David W. Gilmore | 18 Apr 17:30 2014
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Upgrading Database

I wanted to get onto the newest version of Gramps, but the last time I used it was a few years ago. I don't remember the version. What is the best way to upgrade my database so I don't blow it up?

Also - is the latest version OK to use with Gramps-Connect? I eventually want to load the db into it and play around a bit
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Brad Rogers | 18 Apr 14:10 2014
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Re: Dates with Census Gramplet

On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 00:26:56 -0400
Ben Pritchard <ben <at> bennyp.org> wrote:

Hello Ben,

>I guess my first instinct was to link the census 'event' with the actual
>visitation. But I guess I can see either way.

The census is supposed to be a snapshot of the population at a given
date/time.  That time is when the census is _supposed_ to be completed.
Here in the UK, the time is midnight.  Clearly, few people are going to
actually do it then.  However, whenever they do fill in the form, they're
supposed to fill it out with details that were or will be correct at the
scheduled date and time.  Not everybody got it right and as a result,
occasionally, people were enumerated in two places;  Once where they
usually reside, and once where they /actually/ were that night.

>P.S. to Brad: sorry for the duplicate. Still learning how to deal with
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subscribers can post to it.  I've got used to it and try to ignore it
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Philip Weiss | 18 Apr 07:46 2014
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Upgraded to Ubuntu Trusty Tahr. Gramps issues.

Hi everyone,

I upgraded Ubuntu to 14.04 today, and it upgraded my Gramps install to 4.* from 3.4.7  I managed to get osgmap and gexiv2 built so I don't get errors on gramps startup.  However, I'm seeing a couple of issues.

1. The filters pane is not usable on the geography view.  There are no labels for any of the fields.

2. I lost the toolbar button labels that I'd set through the dconf editor.  I tried setting that again but Gramps 4.0 doesn't appear to respect it.

Anything I can do for either? 

Phil.
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Brad Rogers | 16 Apr 09:46 2014
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Re: Dates with Census Gramplet

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:06:53 -0400
Ben Pritchard <ben <at> bennyp.org> wrote:

Hello Ben,

>I've been working on adding some census data to a family tree using
>the census gramplet. I'm just wondering if there is a way to (reliably)
>change the date for the census event and the source?

As J Allen says the date the enumerator delivered or collected forms to
households is largely irrelevant.  For the USA and the UK, but probably
most places that take a census, the data is supposed to reflect the
state of the population at a particular time; in the UK at midnight on
the Sunday-Monday night.

If you /really/ wish to change the date used by the census gramplet it
*can* be done(1), but it's all or nothing;  IOW, you'll change the date
for the entire census.  I concur with the suggestion that you add dates
of the enumerator visit in the citation;  either as a description, note
or an attribute.  Whichever method you choose, though - be consistent.

(1)  You'll have to do it every time there's an update to the census
gramplet, because your changes will be overwritten.

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J. Allen Crider | 16 Apr 04:06 2014

Re: Dates with Census Gramplet

I can't speak for census data from other countries, but for U.S. census 
data, the census taker was supposed to collect data for a specific 
effective date, regardless of the date on which the enumeration actually 
occurred (although I'm aware that the data recorded is not always the 
correct data for the effective date).  Using the 1850 census as an 
example, the heading for column three specifies that the effective date 
was June 1, 1850.  That effective date is the date used by the census 
gramplet, at least when the effective date is known.  For some of the 
state census definitions that I have provided, I couldn't find the 
correct effective date, so I used estimates I found on the web or 
January 1 if I couldn't find anything better.

So far I've made no effort to record the enumeration date in the census 
events I've recorded, but if you want to do so I think it would be 
better to include it in the Reference field or on the Headings tab. 
Nick could better answer how he intended the Headings tab to be used as 
I haven't tried to use it yet.

