Ron Johnson | 30 May 05:49 2016
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Hidden place names

Hi,

v4.2.2

At some point, many cemetery Places were turned into names "Unknown" with type "Locality".   The Alternative Names fields are empty.

However, the cemetery names are still somewhere in Gramps because if I delete all referenced events from that place and then run Remove Unused Objects, the original cemetery names are shown.

So, the question is: how do I get those names back?

Thanks
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Ron Johnson | 30 May 05:06 2016
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The thirteen colonies

Hi,

What do you enclose them in?  The UK?  England?  Nothing?

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brian fitzgerald | 29 May 22:30 2016
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Adding new attributes to many existing sources

I would like to add about 6 custom attributes to each source I acquire. I would like to update all my existing sources with these 6 attributes also.

Is there a way to accomplish this, eg linux script, batch, automation, etc., without typing them into all 390 sources?

Brian
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Ron Johnson | 29 May 05:11 2016
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Re: Gramps Portable

On 05/28/2016 09:11 PM, David Reitz wrote:
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My tablet is a cheapie Walmart special. It is a NextBook Flexx8. It is an 8" quad-core, running Windows 8.1. I don't know if it's 23 or 64 bit, but it has an Intel Atom Z3735G quad-core processor.

Then it *should* work with bog standard Gramps.

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David Reitz | 29 May 04:11 2016
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Gramps Portable

Simon C. Tremblay wrote:

>  Like Ron asked above, what's the model of your tablet and the OS you're
> running?  I am using an Asus Transformer T200TA that runs Windows 10 32
> bits.  It's basically a touchscreen netbook with a detachable keyboard.
> I'm currently running Gramps AIO-4-2-3 32 bits on it and it runs fine.
> Besides the fact that it's limited in memory and on-board HDD, it's perfect
> to bring along to the library or my genealogy association research
> library.  I even lug it to work everyday to document some evidence or
> transcribe church records over my lunch break.

My tablet is a cheapie Walmart special. It is a NextBook Flexx8. It is an 8" quad-core, running Windows 8.1. I don't know if it's 23 or 64 bit, but it has an Intel Atom Z3735G quad-core processor. It's a nice little tablet, but it was a cheap one bought at Walmart. It is a good starter tablet, especially since I didn't have much experience with tablets when I first got it. My plan is to use it when I'm on the go, with inquiring family, or at a cemetery, or whatever.

> My DB (still small. ~2100 individuals) and all media are stored in my
> Dropbox folder which replicates to the cloud and back to my desktop PC at
> home.  To avoid DB corruption, I try to always manually stop Dropbox
> replication before launching Gramps, and then re-enalbing it once I shut
> down Gramps.  (Could not find a command line to dropbox to include this in
> a batch file every time I launch/quit Gramps..)  I also backup often.with
> and without media files.

I am in the process of rebuilding my gedcom - I had a family tree on Ancestry, until I gave up my membership for financial reasons. My current gedcom is right at 20K individuals, and will be at about 50K individuals when I finish entering all of my current research. I don't currently use media files in my database; I keep them stored elsewhere. Also, of course, I do backups every time I enter data, usually on a daily basis.

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Ron Johnson | 27 May 20:20 2016
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Re: Fwd: Re: Gramps 5.0

On 05/27/2016 12:33 PM, Doug Blank wrote:
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Gerhard Killesreiter <gerhard <at> killesreiter.de> wrote:
Am 27.05.2016 um 16:48 schrieb Doug Blank:

> The queries run by Gramps and the queries you can run yourself may
> look very different. That is, for many queries you can do what you
> might guess. But yes, I think the SQL tables will change to be more
> "standard" over time.

I was more referring to the fact that currently some of the contents
of these tables is in python pickles. This makes that content rather
unaccessible  for SQL-only usage that David seemed to intent.

All of the objects are stored as Python-pickled binary objects, but all of the flat, single-valued fields are also stored as regular SQL fields.So all of the flat-fields are accessible from outside of Gramps and Python.

That infers that the same data is stored in two different places and so can get out of sync due to programming bugs.  (This is why the first three Normal Forms are so important to relational databases.)

I believe you wrote somewhere you are planning to change that, which
is great!

I think that we can make that more regular/relational. But that is to be determined.

Would you do it one object at a time, within the indirection layer that allows multiple back-ends?

But honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if a normalize redesign weren't required.
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jerome | 27 May 19:04 2016
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Re: Gramps Portable

I suppose that whatever config, we can also run gramps 4.2.3 via rollapp[1]?

