Thomas Emge | 1 Apr 2010 07:24
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[OSM-dev] Data download anomaly

Hi,

 

In working with the 0.6 API and I’ve run into a little “data anomaly” that I can’t quite explain and I am hoping for some clarification on this topic.

 

I am performing a GET request to download some data as in

 

http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/map?bbox=7.14746,50.68080,7.16356,50.68613

 

Looking through the response I discovered that parts of the relations are “missing”. Well, I guess they are not really missing but they are not part of the original response. For example, one of the relations that are returned is the following one

 

http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/13239

 

However if I take a look through the listed ways from the original GET request I can’t find way id=23039372 in the returned osm file. And the way does exist on the server as in

 

http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/23039372

 

Any ideas or suggestions what might be happening in the initial GET request?

 

Thanks,

 

-          Thomas

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Peter Körner | 1 Apr 2010 08:13
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Re: [OSM-dev] Data download anomaly

Thomas Emge schrieb:
> I am performing a GET request to download some data as in
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/map?bbox=7.14746,50.68080,7.16356,50.68613
> 
> Looking through the response I discovered that parts of the relations 
> are “missing”. Well, I guess they are not really missing but they are 
> not part of the original response. For example, one of the relations 
> that are returned is the following one
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/13239
Did you read the docs on the /map call? It states

 >> Note that, while this command returns those relations that reference
 >> the aforementioned nodes and ways, the reverse is not true: it does
 >> not (necessarily) return all of the nodes and ways that are
 >> referenced by these relations. This prevents unreasonably-large
 >> result sets. For example, imagine the case where:
 >>  - There is a relationship named "England" that references every node
 >>    in England.
 >>  - The nodes, ways, and relations are retrieved for a bounding box
 >>    that covers a small portion of England.
 >> While the result would include the nodes, ways, and relations as
 >> specified by the rules for the command, including the "England"
 >> relation, it would (fortuitously) not include every node and way in
 >> England. If desired, the nodes and ways referenced by the "England"
 >> relation could be retrieved by their respective IDs.

> However if I take a look through the listed ways from the original GET 
> request I can’t find way id=23039372 in the returned osm file. And the 
> way does exist on the server as in
> 
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/23039372
This is returning the way for me, just as
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23039372

Peter
Jim Brown | 1 Apr 2010 14:29
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Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Data Update

Yep...  

-----Original Message-----
From: dev-bounces <at> openstreetmap.org [mailto:dev-bounces <at> openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Peter Körner
Sent: 31 March 2010 08:10
To: dev <at> openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Data Update

Jim Brown schrieb:
> Frederik wrote:
>> You should never assume that OSM Way IDs (or indeed any IDs) remain 
>> unchanged. The "data" layer on www.openstreetmap.org is your friend if 
>> you want to find out the history of a particular stretch of motorway.
> 
> If the ids change it makes diff processing a bit difficult...  

The id's don't change but elements can be deleted and re-created and 
thereby given a new id.

Peter

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Thomas Meller | 1 Apr 2010 17:57
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Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Data Update

If there is need for external references, I suggest to use a relation and add all nodes concerned in the order
they appear in the way object.

A node cannot be split and recombined, only deleted.
Whether everybody will be happy with external references or not...

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:29:57 +0100
> Von: Jim Brown <jim <at> cloudmade.com>
> An: "Peter Körner" <osm-lists <at> mazdermind.de>, "dev <at> openstreetmap.org" <dev <at> openstreetmap.org>
> Betreff: Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Data Update

> Yep...  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev-bounces <at> openstreetmap.org [mailto:dev-bounces <at> openstreetmap.org]
> On Behalf Of Peter Körner
> Sent: 31 March 2010 08:10
> To: dev <at> openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Data Update
> 
> Jim Brown schrieb:
> > Frederik wrote:
> >> You should never assume that OSM Way IDs (or indeed any IDs) remain 
> >> unchanged. The "data" layer on www.openstreetmap.org is your friend if 
> >> you want to find out the history of a particular stretch of motorway.
> > 
> > If the ids change it makes diff processing a bit difficult...  
> 
> The id's don't change but elements can be deleted and re-created and 
> thereby given a new id.
> 
> Peter
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waldemar quevedo | 2 Apr 2010 08:32
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[OSM-dev] Proposal for Easy Printable Maps [GSoc 2010]

Hello everyone! This is the first version of my proposal for this year's GSoC. I thought I should post it to the mailing list to receive some feedback. Thank you for taking the time to read it!


