Douglas Bainbridge | 26 Jan 14:09 2015
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Re: Fundamental omission

On 26/01/15 12:31, paul womack wrote:
> Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
>
>>
>> Several times in the past it's paid off in unexpected 
>> ways when gaps in the "symmetry" of filter rules have 
>> been plugged
>
> What I really want is the ability to nest anonymous filters.
>
> Some of the filtering I do (or want to do)
> involves making at least 1 filter per view
> and sometimes more (when I need to manipulate
> "OR" "AND" "NOT" groups)
>
> It's fiddle, tedious and error prone.
>
>  BugBear 

I agree. Ideally in any bunch of rules one would like to be 
able to find a comprehensive set of filters matching 
anonymous filters.
I'd support any request to fill in a remaining gap because 
the real value of doing so has often been in something 
unrelated to the feature request that initiated it.

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Ron Johnson | 26 Jan 12:57 2015
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Re: Fundamental omission

On 01/26/2015 05:45 AM, paul womack wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 01/26/2015 05:14 AM, paul womack wrote:
>>> I am using 3.4.8.
>>>
>>> Since Events now have Citations, not Sources,
>>> (and CItations have Sources) I think some
>>> functionality that should probably
>>> have been migrated to Citations from Sources
>>> wasn't.
>>>
>>> For most downloaded images (e.g. baptisms,
>>> marriages etc), I use Source to label
>>> where they've come from (e.g. Hertfordshire marriages on FMP),
>>> and the Volume/Page of the Citation to identify the
>>> induividual record.
>>>
>>> As such, the downloaded or photographed image needs to be stored
>>> against the Citation.
>>
>> Why not store the picture with the person?
>
> Because it corresponds with the citation, and
> I might well want to store the citation against more
> than 1 event, or more than one person.
>
> It's a question of modularity and granularity.
>
> A baptism certificate might well support the parents'
> names, the child's name, place of birth, residence,
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Ron Johnson | 26 Jan 12:35 2015
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Re: Fundamental omission

On 01/26/2015 05:14 AM, paul womack wrote:
> I am using 3.4.8.
>
> Since Events now have Citations, not Sources,
> (and CItations have Sources) I think some
> functionality that should probably
> have been migrated to Citations from Sources
> wasn't.
>
> For most downloaded images (e.g. baptisms,
> marriages etc), I use Source to label
> where they've come from (e.g. Hertfordshire marriages on FMP),
> and the Volume/Page of the Citation to identify the
> induividual record.
>
> As such, the downloaded or photographed image needs to be stored
> against the Citation.

Why not store the picture with the person?

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paul womack | 26 Jan 12:14 2015
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Fundamental omission

I am using 3.4.8.

Since Events now have Citations, not Sources,
(and CItations have Sources) I think some
functionality that should probably
have been migrated to Citations from Sources
wasn't.

For most downloaded images (e.g. baptisms,
marriages etc), I use Source to label
where they've come from (e.g. Hertfordshire marriages on FMP),
and the Volume/Page of the Citation to identify the
induividual record.

As such, the downloaded or photographed image needs to be stored
against the Citation.

I was attempting to develop a filter so that I could
find "direct ancestors with birth events where no citation
has an image", with a view to putting serious effort
into finding such images where possible.

But such a filter cannot be created.

Event filters can be created to match a named Source filter,
but the corresponding "Events with Citation matching the <citation filter>"
does not exist.

  BugBear

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Ron Johnson | 25 Jan 21:45 2015
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Re: Adjustable format for lines on various graphs (e.g. family-lines-graph)

For the purposes of software development, feature requests are a type of bug.

