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Jacob Perkins | 1 Nov 2002 01:39
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Re: [Fwd: Happy Halloween from 5th toe the new version.]

Ok, screenshots are at http://seahorse.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
and requirements are listed at
http://seahorse.sourceforge.net/download.html.
Besides gnome2, one needs gnupg 1.2 or later to use and gpgme 0.3.10 or
later if compiling.
Is that enough info?
Not every window or dialog has a screenshot since some are in a state of
flux.

> Same questions as for drivel. Screenshots? Pointers on requirements,
> etc. I didn't know there was still active development on seahorse, it's
> good to see it's not dead, and a Gnome2 app :)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -- 
> /Bastien Nocera
> http://hadess.net
> 
> Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add, but
> when
> there is no longer anything to take away.
> 						Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Bill Haneman | 1 Nov 2002 05:32
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Re: Happy Halloween from 5th toe the new version.

Hi:

I'd like to suggest that gok, the GNOME Onscreen Keyboard, be included
in fifth toe for 2.2 (provided that's still OK with the GOK team at the
University of Toronto).  It was previously proposed that GOK and
gnopernicus (the integrated screenreader and magnifier from our BAUM
contributors) be included in the 2.2 desktop release, but timing is
probably not right for that.  However I think that inclusion of GOK in
Fifth Toe makes a lot of sense, with a view towards maybe migrating it
into the desktop later on.  GOK is, I believe, feature complete (at
least for a 1.0 version) and should be stable enough for 2.2's Fifth
Toe.

GOK makes it possible for people with serious mobility disorders (such
as Cerebral Palsy, paralysis, and neuromuscular problems of various
kinds) to use the GNOME desktop by means of switches and/or
head-pointers and other devices other than normal keyboards.

thanks,

Bill
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Bill Haneman | 1 Nov 2002 05:34
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Re: Happy Halloween from 5th toe the new version.

Regarding GOK's candidacy for inclusion into 2.2's Fifth Toe, if we need
a tarball for the current release, perhaps someone at UT could prepare
it today (since I am still in China) ?

thanks

Bill
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Jonathan Blandford | 1 Nov 2002 08:22
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Re: GEP-2 Theme Sets (aka Metathemer)

Jeff Waugh <jdub <at> perkypants.org> writes:

> <quote who="Bill Haneman"/>
> 
> > On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 17:01, Calum Benson wrote:
> > 
> > > http://developer.gnome.org/gep/gep-2.html
> > 
> > I take it that it's too late to put the implementation (presuming
> > agreement is reached on the requirements) in 2.2's feature list, even if
> > we got the implementation UI done by API/UI freeze?
> 
> By my very rough count, you have about 48 hours to get it in and proposed.

I thought I'd give this a shot.

I read through the gep and tried to implement a metatheme selector for
the control-center for 2.2.  I really, really didn't want to go another
release without having some form of themeballs in GNOME, and am hoping
we can get a working solution out of this.  I put two screenshots of my
attempt up at:

  http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/newtheme3.png
  http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/newtheme4.png
  (the second shot admittedly needs a little love)

Code available at:
  http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/gnome-theme-manager.diff

Basic Approach:
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Mattias Eriksson | 1 Nov 2002 10:58
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SV: [Fwd: Happy Halloween from 5th toe the new version.]

I'd like to see tcslient (a frontend for rdesktop) included in 5th toe,
I have just played a little with it but it's quite nice.

http://www.gnomepro.com/tsclient/

//Snaggen
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Joergen Scheibengruber | 1 Nov 2002 13:57
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Re: [Fwd: Happy Halloween from 5th toe the new version.]

Am Don, 2002-10-31 um 21.41 schrieb Will LaShell:
> Arg!  I need to get the stupid mail list name right
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Greetings everyone!
> 
> So, as we are nearing the feature freeze point and Bastien and I finally
> are clear schedule wise, I've compiled a list of the original
> applications considered for entry into GNOME 5th toe.  Here is the list
> the I'd like to use to start building up the basis for the new 5th toe
> releases.
> 
> Multimedia:
> -----------
> gthumb 
> gnomemeeting
> gstreamer
> gst-player 
> rhythmbox ( We will need monkey media etc for this, too )
> gimp ( I know its not a gnome app  but it's always been here )

What do you think of adding gnomeradio? (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio -
it's a fm tuner app).

Jörgen
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ERDI Gergo | 1 Nov 2002 14:45

Re: [Fwd: Happy Halloween from 5th toe the new version.]

On 1 Nov 2002, Joergen Scheibengruber wrote:

> What do you think of adding gnomeradio? (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio -
> it's a fm tuner app).

Wow, looks way better than my RadioActive.

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Bill Gribble | 1 Nov 2002 15:05

Re: Happy Halloween from 5th toe the new version.

On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 22:32, Bill Haneman wrote:
> I'd like to suggest that gok, the GNOME Onscreen Keyboard, be included
> in fifth toe for 2.2 (provided that's still OK with the GOK team at the
> University of Toronto).  

I'd like to second this on totally non-accessibility grounds.  Tablet
PCs with touchscreens aren't *that* widespread now, but currently GNOME
doesn't serve those of us well who have them.  An onscreen keyboard
would help a lot.  

The other main utility that would help is an applet equivalent to
"xmonobut", a button-click remapper (touchscreen clicks are Button1
only).  There's also xstroke (graffiti-like fullscreen handwriting
recognizer) but let's not get ahead of ourselves :) 

I would guess that xmonobut would also be useful for accessibility
purposes. 

b.g.
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Jim.Gettys | 1 Nov 2002 15:18
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Re: Happy Halloween from 5th toe the new version.

While on this topic....

I just want to bring to the attention of this list that
Carl Worth has developed a very nice stroke recognizer we
use on the iPAQ touch screens; implementes roughly Graffitti
with some enhancements.

I don't think it is a gtk app right now and therefore not a candidate 
for Fifth toe, but this should be a simple exercise to the readers.

It does whole screen recognition, and does alphablending
of the stroke path using Render.

We certainly need such apps now that tablets are upon us,
even if xstroke (the version we use right now) might not
be usable as is for large tablets.

Source is in the handhelds.org cvs.
				- Jim

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Jim Gettys
Cambridge Research Laboratory
HP Labs, Hewlett-Packard Company
Jim.Gettys <at> hp.com
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Jody Goldberg | 1 Nov 2002 15:51
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Re: GEP-2 Theme Sets (aka Metathemer)

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 02:22:09AM -0500, Jonathan Blandford wrote:
> 
> Code available at:
>   http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/gnome-theme-manager.diff
Bring it on.  Lets get something in place then debate the details.
This looks close enough to something most people are willing to
accept.

> I thought about having a separate gconf key for a 'metatheme' spec, but
> it just didn't make sense.  What does it mean when your metatheme key is
> 'thinice' but your gtk-theme key is 'metal'?  Consequentially,
> metathemes are implemented solely as a list of theme elements found in
> subdirectories of the theme path.  To this extent, I just made up a
> .desktop file format that includes all the elements of the theme.
And you chose define 'current theme' as the first thing where
everything matches ?  This could cause problems if some accidentally
installs the same theme with multiple names.  They select B and we
say 'ok thanks for selecting A'.

> This means that when you don't match any metatheme exactly, you're in an
> inbetween state.  I'm currently listing this in the UI as 'Currently
> modified',
'Custom' ?

> Anyway, I haven't checked the code in yet, as I'd like to run it by this
> list first.  Still, I think this is important to have, and will be
> spending this weekend the next week at work making sure it functions
> well.
I'd very much like to see this go in.
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