- Waldemar 

Proposal: Easy Printable Maps: OpenPaperMaps
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Abstract:

Although there has been many projects within the OSM community that already provide print support, notably Maposmatic and townguide, there is still a lot of ground to get creative given OSM open source nature. In this project, it is aimed to create a web application where the user can customize the way that she would like her maps to be printed for her use. Also, one of the objectives of this project is to keep an eye on mapnik new features proposed for this summer of code related to this same issue. 

http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/GSOC2010/Ideas#BetterPrintSupport

List of Languages known
------------------------------------------
Ruby (8/10): Did an internship at FatStudent where they were using Rails. I've also used it for some personal projects.

Javascript (8/10): I enjoy a lot programming in Javascript and I am big fan of jquery.

Python (7/10): Have used it in plenty on my artificial intelligence classes, and also did used the PyOpenGl bindings for my computer graphics class.

Elisp (7/10): I know it is not the best of skills around but I do enjoy programming my super text editor.

PHP (7/10): Have used it before for freelance projects, but not using it seriously since learning Ruby and Python.

C# (7/10): Again for a school project, one of the requirements was to use only the Microsoft stack, I developed a basic help desk application with ASP.NET MVC.

C++(6/10): My data structures course was based on C++, I also did some computer graphics homework with it. This month I have been improving it a little by reading Mapnik's source.

Java (5/10): I have only used for school projects.

OSM Project Proposal
------------------------------------------
The project will consist of a Django web application that will integrate several features from other projects. Because this project's main objective will be towards creating a flexible enough platform for printing customizable maps, the customizable possibilities of the project can get very broad. A fully featured style editor like that of Cloudmade but for paper printing is not a feasible task to do within 3 months, and although interesting, it could finally become a monolithical pile of code, something I do not want. I will try to keep it simple so that future customizations are not a such pain to make.

The project will have two major aspects. The first one, will be creating the Django application based upon the design decisions that Maposmatic/ocitysmap have already done (rendering daemon, web service architecture) to integrate what has already been done by townguide.

Some of ideas for the base project will be:

  • POI display selection: Townguide has already addressed this problem. This would mean integrating this idea to the Maposmatic based project.
  • POI icon selection: Implement a way to select the kind of icon that will represent the POIs.
  • Work on overlapping icons: One current problem of townguide is that when there are several POIs on the same area, it becomes difficult to discern what is there. This have to be addressed in order to make the map easy to use.(e.g. if there are 3 restaurants on the same place, show a number 3, or an index that indicates which places exists there)
  • Basic Theme Colour selection: Define several styles like Cloudmade does which could be selected in order to localize the map.
  • Module for uploading styles: I think that it would be fun to provide an interface for uploading user contributed styles to generate the maps. This styles could be regular styles or use Cascadenik styles.
  • Turning Layers on/off: Mapnik has support for turning layers off/on, and this is currently not being done by the main Export function from OpenStreetMap. An option like this would be good for post processing, which needs vector output.
  • Provide different output formats: PDF of various sizes and resolution. Townguide also has some code regarding this, so I will be basing on that piece of work.
  • Provide different types of layouts: This will involve work on using Pango Library to do so. The Maposmatic project has a ticket right now regarding this[1] that could be later merged into the project. The project to study here is OSM-Atlas[2] which create a pdf atlas from OSM png images. It uses osmarender/inkscape/pdflatex so maybe better approach could be thought out.

