Piñeiro | 7 Apr 12:16 2011

Fwd: Planning features for 3.2

As you see it is not only about parties about GNOME 3.0, it is also about planning GNOME 3.2

There is already a accessibility section there, so it would be good to fill it up.

In the same way, we need to decide the relation between this and our beloved GNOME3 page.

https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/GNOME3

Probably just updating it to clarify that it is the missing things towards GNOME 3.2 would be enough. We can talk about that on the accessibility meeting.

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Planning features for 3.2
Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:02:22 +0530
Frederic Peters <fpeters <at> gnome.org>
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Hello all, Have you partied enough already? Are you eager to start tackling 3.2? If we follow our usual schedule, we will have 3.1.1 in one month. Instead of hurrying back to our tools I'd like to propose to spend some of the month planning for features, especially in the areas where cross module cooperation is required. From Matthias email and others I started assembling a very minimalistic list of potential features, http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne/Features The pages are currently mostly empty shells, there are currently four sections, "description", "involved parties", "current status", and "how to help"; certainly people with experience from working on the Fedora feature pages, or the Ubuntu blueprints, will have ideas and can restructure those. Of course you are also free to add new pages, but do note this is not a "brainstorm"-type place, in fact I think at some point we will want to "freeze" the set of features (but when? in one month?). I believe it is really important to get on it soon, to assemble teams, with people from the different projects, designers & developers; we are still using a six month schedule, this doesn't give us a lot of time... So please go on those pages, and if you feel concerned by a particular feature, go and edit it. Cheers, it's still time to enjoy 3.0, Frederic [this list of features is UX oriented, we still have the GNOME goals for more technical stuff] _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list <at> gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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Michael Meeks | 8 Apr 20:32 2011
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Re: Helgrind results for LO


On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:42 +0100, Caolán McNamara wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 11:39 +0100, Caolán McNamara wrote:
> > I've got visibility enabled in my desktop env and so a goodly chunk of
> > the /memcheck/ warnings are in the gnome a11y stack, something which I've
> > always some dubious feelings about.

	:-) So - I had a quick poke. I am guessing that you're using at-spi2,
which I eventually found in gnome-git, moved from freedesktop moved from
codethink [ I assume ;-] - that could be made more find-able I think.

	I pushed a couple of trivial patches to at-spi2-core and at-spi2-atk to
stop the leaks, should be there in the next stable iteration I hope.

	Traces appended,

	HTH,

		Michael.

==9540== 3 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 19 of 5,980
==9540==    at 0x4A0640D: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:236)
==9540==    by 0x354FE49980: g_malloc (gmem.c:164)
==9540==    by 0x354FE6024D: g_strdup (gstrfuncs.c:102)
==9540==    by 0x14C8C86B: text_wrapper_get_text (atktext.cxx:305)
==9540==    by 0x15AEACFF: ??? (in /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so)
==9540==    by 0x3550A1EA9A: signal_emit_unlocked_R (gsignal.c:3218)
==9540==    by 0x3550A28971: g_signal_emit_valist (gsignal.c:2983)
==9540==    by 0x3550A28CFC: g_signal_emit_by_name (gsignal.c:3077)
==9540==    by 0x14C892BC:
AtkListener::notifyEvent(com::sun::star::accessibility::AccessibleEventObject const&) (atklistener.cxx:435)

and

==9540== 73 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 3,687 of 5,980
==9540==    at 0x4A0640D: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:236)
==9540==    by 0x354FE49980: g_malloc (gmem.c:164)
==9540==    by 0x354FE6024D: g_strdup (gstrfuncs.c:102)
==9540==    by 0x15D17168: atspi_get_a11y_bus (in /usr/lib64/libatspi.so.0.0.1)
==9540==    by 0x15AE7E2C: ??? (in /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so)
==9540==    by 0x3DB0D6B420: default_display_notify_cb (gtkmodules.c:439)
==9540==    by 0x3550A0E2ED: g_closure_invoke (gclosure.c:767)
==9540==    by 0x3550A1F19F: signal_emit_unlocked_R (gsignal.c:3252)

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Nischal Rao | 13 Apr 15:21 2011
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2 instance of at-spi-registryd running

Hi,

I was looking at the system processes running on my system and found that there are 2 instances of at-spi-registryd running. Also whenever I shutdown my system I get the message that it is unable to shut at-spi-registryd.