On 01/25/2015 02:31 PM, brian wrote:
> Hello all,
>    Would it be possible to have a control on some of the graphs'
> configuration where one could specify the color and thickness and
> dot/dash/other format of the lines connecting parents, siblings and
> children on an output graph?
>
> It seems that such a feature would allow a certain amount of mitigation
> for the way which the graphviz algorithm doesn't completely place
> everything optimally sometimes, while allowing print real-estate to be
> optimized.
>
> I was looking for a feature request page on the site but can't find one,
> so I apologize in advance if there is one.
>
> brian

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brian | 25 Jan 21:31 2015
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Adjustable format for lines on various graphs (e.g. family-lines-graph)

Hello all,
  Would it be possible to have a control on some of the graphs' 
configuration where one could specify the color and thickness and 
dot/dash/other format of the lines connecting parents, siblings and 
children on an output graph?

It seems that such a feature would allow a certain amount of mitigation 
for the way which the graphviz algorithm doesn't completely place 
everything optimally sometimes, while allowing print real-estate to be 
optimized.

I was looking for a feature request page on the site but can't find one, 
so I apologize in advance if there is one.

brian

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beagle10 | 25 Jan 20:58 2015
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Address report of a desendent

I would like to generate a report of names and addresses of all descendents
into a text file.  Does Gramps have this feature?
Thanks in advance.

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Nick Hall | 25 Jan 18:35 2015
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Re: Main Participants column on person dialog

On 25/01/15 16:44, Paul Womack wrote:
On 25 January 2015 at 15:11, Nick Hall <nick-h <at> gramps-project.org> wrote:
This is the best suggestion so far.  We could even take it one step
further and use the description column for the participants.  So we
could have the following columns:

Type (Role)
Description (Paricipants)
Date
Place
ID

An example, where the edited person is a primary participant:

Occupation | Blacksmith | 1 Jan 1800 | London, England | E0001

and for a witness in a marriage:

Marriage (Witness) | A. Smith and B. Jones | 1 Jan 1900 | London,
England | E0002

I suggest that we don't display the description where the edited person
is not a primary participant.  In an editor, we need to quickly identify
the object to be edited.  We don't need to display all information
available.  This would work well on smaller screens.


That's all pretty darn good.

My only caveat is that the participant
list CAN be large (a will with an extended family for example;
many executors and beneficiaries).


There is only likely to be one primary participant in a will, so you would see something like:

Will (Executor) | A. Smith | 1 Feb 1934 | London, England | E0003


Nick.

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Nicholas Robinson | 25 Jan 17:48 2015
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Disconnected Individuals vs. Associations


I have a number of Wards where I record the relationship using the Association tab of the Guardian’s
record. I don’t want them included on family type reports such as ancestors and descendants, but
recording them as I do means they keep showing up as disconnected people.

Is there a better way?

Thanks

Nick

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Gerhard Killesreiter | 25 Jan 14:14 2015
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Lines of property owners


Hi there,

I was wondering, if anybody had solved the following problem:

A property is passed on from one owner to the next over the years. The
owners may be related or not.

I would like to generate a report on the line of property owners from
the past to the future.

For this, I need to put this information into gramps.

What I've started to do is to create an event with two people as
participants, one is the previous owner, the other the following one.
I've created separate roles for these, however this means there is no
primary person for this event.

Sometimes I've made this a family event, since usually at least it is
a family passing on the property.

What I would like to have is:

1) a report of the line of owners with indication on how they were related

2) a way to navigate this line inside Gramps.

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Gerhard

Ron Johnson | 24 Jan 19:04 2015
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Re: New place sidebar filter

On 01/24/2015 11:45 AM, Nick Hall wrote:
> I have just been looking at the following:
>
> 7860: sidebar Filters dont match placetypes in new placeview
> https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7860
>
> I did not change the place sidebar filter when hierarchical places were
> introduced.  A rule simply constructs locations from the place
> hierarchy.  The existing interface is used.
>
> What changes should I make to the place sidebar filter?
>
> I have created a new rule to match on Name, Place Type and Code.  It
> only matches on singles places, and does not construct locations. This
> rule could be used in a new filter sidebar.
>
> I'm not sure what we really want, so I need some feedback.

Place Type filter is really needed, for user-created Types like "Township" 
and "Parish"

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