[1] http://savannah.nongnu.org/task/?9695 

[2] http://www.mappage.org/atlas/

The second aspect is to use the new Mapnik resolution features that will increase the quality of the paper output. Some of this might involve actual work on Mapnik, so some guidance from the Mapnik project will be needed. Fortunately, Mapnik was accepted as participant for GSoC this year, and one of the ideas tackles specially the issue of resolution for the maps.

http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/GSOC2010/Ideas#BetterPrintSupport

This part of the project on exposing this new functionality from mapnik through the same web interface. This would involve:
  • Tweaking ocitysmap to make it mapnik2 compliant in order to use the new features.
  • Work on adding resolution options to improve the quality of the maps.
If time allows I would work on this (Extended Goals):

  • Display cycling and walking routes like OpenCycleMap: This feature could benefit from the work on the idea from the Maposmatic ticket referenced above, in order to make the map span several pages.
  • Show contours and hill shading
  • Collaborate with the Mapnik project expose other Mapnik rendering options.

Project Schedule
------------------------------------------

Week #1: May 23th - 29th (May 24th Start)
________________________________

These weeks I'm planning on setting up the foundations for the project, doing the main set up of the appropiate stack for the Django application. Maposmatic/ocitysmap is already a great source to make a mapnik/osm based web project so I'm thinking about building on it. This week I will start work on porting the first features from townguide to Ocitysmap to display the selection of POIs on the output. Research on whether keep on using the Pango library which Ocitysmap uses (a big issue since one goals might be to merge some of the code with Maposmatic), or reportlab which townguide uses. (40 hours)

Week #2: May 30th - June 5th

________________________________

Now that the infrastructure for the Django application has been set up I will work on the first features from the project that have already been addressed by the townguide project. I will start work on the user interface and work on the set up for OpenLayers. Since the user interface is very important, and hearing from Maposmatic efforts:

"The main form to select the city has been further improved, with bug fixes, improved usability, etc. Said like this, it doesn’t sound like a big deal, but all this stuff is written in Javascript using the JQuery library and requires careful fine-tuning to be working. We easily spend a day on the same 20 lines of Javascript."[1]

...I think that I should allow enough time to work on the user interface, the original idea of the project is 'Easy Printable Maps' after all. Another source of inspiration for this is Nicholas Marichal idea[2] (40 hours)

[1]: http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=81

[2]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Nicolasmarichal

Week #3: June 6th - 12th

________________________________

I'll continue with implementing a way to choose the icons that should appear for display when printing within the user interface. 

(24 hours) 

I will start work on the problems that occur when there are several POIs on the same place (overlapping icons) 

(16 hours).

Week #4: June 13th - 19th

________________________________

I will continue work on the overlapping icons problem and work out a way to make it easier to understand on the printed map which kind of POIs were there. 

(16 hours)

I expect to begin work on the styles feature for the project around this time by making available different styles available from the user interface. 

(12 hours)

I'll work on the module for uploading the Mapnik XML styles as well. 

(12 hours)

Week #5: June 20th - 26th

________________________________

I'll work on providing different output formats for paper now. Again there is some code from townguide where I could base upon. 

(16 hours)

Work on different more kinds of layouts than the main one offered by Maposmatic and townguide, like a map that spans on several pages (atlas), or a really big map. 

(24 hours)

Week #6: June 27th - July 3rd

________________________________

Continue work on the different layouts and rendering options for mapnik. (24 hours) 

Although it has already been covered by the 'upload your own mapnik style' feature, I will add the option to turn Layers on/off (16 hours)

Week #7: July 4th - 10th

________________________________

It has been more than a month of coding nonstop this week I'll be revising my code and work on any features that need more polish before the mid-term evaluation. (40 hours)

Weeks #8: July 11th - 17th (Mid-term evaluation)

________________________________

Week #9: July 18th - 24th

________________________________

Since the base project should be very advanced by now, I'll ask for guidance from the Mapnik project to work on the issues regarding Better Print Support from Mapnik. In case the project has already been taken care of by another fellow GSoC member, this week I'll revise the code to integrate these features. These features will most likely be taken care of in the new Mapnik2 codebase, so this will involve updating ocitysmap to be Mapnik2 compliant.

Week #10: July 25th - 31th 

Week #11: August 1st - 7th

________________________________

I planned to use these weeks as buffer time to revise the code and work on the extended goals from the project. I will work on the documentation, possible patches that could be useful for maposmatic, deploy of the application on a server, write missing tests, etc...