Attached is a screenshot. Is it a known issue or should I file a bug?

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Mike Gorse | 13 Apr 15:51 2011

Re: 2 instance of at-spi-registryd running

Is this at-spi-registryd or at-spi2-registryd, and are both running as the 
same user?

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Nischal Rao wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I was looking at the system processes running on my system and found that there are 2 instances of
at-spi-registryd running. Also whenever I shutdown my system I get the
> message that it is unable to shut at-spi-registryd.
> 
> Attached is a screenshot. Is it a known issue or should I file a bug?
> 
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> Nischal E Rao
> 
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> 
>
Nischal Rao | 13 Apr 16:08 2011
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Re: 2 instance of at-spi-registryd running

It is at-spi-registryd and both were running as the same user. I restarted the system and it is no longer reproducible. I will keep a watch on this.

By the way I have disabled at-spi-corba in gconf but still I get at-spi-registry and not at-spi2-registryd. Have I missed something here??

Thanks & Regards,
Nischal E Rao

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Mike Gorse <mgorse <at> alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
Is this at-spi-registryd or at-spi2-registryd, and are both running as the same user?


On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Nischal Rao wrote:

Hi,

I was looking at the system processes running on my system and found that there are 2 instances of at-spi-registryd running. Also whenever I shutdown my system I get the
message that it is unable to shut at-spi-registryd.

Attached is a screenshot. Is it a known issue or should I file a bug?

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Nischal Rao | 13 Apr 16:11 2011
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Re: 2 instance of at-spi-registryd running

Another thing I noticed, if I try to kill at-spi-registryd it restarts itself again. Is this the right behavior?

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Nischal Rao <rao.nischal <at> gmail.com> wrote:
It is at-spi-registryd and both were running as the same user. I restarted the system and it is no longer reproducible. I will keep a watch on this.

By the way I have disabled at-spi-corba in gconf but still I get at-spi-registry and not at-spi2-registryd. Have I missed something here??

Thanks & Regards,
Nischal E Rao


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Mike Gorse <mgorse <at> alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
Is this at-spi-registryd or at-spi2-registryd, and are both running as the same user?


On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Nischal Rao wrote:

Hi,

I was looking at the system processes running on my system and found that there are 2 instances of at-spi-registryd running. Also whenever I shutdown my system I get the
message that it is unable to shut at-spi-registryd.

Attached is a screenshot. Is it a known issue or should I file a bug?

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Li Yuan | 14 Apr 04:53 2011
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Re: 2 instance of at-spi-registryd running

Yes, this is what it is supposed to do.

Li

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Nischal Rao <rao.nischal <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Another thing I noticed, if I try to kill at-spi-registryd it restarts itself again. Is this the right behavior?


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Nischal Rao <rao.nischal <at> gmail.com> wrote:
It is at-spi-registryd and both were running as the same user. I restarted the system and it is no longer reproducible. I will keep a watch on this.

By the way I have disabled at-spi-corba in gconf but still I get at-spi-registry and not at-spi2-registryd. Have I missed something here??

Thanks & Regards,
Nischal E Rao


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Mike Gorse <mgorse <at> alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
Is this at-spi-registryd or at-spi2-registryd, and are both running as the same user?


On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Nischal Rao wrote:

Hi,

I was looking at the system processes running on my system and found that there are 2 instances of at-spi-registryd running. Also whenever I shutdown my system I get the
message that it is unable to shut at-spi-registryd.

Attached is a screenshot. Is it a known issue or should I file a bug?

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Li Yuan | 14 Apr 04:56 2011
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Re: 2 instance of at-spi-registryd running

at-spi-registry will quit itself if:
1. it is relocated and CORBA_GCONF_KEY is FALSE
2. it is not relocated and DBUS_GCONF_KEY is TRUE.

