Boston dates?

Hey,

What are the dates of Boston this year? I assume the usual Canadian
Thanksgiving / American Columbus Day "second weekend of October" weekend
which would be 8/9/10 Oct — but the BostonSummit page on the wiki
doesn't say anything about 2010.

AfC
Sydney

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Re: Boston dates?

I should update the page.  Thanks for pointing it out.  I blogged about it a month ago -
http://www.j5live.com/2010/07/08/boston-summit-update/.  We have confirmed rooms at MIT for
November 6th-8th which piggybacks the Linux Plumbers conference.  Since then there has been some back and
forth about the costs they later quoted us and the person helping us out assured us that she can get us space
at little or no cost for those dates (we usually get it gratis).   I haven't heard back from her so I haven't
made the official announcement.  I'll be back in the US on the 3rd and will hopefully be able to nail things
down soon after.

----- "Andrew Cowie" <andrew <at> operationaldynamics.com> wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> What are the dates of Boston this year? I assume the usual Canadian
> Thanksgiving / American Columbus Day "second weekend of October"
> weekend
> which would be 8/9/10 Oct — but the BostonSummit page on the wiki
> doesn't say anything about 2010.
> 
> AfC
> Sydney
> 
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Re: GNOME 3.0 in March 2011

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 11:22 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> 2010/7/30 Johannes Schmid <jhs <at> jsschmid.de>:
> > Hi!
> >
> >> Something like "If you wrote a python plugin for GEdit/Rhythmbox/Totem
> >> then you need to rewrite/fix it to use pygobject gobject-introspection
> >> if you want it to work on GNOME 2.32 and GNOME 3.0"?
> >
> > Wouldn't it be more useful to just release a gedit 2.30.5 for 2.32 and
> > focus on getting all this plugin porting stuff done for 3.0 in a clean
> > way?
> 
> +1 !!!!
> 
> I don't get why people is getting so upset about the delay,

Probably because the "people" either support GNOME for a distribution,
or maintain loads of modules in the GNOME release set. Or both.

>  IMHO I
> think we should just release whatever was in 2.30 with critical
> bugfixes and whatnot and push forward for 3.0 in master.

Re: GNOME 3.0 in March 2011

2010/8/1 Bastien Nocera <hadess <at> hadess.net>:
>> +1 !!!!
>>
>> I don't get why people is getting so upset about the delay,
>
> Probably because the "people" either support GNOME for a distribution,
> or maintain loads of modules in the GNOME release set. Or both.

That doesn't really answer the question, I'm not assuming that
maintainer's job is piece of cake.
My question is, why does releasing 2.30 + backporting critical
bugfixes not cut it for 2.32? It is a lot of less work than trying to
release a hybrid version of apps that are in the middle of being 3.0
and 2.x

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Re: GNOME 3.0 in March 2011

On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 20:42 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> 2010/8/1 Bastien Nocera <hadess <at> hadess.net>:
> >> +1 !!!!
> >>
> >> I don't get why people is getting so upset about the delay,
> >
> > Probably because the "people" either support GNOME for a distribution,
> > or maintain loads of modules in the GNOME release set. Or both.
> 
> That doesn't really answer the question, I'm not assuming that
> maintainer's job is piece of cake.

Right.

> My question is, why does releasing 2.30 + backporting critical
> bugfixes not cut it for 2.32? It is a lot of less work than trying to
> release a hybrid version of apps that are in the middle of being 3.0
> and 2.x

Vincent already mentioned the 3 possibilities of actions that
application developers can take.

For apps that already support GTK2 and GTK3, they'll probably release
what they have as 2.32.

For apps that are well into GTK3 porting, it'll be 2.30 + bug fixes.

If you've done neither, you'll release what you have for 2.32, and start
working on GTK3 support (and the rest of the GNOME3 TODO list) now-ish.

GNOME 2.31.6 unstable tarballs due

Hi,

We're right after GUADEC, and it's already time to start releasing
tarballs again! Apparently, we were not joking with this "Now go
back to work " slide... Now, someone will point out the release
team should have gone back to work earlier since this mail is late.
Right, right, small detail. That's because we enjoyed GUADEC and the
Hague too much! Oh, nobody had noticed this until this mail? Oops 

Tarballs are due on Monday August 2nd before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME
2.31.6 Development Release, which will be delivered on Wednesday.