Week #12: August 8th - 14th (Firm "Pencils Down" date)

________________________________

Time Available to Work on Project
---------------------------------------------------------------
I will finish school on May 20th, and after that I'll have the whole summer to work on this project.

Handling Situations (in absence of mentor)
---------------------------------------------------------------
I promise to not become a high load on the mentor, as I can manage working on my own. The role of a mentor in the end I think it is to give advice to the mentee without it becoming a such a burden. Still if I have a problem, the OSM/mapnik communities are healthy enough to answer any question that I might have. Also, in order to keep my mentor inform on the advance of this project I will be reporting advances each week and might setup a tool like Redmine so that he can follow the flow of the project.

Currently involved in?
------------------------------------------
I'm currently busy with finishing school and final projects for artificial intelligence classes.  Otherwise, I'm trying out new technologies all the time, right now having fun with Django and learning Boost so that I will be able to contribute to Mapnik in the future.

Hobbies/Interests
------------------------------------------
OpenStreetMap is currently not very known in Guadalajara,Mexico, where I live, and its OSM map seems to be very far behind from the one from Google Maps. I would like to see some change in this aspect, since Guadalajara is the 2nd largest city in Mexico, maybe by promoting it while I'm still in school or give a there regarding the project.

Regarding my hobbies, I'm currently an active member of AIESEC, so I'm interested on making an impact through innovation. I also like a lot trying out new technologies that come from Hacker News from time to time. I like languages and can speak/read Japanese on a business level.
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Graham Jones | 2 Apr 2010 10:12

Re: [OSM-dev] Proposal for Easy Printable Maps [GSoc 2010]

Hi Waldemar,

Thank you for putting together such a well researched and thorough proposal.
All of your ideas sound very good to me and I would like to see this working!

My only concern is whether you have too many 'base goals' that could be difficult to achieve on the time you have available?
I would certainly design your code with the intentions of all of these extensions being possible, but you might want to move some of them into the 'future extensions' section rather than your base project? (just to be sure that you achieve your base goals!).

Your ideas are a mixture of pure 'easy printable maps' and more technical ones (I am thinking of layer switching for post-processing and uploading of user defined styles) - maybe you could concentrate on the 'end user' features first?  It is up to you though - it is your project!

I do like the idea of 'international' style selections (getting motorways the right colour for the country concerned etc.) - I am sure people will have produced these somewhere - is there a library of these style sheets that you could pick up to use? [This is probably as much a question for the dev list than you!].

Thanks again for researching your proposal so well.

Regards


Graham.



On 2 April 2010 07:32, waldemar quevedo <waldemar.quevedo <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone! This is the first version of my proposal for this year's GSoC. I thought I should post it to the mailing list to receive some feedback. Thank you for taking the time to read it!

- Waldemar 

Proposal: Easy Printable Maps: OpenPaperMaps
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Abstract:

Although there has been many projects within the OSM community that already provide print support, notably Maposmatic and townguide, there is still a lot of ground to get creative given OSM open source nature. In this project, it is aimed to create a web application where the user can customize the way that she would like her maps to be printed for her use. Also, one of the objectives of this project is to keep an eye on mapnik new features proposed for this summer of code related to this same issue. 

http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/GSOC2010/Ideas#BetterPrintSupport

List of Languages known
------------------------------------------
Ruby (8/10): Did an internship at FatStudent where they were using Rails. I've also used it for some personal projects.

Javascript (8/10): I enjoy a lot programming in Javascript and I am big fan of jquery.

Python (7/10): Have used it in plenty on my artificial intelligence classes, and also did used the PyOpenGl bindings for my computer graphics class.

Elisp (7/10): I know it is not the best of skills around but I do enjoy programming my super text editor.

PHP (7/10): Have used it before for freelance projects, but not using it seriously since learning Ruby and Python.

C# (7/10): Again for a school project, one of the requirements was to use only the Microsoft stack, I developed a basic help desk application with ASP.NET MVC.

C++(6/10): My data structures course was based on C++, I also did some computer graphics homework with it. This month I have been improving it a little by reading Mapnik's source.

Java (5/10): I have only used for school projects.

