Some questions

Hi,
I'm using Seahorse 3.2.2 with Fedora 16.
I admit that I don't know anything about seahorse or gnome keyrings.
I have some questions though. I don't understand why its not possible
to move a password from one keyring to another within seahorse.
Furthermore shouldn't programs that use seahorse plugins, give me an
option of what keyring to save passwords in. I am saying this because
some information, such as banking passwords, I would like to keep
in a separate keyring that's locked 99% of the time, and the login
keyring is unlocked the whole time i'm logged in. (I do this this,
but I had to unpassword protect and manually manipulate the keyring
files which seemed unsatisfactory)

Please tell me if I am misunderstanding things and what
documentation i should read to get a correct understanding.

With thanks,
  Mike W.

Some questions

Hi mailing list,
Sorry if you end up geting this message twice. I sent essentially the
same message without subscribing first and I don't know where that went.

I'm using Seahorse 3.2.2 with Fedora 16.
I admit that I don't know anything about seahorse or gnome keyrings.
I have some questions though. I don't understand why its not possible
to move a password from one keyring to another within seahorse.
Furthermore shouldn't programs that use seahorse plugins, give me an
option of what keyring to save passwords in (this isn't
necessarily a seahorse problem per se but its a related
ecosystem problem which isn't addressed in any program that I use,
such as evolution, epiphany, pigdin, you name it). 
I am saying this because
some information, such as banking passwords, I would like to keep
in a separate keyring that's locked 99% of the time, and the login
keyring is unlocked the whole time i'm logged in. (I did manage to do this,
but I had to unpassword protect and manually manipulate the keyring
files which seemed unsatisfactory).

Should I just set another keyring to be the default one (which won't
be auto-unlocked at login) and go with that? If i am supposed to do
something like this for heightened security it seems like a copout
when I can't just choose between keyrings when saving passwords
(which is what I *should* be able to do).

Please tell me if I am misunderstanding things and, if so, what
documentation i should read to get a correct understanding of the
overall security model.

ANNOUNCE: seahorse 3.4.1

Seahorse is the GNOME application for managing encryption keys and
passwords. This is an stable release.

Highlights between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1:
===================================

 * Fix crash during failed HKP exports
 * Fix memory errors when searching for keys
 * Updated translations
 * Build fixes

Details between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1:
================================

Ahmad Gharbeia (1):
      Updated Arabic translation

Andika Triwidada (1):
      [l10n] Updated Indonesian translation

Aurimas Černius (1):
      Updated Lithuanian translation

Bruce Cowan (1):
      Updated British English translation

Carles Ferrando (1):
      [l10n]Updated Catalan (Valencian) translation

Chandan Kumar (1):

ANNOUNCE: libcryptui 3.4.1

libcryptui is a library used to list GnuPG keys. It is gradually being
replaced by the GCR library, and will soon be deprecated.

This is a stable release.

Changes between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1:
================================

 * Better build of .service files

Detailed change log between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1:
============================================

Stef Walter (2):
      Better build of .service files
      Release 3.4.1

Downloads:
==========

http://download.gnome.org/sources/libcryptui/3.4/

fad4addf5c5b6588f492a720edce59f925190e4cdf3672984f53b25327f10fd5
libcryptui-3.4.1.tar.xz

Cheers,

Stef Walter

Is there any way to kill a seahorse?

(Sorry for the troll -- it's taken me waaaaay too much
time to chase down who is responsible for asking
me over and over and over again to provide my password.)

I didn't ask for it and there is no plainly obvious way.
That is a crummy way to treat your customers.
I am looking for a clean, big, bright button saying, "DISABLE"
and it is not to be found.  Also, the name "seahorse" is
a ridiculously obscure project name for some anonymous window
that keeps popping up demanding attention from anything else
I might happen to be doing.

I am sure you have no idea
about how appallingly awful I consider an unstoppable intrusive
interface to be.  I do not want anything to pop up and disable
my desktop until I've typed in a password.  That is what login
is all about.  I always configure my ssh targets to accept my
varying public keys, so once I'm logged in I have no need to
type passwords again, except for this horrid little Gnomey thingy
that seizes my desktop until I've dismissed it.  Please be kind
enough to do two things:

1. tell me how to kill the little bugger fully dead so I never
    see it ever again, and

2. put a button on that pop-up window that offers the same thing
    to folks who are not persistent enough to chase down the cause.

There's supposed to be a list of apps to start at Gnome startup,
but search as I might through ~/.local and ~/.gnome2, I sure cannot

no saving of passphrases

Firstly,

Thanks!

