Ron Johnson | 6 May 02:00 2016
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Re: Ideas For Reports/Books For Younger Cousins

I heartily recommend against that, since -- as your grandchild just illustrated -- "might" quickly becomes "is", and quite easily leads them far astray.  For example, what if great-grandmother Alice was a proper young middle-class lady who'd have been SCANDALIZED to go into a speakeasy?  Yet for the rest of your grandchildren's lives -- and what they'll pass on to their descendants -- Great-grandma Alice was a flapper.

On 05/05/2016 04:00 PM, Steve Carter wrote:
My grandchildren are that age (elementary and middle school), and I've discovered that overwhelming them with charts and books about their relatives is a sure way to lose their attention.  Instead, focus on a common relative who lived during an interesting time (the Civil War, the Roaring 20's, whatever).  Find a book, film or video about that time, and then make sure they know that great-grandmother Alice who lived in Chicago was could have been a flapper who visited  a speakeasy run by Al Capone, scandalized her family by bobbing her hair,  and danced the Charleston to ragtime music.  

I discovered an ancestor who was in one of the last battles of the Civil War; I gave my grandson a copy of a Currier & Ives print of that specific battle and a book that included details of the fighting, including some Matthew Brady pictures, and also gave him a photocopy of his enlistment papers.  I told him that one of the soldiers in the print or in the photographs could very well have been his great x4 grandfather.  It worked.  On a subsequent visit, he showed me the Currier & Ives print and solemnly told me that he had circled the soldier in the ranks of thousands he thought was John Schneider.; on our last shopping trip to Barnes & Noble, he found and bought another book on the Civil War.

Sincerely,
Ron
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Steve Carter | 5 May 23:00 2016
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Ideas For Reports/Books For Younger Cousins

My grandchildren are that age (elementary and middle school), and I've discovered that overwhelming them with charts and books about their relatives is a sure way to lose their attention.  Instead, focus on a common relative who lived during an interesting time (the Civil War, the Roaring 20's, whatever).  Find a book, film or video about that time, and then make sure they know that great-grandmother Alice who lived in Chicago was could have been a flapper who visited  a speakeasy run by Al Capone, scandalized her family by bobbing her hair,  and danced the Charleston to ragtime music.  

I discovered an ancestor who was in one of the last battles of the Civil War; I gave my grandson a copy of a Currier & Ives print of that specific battle and a book that included details of the fighting, including some Matthew Brady pictures, and also gave him a photocopy of his enlistment papers.  I told him that one of the soldiers in the print or in the photographs could very well have been his great x4 grandfather.  It worked.  On a subsequent visit, he showed me the Currier & Ives print and solemnly told me that he had circled the solder in the ranks of thousands he thought was John Schneider.; on our last shopping trip to Barnes & Noble, he found and bought another book on the Civil War.

Good luck!

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Tracy Conger | 5 May 18:58 2016
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      Anniversaries Report (Ron Johnson)
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 20:41:43 +0200
From: Ross Gammon <ross <at> the-gammons.net>
Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Problem on trying to start GRAMPS
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I had forgotten that the README (or INSTALL) file recommends installing
the gtk language pack for your language.

Defaulting to the English-English locale will help (as we know we have
translations), but I wonder if it will help more (especially for other
languages) to tweak the message to additionally say "This may be because
the gtk language pack for your language is not installed - see
/usr/.../README etc. for further information".

On 05/04/2016 07:12 AM, jerome wrote:
> I suppose we cannot propose a package name based on a lang variable
> during the installation and check of the .deb file?

It is probably possible to dynamically select a package at build time
based on $LANG. But this is not helpful because then everybody would get
the locale of the build server. Doing it in a post-install script (as
you suggest) is theoretically possible, but complex. And the users can
change their locale at any time.

The best thing is to follow the advice in the README and install the
language pack for your language.

Cheers,

Ross

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From: brian fitzgerald <isogoog <at> gmail.com>
Subject: [Gramps-users] in-line citations suggestions
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I am writing some fairly extensive person notes occasionally for some of
the folks in my database.
The idea is create a narrative providing a bit of context and some
commentary.
I was wondering if there might be a way to involve the 'citations' and
'sources' functions in this. I don't see any way yet to accomplish this.
Has anyone tried to create in-line citations within person notes and, if
so, how did you do it ?

Thanks in advance for any tips.

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Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 12:10:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] in-line citations suggestions
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You can use internal links to objects inside notes, at least for sources.
It's not available for citations yet, but will be in Gramps 5.0:

https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=9255

The links don't include any of the text or whatnot that's attached to a
citation or source or whatever is linked to.  It just creates a link.  I
kinda wish we had something similar to how Facebook generates a short
preview when a link is created, but that would be a whole 'nother feature.

