).

    Details:
       OS: WhiteBox Linux Respin 1 (RedHat AS4U3 clone, i686).
       Ver: Gtk: 1.2.10 Gnome: 1.4.1.2 (as given by gtk-config --version 
and gnome-config --version)

    Why an older version? 1) I started developing this for work (will be 
published under GPL3) and they use RHAS4U2. 2) I wanted to reach a wider 
audience rather than go with the bleeding edge so to speak).

    I initialise the app with:

        Gnome2::Program->init("mtn-browse", 0.51);

    and call up help with:

        Gnome2::Help->display("mtn-browse.xml");

    and I get on stderr:

Gnome-WARNING **: gnome-program.c:987: Directory properties not set 
correctly.  Cannot locate application specific files. at ./mtn-browse
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