OSM Project Proposal
------------------------------------------
The project will consist of a Django web application that will integrate several features from other projects. Because this project's main objective will be towards creating a flexible enough platform for printing customizable maps, the customizable possibilities of the project can get very broad. A fully featured style editor like that of Cloudmade but for paper printing is not a feasible task to do within 3 months, and although interesting, it could finally become a monolithical pile of code, something I do not want. I will try to keep it simple so that future customizations are not a such pain to make.

The project will have two major aspects. The first one, will be creating the Django application based upon the design decisions that Maposmatic/ocitysmap have already done (rendering daemon, web service architecture) to integrate what has already been done by townguide.

Some of ideas for the base project will be:

  • POI display selection: Townguide has already addressed this problem. This would mean integrating this idea to the Maposmatic based project.
  • POI icon selection: Implement a way to select the kind of icon that will represent the POIs.
  • Work on overlapping icons: One current problem of townguide is that when there are several POIs on the same area, it becomes difficult to discern what is there. This have to be addressed in order to make the map easy to use.(e.g. if there are 3 restaurants on the same place, show a number 3, or an index that indicates which places exists there)
  • Basic Theme Colour selection: Define several styles like Cloudmade does which could be selected in order to localize the map.
  • Module for uploading styles: I think that it would be fun to provide an interface for uploading user contributed styles to generate the maps. This styles could be regular styles or use Cascadenik styles.
  • Turning Layers on/off: Mapnik has support for turning layers off/on, and this is currently not being done by the main Export function from OpenStreetMap. An option like this would be good for post processing, which needs vector output.
  • Provide different output formats: PDF of various sizes and resolution. Townguide also has some code regarding this, so I will be basing on that piece of work.
  • Provide different types of layouts: This will involve work on using Pango Library to do so. The Maposmatic project has a ticket right now regarding this[1] that could be later merged into the project. The project to study here is OSM-Atlas[2] which create a pdf atlas from OSM png images. It uses osmarender/inkscape/pdflatex so maybe better approach could be thought out.

[1] http://savannah.nongnu.org/task/?9695 

[2] http://www.mappage.org/atlas/

The second aspect is to use the new Mapnik resolution features that will increase the quality of the paper output. Some of this might involve actual work on Mapnik, so some guidance from the Mapnik project will be needed. Fortunately, Mapnik was accepted as participant for GSoC this year, and one of the ideas tackles specially the issue of resolution for the maps.

http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/GSOC2010/Ideas#BetterPrintSupport

This part of the project on exposing this new functionality from mapnik through the same web interface. This would involve:
  • Tweaking ocitysmap to make it mapnik2 compliant in order to use the new features.
  • Work on adding resolution options to improve the quality of the maps.
If time allows I would work on this (Extended Goals):

  • Display cycling and walking routes like OpenCycleMap: This feature could benefit from the work on the idea from the Maposmatic ticket referenced above, in order to make the map span several pages.
  • Show contours and hill shading
  • Collaborate with the Mapnik project expose other Mapnik rendering options.

Project Schedule
------------------------------------------

Week #1: May 23th - 29th (May 24th Start)
________________________________

These weeks I'm planning on setting up the foundations for the project, doing the main set up of the appropiate stack for the Django application. Maposmatic/ocitysmap is already a great source to make a mapnik/osm based web project so I'm thinking about building on it. This week I will start work on porting the first features from townguide to Ocitysmap to display the selection of POIs on the output. Research on whether keep on using the Pango library which Ocitysmap uses (a big issue since one goals might be to merge some of the code with Maposmatic), or reportlab which townguide uses. (40 hours)

Week #2: May 30th - June 5th

________________________________

Now that the infrastructure for the Django application has been set up I will work on the first features from the project that have already been addressed by the townguide project. I will start work on the user interface and work on the set up for OpenLayers. Since the user interface is very important, and hearing from Maposmatic efforts:

"The main form to select the city has been further improved, with bug fixes, improved usability, etc. Said like this, it doesn’t sound like a big deal, but all this stuff is written in Javascript using the JQuery library and requires careful fine-tuning to be working. We easily spend a day on the same 20 lines of Javascript."[1]

...I think that I should allow enough time to work on the user interface, the original idea of the project is 'Easy Printable Maps' after all. Another source of inspiration for this is Nicholas Marichal idea[2] (40 hours)

[1]: http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=81

[2]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Nicolasmarichal

Week #3: June 6th - 12th

________________________________

I'll continue with implementing a way to choose the icons that should appear for display when printing within the user interface. 