Phil.

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:58 AM, brian fitzgerald <isogoog <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> I am writing some fairly extensive person notes occasionally for some of
> the folks in my database.
> The idea is create a narrative providing a bit of context and some
> commentary.
> I was wondering if there might be a way to involve the 'citations' and
> 'sources' functions in this. I don't see any way yet to accomplish this.
> Has anyone tried to create in-line citations within person notes and, if
> so, how did you do it ?
>
> Thanks in advance for any tips.
>
> brian
>
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On 05/02/2016 01:50 PM, Doug Blank wrote:
[snip]
> 2. A project that has been under way for a few years is called Gramps
> Connect. This is a web-server-based version of Gramps that allows users to
> log in and edit a Gramps tree. This can be the same tree used by the
> standard Gramps, but also available over the web. This project was
> restarted this past year, using the new databases in Gramps 5.0. A beta
> version should be ready this year.

The interface in Javascript with an XML data store would be the Web 2.0
dream come true!!  LOL

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Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 14:29:44 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson <at> cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Problem with dialogue box to generate
        Birthdays and Anniversaries Report
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On 05/03/2016 10:43 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 03/05/2016, Bret Busby <bret.busby <at> gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> The list administrator refused to allow the image to go to the mailing
> list, so I can not show the problem. The problem remains.

There are free image hosting sites.

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 08:10:16 +1200
From: Peter Hewett <gramps <at> hewett.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Problem on trying to start GRAMPS
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From: Ross Gammon <ross <at> the-gammons.net>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 20:41:43 +0200
To: gramps-users <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Problem on trying to start GRAMPS

> I had forgotten that the README (or INSTALL) file recommends installing
> the gtk language pack for your language.

Oh. My bad. I didn't look in the readme.

Best solution would be if the install process could automagically
install the correct language pack for the user's language setting, but
maybe that is not feasible.

It would be very helpful if the error message could provide a hint on
how to fix it. Such as to install language-pack-gnome-xx or to look at
the readme file.

It would also be helpful for the wiki page to have a note on this.
https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download
(I'd update the wiki, but that page is protected.)

cheers

Peter






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> The interface in Javascript with an XML data store would be
> the Web 2.0 
> dream come true!!  LOL

Haha.

Note, it sounds rather web in 1999, no?

 
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Dave Gilmore | 5 May 00:55 2016

Ideas For Reports/Books For Younger Cousins

Hi All,

In a couple months, two of my younger (10 and 12) cousins will be coming 
for a visit. It's the first time we will be meeting and I wanted to give 
them a Book on our Family History. I have a tendency to try and cram 
every single report for every family possible into one of these things, 
but that would probably be too overwhelming. Can anyone give me some 
suggestions on what kinds of Gramps (or other) reports would be good for 
a younger audience? I'm not sure how much their grandpa (my uncle) has 
told them about our ancestors.

Thanks!

Dave

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Ron Johnson | 4 May 21:29 2016
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Re: Problem with dialogue box to generate Birthdays and Anniversaries Report

On 05/03/2016 10:43 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 03/05/2016, Bret Busby <bret.busby <at> gmail.com> wrote:
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> The list administrator refused to allow the image to go to the mailing 
> list, so I can not show the problem. The problem remains. 

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On 05/02/2016 01:50 PM, Doug Blank wrote:
[snip]
> 2. A project that has been under way for a few years is called Gramps 
> Connect. This is a web-server-based version of Gramps that allows users to 
> log in and edit a Gramps tree. This can be the same tree used by the 
> standard Gramps, but also available over the web. This project was 
> restarted this past year, using the new databases in Gramps 5.0. A beta 
> version should be ready this year.

The interface in Javascript with an XML data store would be the Web 2.0 
dream come true!!  LOL

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brian fitzgerald | 4 May 20:58 2016
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in-line citations suggestions

I am writing some fairly extensive person notes occasionally for some of the folks in my database.
The idea is create a narrative providing a bit of context and some commentary.
I was wondering if there might be a way to involve the 'citations' and 'sources' functions in this. I don't see any way yet to accomplish this.
Has anyone tried to create in-line citations within person notes and, if so, how did you do it ?

Thanks in advance for any tips.

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Doug | 4 May 11:26 2016

Re: Gramps on Linux Mint 17.3 w/Cinnamon

Hi Sturdy2,
I'm not sure whether I've fully understood the discussion in 
#7390, so perhaps you can correct me - in summary, all that 
was needed to solve your problem was to alter line 90 in 
gallery.py - is that right?

I've done this (but nothing else) and it makes no difference 
to me with Cinnamon on LMDE2. The gallery and reference tabs 
in the bottombar are still blank. Should I add a comment to 
#7390?