Regards,
Li

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Nischal Rao <rao.nischal <at> gmail.com> wrote:
It is at-spi-registryd and both were running as the same user. I restarted the system and it is no longer reproducible. I will keep a watch on this.

By the way I have disabled at-spi-corba in gconf but still I get at-spi-registry and not at-spi2-registryd. Have I missed something here??

Thanks & Regards,
Nischal E Rao


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Mike Gorse <mgorse <at> alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
Is this at-spi-registryd or at-spi2-registryd, and are both running as the same user?


On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Nischal Rao wrote:

Hi,

I was looking at the system processes running on my system and found that there are 2 instances of at-spi-registryd running. Also whenever I shutdown my system I get the
message that it is unable to shut at-spi-registryd.

Attached is a screenshot. Is it a known issue or should I file a bug?

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Nischal Rao | 14 Apr 10:01 2011
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Re: 2 instance of at-spi-registryd running

There is another thing I noticed. When I open accerciser, I see many applications named as "<unknown>" which can sometimes cause problem with some assistive technologies (I guess there is a very old bug reported on this). But when I kill the at-spi-registryd (and after it gets restarted automatically) I see that all those elements (the <unknown>s) are gone. If I relogin, I find some of those <unknown>s again. Does that mean there is a problem with the login process when it comes to a11y?

Thanks & Regards,
Nischal E Rao

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Li Yuan <liyuan <at> gnome.org> wrote:
at-spi-registry will quit itself if:
1. it is relocated and CORBA_GCONF_KEY is FALSE
2. it is not relocated and DBUS_GCONF_KEY is TRUE.

Regards,
Li


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Nischal Rao <rao.nischal <at> gmail.com> wrote:
It is at-spi-registryd and both were running as the same user. I restarted the system and it is no longer reproducible. I will keep a watch on this.

By the way I have disabled at-spi-corba in gconf but still I get at-spi-registry and not at-spi2-registryd. Have I missed something here??

Thanks & Regards,
Nischal E Rao


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Mike Gorse <mgorse <at> alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
Is this at-spi-registryd or at-spi2-registryd, and are both running as the same user?


On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Nischal Rao wrote:

Hi,

I was looking at the system processes running on my system and found that there are 2 instances of at-spi-registryd running. Also whenever I shutdown my system I get the
message that it is unable to shut at-spi-registryd.

Attached is a screenshot. Is it a known issue or should I file a bug?

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Li Yuan | 14 Apr 10:10 2011
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Re: 2 instance of at-spi-registryd running

Can Orca work with these unknown applications?

Li

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Nischal Rao <rao.nischal <at> gmail.com> wrote:
There is another thing I noticed. When I open accerciser, I see many applications named as "<unknown>" which can sometimes cause problem with some assistive technologies (I guess there is a very old bug reported on this). But when I kill the at-spi-registryd (and after it gets restarted automatically) I see that all those elements (the <unknown>s) are gone. If I relogin, I find some of those <unknown>s again. Does that mean there is a problem with the login process when it comes to a11y?


Thanks & Regards,
Nischal E Rao

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Li Yuan <liyuan <at> gnome.org> wrote:
at-spi-registry will quit itself if:
1. it is relocated and CORBA_GCONF_KEY is FALSE
2. it is not relocated and DBUS_GCONF_KEY is TRUE.

Regards,
Li


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Nischal Rao <rao.nischal <at> gmail.com> wrote:
It is at-spi-registryd and both were running as the same user. I restarted the system and it is no longer reproducible. I will keep a watch on this.

By the way I have disabled at-spi-corba in gconf but still I get at-spi-registry and not at-spi2-registryd. Have I missed something here??

Thanks & Regards,
Nischal E Rao


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Mike Gorse <mgorse <at> alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
Is this at-spi-registryd or at-spi2-registryd, and are both running as the same user?


On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Nischal Rao wrote:

Hi,

I was looking at the system processes running on my system and found that there are 2 instances of at-spi-registryd running. Also whenever I shutdown my system I get the
message that it is unable to shut at-spi-registryd.

Attached is a screenshot. Is it a known issue or should I file a bug?

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