Allen Crider

On 04/15/2014 04:06 PM, Ben Pritchard wrote:
> Hello
>
> I've been working on adding some census data to a family tree using
> the census gramplet. I'm just wondering if there is a way to (reliably)
> change the date for the census event and the source?
>
> For some censuses I have the date that the enumerator visited a certain
> house. I would think that it is that particular date that should be
> entered, correct? If I change the date on the citation or event then
> the editor changes it back next time the census is edited (as expected).
>
> For now, I did a very quick hack of CensusGramplet.py to stop the gramplet
> from changing the dates, but I was wondering what the proper protocol
> is behind census dates.
>
> Thanks
>

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Ben Pritchard | 15 Apr 23:06 2014

Dates with Census Gramplet

Hello

I've been working on adding some census data to a family tree using
the census gramplet. I'm just wondering if there is a way to (reliably)
change the date for the census event and the source?

For some censuses I have the date that the enumerator visited a certain
house. I would think that it is that particular date that should be
entered, correct? If I change the date on the citation or event then
the editor changes it back next time the census is edited (as expected).

For now, I did a very quick hack of CensusGramplet.py to stop the gramplet
from changing the dates, but I was wondering what the proper protocol
is behind census dates.

Thanks
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Ron Johnson | 15 Apr 07:23 2014
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Re: gramps testing with very large files

On 04/14/2014 11:34 AM, Josip wrote:
> Dana 14.4.2014. 17:11, TJMcK je napisao:
>> However, the way gramps imports
>> files is to create LOTS of large log files, and after an hour or so, gramps
>> crashed, because the 6gig was not large enough for the import
> What if you create file DB_CONFIG in database directory and put in it:
> set_flags DB_LOG_AUTOREMOVE

As in "~/.gramps/grampsdb/DB_CONFIG"?

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TJMcK | 13 Apr 21:41 2014
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need help with filter

I'm struggling again, with making the filter that I need.  Could someone help
me?

Simply put, I only want gramps to show people that have an exact birth and
or death date. (date that includes, year, month, and day).

I can figure out how to do everything except, how to filter out all dates
with letters... so I want to filter out about, between, before, after, etc.
Oh yes, I would like it to filter out dates like year-month-00 (which is how
gramps shows dates with an unknown day.)

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Brock Inglehart | 13 Apr 17:55 2014
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Need to get new Gramps

For reasons I won't bore you with, I had to re-load my Ubuntu 12.04.  
Thus I lost my old version of Gramps.  Before the re-load, I attempted 
to backup my Gramps files but wound up with a PDF report only.  I still 
don't understand that.  At least I have most of the data and photos so I 
can recreate the file.

As long as I have to redo this from scratch, it would seem to make sense 
to start with the most current, stable version.  The Ubuntu repository 
still has an older version 3.3.1-1.  Can you tell me what that would be 
(compatible with my Ubuntu) and its repository.

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Ron Johnson | 11 Apr 11:39 2014
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Fast GEDCOM loading into an empty db?

What existing table lookups can be bypassed if the db is known to be empty?

Is it easy to add such bypasses (presumably by nesting certain existing db 
lookups under something like "if empty_db == false:")?

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Ron Johnson | 9 Apr 16:29 2014
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Re: gramps testing with very large files

On 04/09/2014 08:49 AM, Enno Borgsteede wrote:
> Ron,
>> Not magically. The developers would have to rewrite Gramps to use the
>> multiprocessing module, and that will create the need to synchronize
>> tasks, pass all sorts of messages back and forth, handle even more
>> kinds of catastrophic errors, etc, etc. Not something that I see
>> non-University volunteers of a stable project doing any time soon.
> You'd be surprised about the number of university level developers here,
> I think. That's not to say that I know everyone's degree or working
> environment, nor that I plan to reveal what I know, but there are about
> a handful that I know, myself included, although I don't do more than
> hacking now.

What I mean was, "kids still in University, so have the time and motivation 
to do stuff like rewrites". Sorry for the ambiguity...

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