Please make sure that your tarballs will be uploaded before Monday
23:59 UTC: tarballs uploaded later than that will probably be too late
to get in 2.31.6. If you are not able to make a tarball before this
deadline or if you think you'll be late, please send a mail to the
release team and we'll find someone to roll the tarball for you!

For more informations about 2.31, the full schedule and the official
module lists, please see our colorful 2.31 page on the wiki:
   http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable

For a quick overview of the GNOME schedule, please see:
   http://live.gnome.org/Schedule

Thanks,

Vincent

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API/ABI freeze and feature freeze

Hi,

Starting this week, we enter the API/ABI freeze and the feature freeze.

If you are not sure what they are about exactly there is this page for
you: http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/Freezes (and you should
certainly not hesitate to ask).

Future freezes:

  + UI Freeze, starting August 16th
  + String Freeze, starting August 30th
  + Hard Code Freeze, starting September 13th

The freezes will always be listed on this wiki page:
    http://live.gnome.org/Schedule

Vincent

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Re: Boston dates?

From: Andrew Cowie <andrew <at> operationaldynamics.com>

> What are the dates of Boston this year? I assume the usual Canadian
> Thanksgiving / American Columbus Day "second weekend of October" weekend
> which would be 8/9/10 Oct ― but the BostonSummit page on the wiki
> doesn't say anything about 2010.

I suppose that it is mostly because the exact date is still on the
air.

Last update about it [1]

[1] http://www.j5live.com/2010/07/08/boston-summit-update/

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Re: GNOME 3.0 in March 2011

Le jeudi 29 juillet 2010 à 13:16 +0200, Jonh Wendell a écrit :
> Em Qui, 2010-07-29 às 12:55 +0200, Vincent Untz escreveu:
> 
> >  + your module has been ported to GTK+ 3: that's the case which is
> >    causing concerns. We explicitly do *not* want people to just go back
> >    to GTK+ 2 (that would be a regression towards GNOME 3). There are
> >    three solutions:
> > 
> >    - add a --enable-gtk=2.0/3.0 configure flag: for some modules, it's
> >      really easy to do and it's enough. Frédéric did it for a few
> >      modules, and here's an example in gcalctool:
> >      http://git.gnome.org/browse/gcalctool/commit/?id=a2250ad2
> > 
> >    - just release a new 2.30.x release with additional fixes: this is
> >      perfectly fine, especially if the development in master is
> >      explicitly targerted at GNOME 3. A good example here is gedit.
> > 
> >    - create a gnome-2-32 branch out of the gnome-2-30 branch: you can do
> >      this to achieve the same result as the previous option, but you can
> >      also backport fixes that imply string/ui changes this way.
> 
> I plan not to release 2.32 versions of vino/vinagre. Instead, I'll just
> release 3.0 betas. So, I'm not subject to the freezes right?

This is going to be an issue for the "Share my desktop" feature has
Empathy 2.31.x relies on changes I've done in Vino master.

	G.

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help needed for a prototype

Hi all

Currently I'm thinking of a possibility to use the desktop as a
reflection of my thoughts and work instead of a simple background image
with bookmarks on it. Therefore I would like to display these items in a
semantic network directly on my desktop. It would also function as
dashboard and central control panel, where I can start applications and
open files, always in the context of a project and not in a global menu
or file hierarchy. The  backend software I would use for this is called
DeepaMehta (http://www.deepamehta.de), but that's only my personal
preference as a knowledge worker. More generally spoken, I think it
would be a good idea if there was a possibility to replace the
background image with the application mostly used (be it eclipse, a mail
client, rhythmbox or you say what).

Since I'm no GNOME developer I'm looking for help. I don't know if there
already exists an API for this. But in any case I think it would be best
to build a prototype first to see if it works and what unexpected
problems arise.

Furthermore, comments on this idea are welcome. I really would love to
see my vision come true.

Best
Urs

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