Secondly, I have a major issue with seahorse-agent on Linux Mint. When I run Encryption and
Keyrings then select PGP Passphrases - Remember PGP Passphrases it states that "A supported
PGP passphrase caching agent is not running.

When I run from a terminal seahorse-agent I get "**Message: Another GPG agent already running."

I ran Top to see what was running - nothing. In my start-up environment I have:

Certificate and Key Storage - Gnome Keyring: PKCS#11 Component
Secrete Storage Service: Gnome keyring: Secret Service
SSH Key Agent: Gnome Keyring: SSH Agent.

I am at a loss - I even reinstalled seahorse!

Any suggestions would be appreciated

David

--

-- 
“See the sanity of the man! No gods, no angels, no demons, no body. Nothing of the kind.
Stern, sane,every brain-cell perfect and complete even at the moment of death. No delusion.”

_______________________________________________

ANNOUNCEMENT: seahorse 3.4.0

Seahorse is the GNOME application for managing encryption keys and
passwords. This is an stable release.

Highlights between 3.2.x and 3.4.0:
===================================

  * Redesign the user interface, with an optional sidebar that shows
    all the places for keys to be stored
  * If multiple keys with some label in signer list, add hex keyid
  * Remove limitation of max keyring item description characters
  * Support for PKCS#11 key generation
  * Support for creating certificate requests
  * Certificate actions happen from certificate window.
  * Add ability to lock and unlock places from the sidebar
  * Implement login to smart cards and PKCS#11 tokens
  * Listing of private keys on smart cards and PKCS#11 tokens
  * Showing matching keys and certificates together, in listing and
    properties
  * Asynchronously initialize PKCS#11 modules
  * Use the new importer infrastructure in libgcr
  * Blacklist certain PKCS#11 tokens from showing up in seahorse
  * Builder, crasher, and other fixes

Details between 3.2.x and 3.4.0:
================================

A S Alam (2):
       update Punjabi Translation
       update Punjabi Translation

ANNOUNCE: libcryptui 3.4.0

libcryptui is a library used to list GnuPG keys. It is gradually being
replaced by the GCR library, and will soon be deprecated.

This is a stable release.

Changes between 3.2.x and 3.4.0:
================================

  * Add explicit dependency on libSM and libICE, needed for XSMP client
  * Updated translations

Detailed change log between 3.2.x and 3.4.0:
============================================

Mario Blättermann (1):
       [l10n] Updated German translation

Piotr Drąg (1):
       Convert Malay translation to UTF-8

Stef Walter (5):
       Merge branch 'gnome-3-2'
       Release 3.3.5
       Add configure dependency on libSM and libICE
       Release 3.3.91
       Release 3.4.0

Downloads:
==========

decrypting a keyring file

Suppose I had a keyring file from a ~/.gnome2/keyrings directory that
was encrypted and I knew the passphrase for it but didn't have an actual
gnome system I could drop it onto to let the keyring daemon read it.

How could I decrypt the file to get the contents out?  I'm not adverse
to development so even code snippets or algorithm pointers would be most
welcome.

Cheers,
b.

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Seahorse locks my desktop

Hello,

GNU Emacs' interface to GPG calls "gpg2" which, since GPG_AGENT_INFO 
refers to "seahorse", is run with the "--use-agent" option, and thus 
calls Seahorse.

If by accident I switch to another (fullscreen) window while Seahorse is 
running, I can't switch back to Seahorse's window anymore (Alt-Tab does 
not work), and to all effects, my desktop is locked and I have no option 
other than to force shutdown by keeping the power button pressed for 6 
seconds.

Is there any way around this?  I can't find any after having read 
"seahorse --help", "seahorse --help-gtk", "man seahorse", "info 
seahorse" and searched the Internet.

Thank you.

Seahorse locks my desktop

[I've cancelled the sending of this message to add some info about my 
system.  I apologize if it gets sent twice.]

Hello,

GNU Emacs' interface to GnuPG calls "gpg2" which, since GPG_AGENT_INFO 
refers to "seahorse", is run with the "--use-agent" option, and thus 
calls Seahorse.

If by accident I switch to another (fullscreen) window while Seahorse is 
running, I can't switch back to Seahorse's window anymore (Alt-Tab does 
not work), and to all effects, my desktop is locked and I have no option 
other than to force shutdown by keeping the power button pressed for 6 
seconds.

Is there any way around this?  I can't find any after having read 
"seahorse --help", "seahorse --help-gtk", "man seahorse", "info 
seahorse" and searched the Internet.

Thank you.

Software:
- Seahorse version: 2.30.1
- GnuPG version: 2.0.17
- Debian GNU/Linux version: 6.0.3
- Gnome Version: 2.30.2
- Kernel version: Linux debian 2.6.32-5-686