(24 hours) 

I will start work on the problems that occur when there are several POIs on the same place (overlapping icons) 

(16 hours).

Week #4: June 13th - 19th

________________________________

I will continue work on the overlapping icons problem and work out a way to make it easier to understand on the printed map which kind of POIs were there. 

(16 hours)

I expect to begin work on the styles feature for the project around this time by making available different styles available from the user interface. 

(12 hours)

I'll work on the module for uploading the Mapnik XML styles as well. 

(12 hours)

Week #5: June 20th - 26th

________________________________

I'll work on providing different output formats for paper now. Again there is some code from townguide where I could base upon. 

(16 hours)

Work on different more kinds of layouts than the main one offered by Maposmatic and townguide, like a map that spans on several pages (atlas), or a really big map. 

(24 hours)

Week #6: June 27th - July 3rd

________________________________

Continue work on the different layouts and rendering options for mapnik. (24 hours) 

Although it has already been covered by the 'upload your own mapnik style' feature, I will add the option to turn Layers on/off (16 hours)

Week #7: July 4th - 10th

________________________________

It has been more than a month of coding nonstop this week I'll be revising my code and work on any features that need more polish before the mid-term evaluation. (40 hours)

Weeks #8: July 11th - 17th (Mid-term evaluation)

________________________________

Week #9: July 18th - 24th

________________________________

Since the base project should be very advanced by now, I'll ask for guidance from the Mapnik project to work on the issues regarding Better Print Support from Mapnik. In case the project has already been taken care of by another fellow GSoC member, this week I'll revise the code to integrate these features. These features will most likely be taken care of in the new Mapnik2 codebase, so this will involve updating ocitysmap to be Mapnik2 compliant.

Week #10: July 25th - 31th 

Week #11: August 1st - 7th

________________________________

I planned to use these weeks as buffer time to revise the code and work on the extended goals from the project. I will work on the documentation, possible patches that could be useful for maposmatic, deploy of the application on a server, write missing tests, etc...

Week #12: August 8th - 14th (Firm "Pencils Down" date)

________________________________

Time Available to Work on Project
---------------------------------------------------------------
I will finish school on May 20th, and after that I'll have the whole summer to work on this project.

Handling Situations (in absence of mentor)
---------------------------------------------------------------
I promise to not become a high load on the mentor, as I can manage working on my own. The role of a mentor in the end I think it is to give advice to the mentee without it becoming a such a burden. Still if I have a problem, the OSM/mapnik communities are healthy enough to answer any question that I might have. Also, in order to keep my mentor inform on the advance of this project I will be reporting advances each week and might setup a tool like Redmine so that he can follow the flow of the project.

Currently involved in?
------------------------------------------
I'm currently busy with finishing school and final projects for artificial intelligence classes.  Otherwise, I'm trying out new technologies all the time, right now having fun with Django and learning Boost so that I will be able to contribute to Mapnik in the future.

Hobbies/Interests
------------------------------------------
OpenStreetMap is currently not very known in Guadalajara,Mexico, where I live, and its OSM map seems to be very far behind from the one from Google Maps. I would like to see some change in this aspect, since Guadalajara is the 2nd largest city in Mexico, maybe by promoting it while I'm still in school or give a there regarding the project.

Regarding my hobbies, I'm currently an active member of AIESEC, so I'm interested on making an impact through innovation. I also like a lot trying out new technologies that come from Hacker News from time to time. I like languages and can speak/read Japanese on a business level.

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Graham Jones | 3 Apr 2010 22:57

[OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code Applications

Hi,

We are over half way through the Google Summer of Code application period (All applications must be submitted by 9th April).

We have received some really interesting proposals ranging from GPX file analysis for routing applications, an easy 'mashup generator' to add maps to web sites, to producing customisable paper maps (plus quite a few others!).