[1] https://www.rollapp.com/app/gramps

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En date de : Ven 27.5.16, Enno Borgsteede <ennoborg <at> gmail.com> a écrit :

 Objet: Re: [Gramps-users] Gramps Portable
 À: gramps-users <at> lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Vendredi 27 mai 2016, 17h04

 

 

   

     David,

     
       Thanks,
 Enno and
           Ron... I guess perhaps that will be a dream for
 the future.

     I think so, for several reasons.

     

     But like Ron wrote, the deciding factor is what version
 of Windows
     8.1 is there. If it's the RT version, no version of
 Gramps will run
     on it, because it doesn't have Intel inside. But if
 it's the real
     Windows 8.1, you can try to install any version of
 Gramps, as long
     as it's the right number of bits. On genuine Intel,
 the 32-bit
     version will alwys run, even if your Windows 8.1 is 64
 bits.

     

     Also, when it's an Intel based Windows 8.1, or 10,
 whatever you
     like, there is no reason to choose Gramps portable. The
 portable
     version is in no way lighter or faster than the normal
 3.4.9, so if
     the hardware is right, you can install the normal one,
 even 4.2.3 or
     5.0 alpha. I have no idea how well it works on a (low
 res) touch
     screen though.

     

     Portable Gramps is nice if you want to run it from an
 external
     drive, attached to a real PC, and have your data on that
 external
     drive, but that's the only reasonable use for that.

     

     

 However, I have
           downloaded and used another software package on my
 tablet. It
           does take a short while to import my gedcom, but
 once it's
           loaded, it runs pretty quick. The features of the
 software
           aren't exactly what I wanted, but they'll
 do, until something
           better comes along.

     What software is that? Did you get it from the Windows
 store? Just
     curious.

     

     regards,

     

     Enno

     

   

 
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Ron Johnson | 27 May 17:21 2016
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Re: Roadmap for Gramps 5

On 05/26/2016 07:57 AM, Doug Blank wrote:
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It might be worth polling Gramps' users to see what are the most popular third-party addons. Developers have no way to know which addons are popular, or even used.

Don't know which are core and which are 3rd party.
  • Family Descendant Tree
  • Complete Individual Report
  • Descendant Report
  • Detailed Descendant Report
  • Ancestor Report
  • Detail Ancestor Report
  • Family Group Report
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  • Lines of Descendency

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Ron Johnson | 27 May 17:13 2016
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Re: Gramps 5.0

On 05/27/2016 08:32 AM, David Reitz wrote:
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but now use SQL Server exclusively at work and at home.

I pity you.  It's got a nice gloss and is full of point and drool, but simple stuff like wanting to manually choose whether to commit or rollback a transaction is impossible without first commenting out all the commands that you've previously run.  That's just crazy.
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Re: Fwd: Re: Gramps 5.0


Am 27.05.2016 um 16:48 schrieb Doug Blank:

> The queries run by Gramps and the queries you can run yourself may
> look very different. That is, for many queries you can do what you
> might guess. But yes, I think the SQL tables will change to be more
> "standard" over time.

I was more referring to the fact that currently some of the contents
of these tables is in python pickles. This makes that content rather
unaccessible  for SQL-only usage that David seemed to intent.

I believe you wrote somewhere you are planning to change that, which
is great!

Cheers,
Gerhard
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Fwd: Re: Gramps 5.0

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From: "Doug Blank" <doug.blank <at> gmail.com>
Date: May 27, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Gramps 5.0
To: "Gerhard Killesreiter" <gerhard <at> killesreiter.de>
Cc:

The queries run by Gramps and the queries you can run yourself may look very different. That is, for many queries you can do what you might guess. But yes, I think the SQL tables will change to be more "standard" over time.

-Doug

On May 27, 2016 10:07 AM, "Gerhard Killesreiter" <gerhard <at> killesreiter.de> wrote:
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Am 27.05.2016 um 15:32 schrieb David Reitz:

>
> Thanks for the updates, Doug. Integration with SQL is something
> I've been hoping for for quite some time. I am a heavy SQL user at
> work (I am currently updating several older programs that access
> our SQL databases), and at home. I used MySQL back in my college
> courses, but now use SQL Server exclusively at work and at home.

> I am also working on a pet project using my gedcom and C# to run
> statistics on my gedcom. It's not a competitor to Gramps
> (hahahaha), but rather just pulls out more statistically-oriented
> information than Gramps currently offers. Like a lot of different
> totals on the people in my gedcom. But with my background in SQL
> and C#, I would be able to make amazing strides by accessing the
> Gramps SQL database...  David
>

Your enthusiasm will wane a bit once you look at the queries run by
gramps and the way the information is stored.

I believe there is intent to change that.

Cheers,
Gerhard


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