If you know any students that might be interested, please encourage them to apply as soon as possible (I note we still do not have any volunteers to work on the JOSM improvements that have been suggested?).

We need to choose which of the applications to accept, and assign mentors to the chosen students.  If you are interested in acting as a mentor and helping with the choice of applications, please contact me.

Thanks


Graham.

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Richard Weait | 4 Apr 2010 04:41
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Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-newbies] Revert Request

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Kenneth Pardue <kenneth <at> pardue.me> wrote:
> Looks like I may have run into a serious error trying to figure out the NHD data conversion.  In trying to
merge and upload the data for an entire subbasin in order to keep duplicates down, I instead ran into an
error in my upload at some point during the process, leaving me with nearly 350,000 orphaned nodes. o.O
 Lesson learned, it seems like a much better idea to import the files (limited to 30,000 nodes each)
individually, and deal with duplicates as they happen.
>
> Instead of pushing my luck and working with the revert scripts, how can I ask that a system admin revert the
following changesets: 4309301, 4309425, 4309533, 4309602, 4309662, 4309733, 4309777, 4309834.  My
mistake certainly wasn't a malicious one, I have the genuine intent to improve the quality of the maps
throughout my state.
>
> Best,
> Kenneth

Thanks for bringing this to our attention Kenneth.  Imports are tricky
and we can all make mistakes.  I've forwarded your revert request to
"dev".
davandg | 4 Apr 2010 11:31
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Re: [OSM-dev] Google Summer of Code Applications

Hi,
I know a student very interested by developing OpenStreetMap software during this summer : me !
I've already send a mail to Graham Jones to talk about my situation : I never contribute to OpenStreetMap. I have always use it, the city where I live (Grenoble, France) has a lots of interesting tags : all bus stations, ski piste, hiking routes... and i have done some tests with my OpenMoko.
I am a newbie in developing OSM apps, so I can't do a good proposal.
In the wiki there is a project about a webservice for shapefiles[1]. This project has no student who wants to get involved for now. This project is :
1) conversion shp=>osm (already done)
2) a webservice to do 1)
3) osm=>shp
4) a webservice to do 3)
I'm interested by this project. Should I open a thread to talk about it (I have some questions about the languages that I should use, the integration with the "export" tab...) ?

I have an another proposal : the no-car router. I don't have a drive license, so I'm a big user of buses, trams, trains... This router has to deal with forbidden ways for walker and schedules of public transports. This web-service will use OSM data and a schedule database. Perhaps, the transit project can [2] give some useful informations.
Do you think it can be a good project ?

Regards,
David Glesser.



[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2010#Shapefile_Conversion_Web_App_.2F_Webservice
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ideas_in_Transit



2010/4/3 Graham Jones <grahamjones139 <at> googlemail.com>
Hi,
We are over half way through the Google Summer of Code application period (All applications must be submitted by 9th April).

We have received some really interesting proposals ranging from GPX file analysis for routing applications, an easy 'mashup generator' to add maps to web sites, to producing customisable paper maps (plus quite a few others!).

If you know any students that might be interested, please encourage them to apply as soon as possible (I note we still do not have any volunteers to work on the JOSM improvements that have been suggested?).

We need to choose which of the applications to accept, and assign mentors to the chosen students.  If you are interested in acting as a mentor and helping with the choice of applications, please contact me.

Thanks


Graham.

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Hartlepool, UK
email: grahamjones139 <at> gmail.com

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Claudius | 4 Apr 2010 18:21
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[OSM-dev] Database-manipulation without PostGIS

There's this user in Iran who changed name-tags for some cities from the 
farsi script (the one used in the country) to the latin transcript 
because his Garmin PNA doesn't have unicode support.
I'd like to help him get a usable Garmin map for Iran without 
manipulating the base OSM database by copying name:en to name in an Iran 
excerpt before running it through mkgmap.

I'd love to do that without setting up a full PostGIS server by using 
some osmosis-magic on the Iran.osm excerpt [1] but I guess that's not 
doable from what I read on the osmosis wikie [2]. Any ideas or do I have 
to set up PostGIS?

Claudius

[1] http://downloads.cloudmade.com/asia/iran
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis

Gmane