Doug

On 03/05/16 23:28, sturdy2 <at> verizon.net wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> Thanks for the response. That does sound like the same
> issue. I have a lot of .odt files so it is important to me.
> Probably others too if they knew of the issue. I think I
> have identified the problem and posted it on bug 7390 where
> the developers can correct and test the change.
>
> Sturdy2
>
>
> On 05/03/2016 03:21 PM, Doug wrote:
>> On 01/05/16 16:54, sturdy2 <at> verizon.net wrote:
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> Some time ago I submitted a bug report [1] for a problem
>>> with the
>>> Gallery tab gramplet in both Citations and Sources views.
>>> A major part
>>> of the problem is fixed in 4.2.3 but I find the Gallery
>>> tab does not
>>> highlight correctly. The default Notes and References
>>> tabs highlight
>>> correctly when content is present but the Gallery tab
>>> only highlights
>>> when specific types of media files are present, most
>>> obviously
>>> .jpg/.png/.pdf. However, the tab fails to highlight for
>>> .ods/odt content
>>> (and, also, maybe other mime types).
>>>
>>> I can reproduce the problem quite easily:
>>>
>>> 1) place a .odt file in the empty gallery of a citation
>>> and click Okay
>>> to close the Citation. Notice the Gallery tab in the
>>> Bottombar is _not_
>>> highlighted (it should be).
>>> 2) click the Gallery tab in the Bottombar to activate and
>>> notice the tab
>>> will highlight and the file icon can be seen correctly.
>>> 3 click the References tab to make it active. Notice the
>>> Gallery tab is
>>> still highlighted.
>>> 4) select another Citation then, again, select the
>>> Citation with the
>>> .odt file. On my system, the tab fails to highlight
>>> unless you click the
>>> Gallery tab.
>>>
>>> SNoiraud (thanks!) is working the problem and says the
>>> Gallery tab
>>> highlights correctly when using Oxygen theme. I am using
>>> Mint 17.3 with
>>> Cinnamon and I am unable to try Oxygen since it is
>>> apparently not
>>> compatible
>>>
>>> My question: Is anybody else using Cinnamon and having
>>> this problem with
>>> the Gallery tab in the Bottombar or Sidebar?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sturdy2
>>>
>>> [1] https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7390
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>
>> I'm running Cinnamon on LMDE2. I don't get exactly the
>> same as you, but I'm having similar problems:
>> if I add an .ods, .png *or* .pdf  file to the gallery of a
>> Citation and click OK, they show in the Gallery tab of the
>> citation editor, but the bottom bar Gallery tab is totally
>> blank, nor do they show in the References tab.
>> If I close the Citation editor and re-open it, the added
>> files are present in the editor's gallery, but the bottom
>> bar gallery and references are still blank
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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jerome | 4 May 07:12 2016
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Problem on trying to start GRAMPS

I suppose we cannot propose a package name based on a lang variable
during the installation and check of the .deb file?

Also, gramps can run from CLI, this is GUI stuff and should not block run.

Currently, we need at least:

Package: python3-gramps
Depends:
 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 (>= 3.10.0),
 librsvg2-2,
 python3-gi,
 python3-gi-cairo,
 python3-bsddb3,
 xdg-utils,
 ${misc:Depends},
 ${python3:Depends}

https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/blob/master/debian/control

"librsvg2-2" and "xdg-utils" are GUI stuff too, 
but they are common, whatever locale set.

Jérôme

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En date de : Mer 4.5.16, Peter Hewett <gramps <at> hewett.co.nz> a écrit :

 Objet: Re: [Gramps-users] Problem on trying to start GRAMPS
 À: gramps-users <at> lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Mercredi 4 mai 2016, 1h20

 
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 From:
 Bret Busby <bret.busby <at> gmail.com>
 Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 22:23:06 +0800
 To: gramps-users <at> lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Gramps-users] Problem on trying to
 start GRAMPS

 > On trying
 to start GRAMPS, I get the following.
 >   Gramps detected an incomplete
 GTK installation

 
 I have had similar error messages on Kubuntu
 15.10 and 16.04. It happens
 with the default
 version of Gramps 4.2.2 and with the Sourceforge
 version 4.2.3. Installing this package (below)
 makes the error messages
 go away on my
 PC;
  language-pack-gnome-en

 
 HTH

 Peter

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Re: Problem with dialogue box to generate Birthdays and Anniversaries Report

On 03/05/2016, Bret Busby <bret.busby <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> In trying to generate a Birthdays and Anniversaries Report, I get the
> attached displayed, which does not show the bottom of the dialogue
> box, and, no scroll bars are displayed, that would allow me to scroll
> down top the bottom of the screen.
>
> The screen as used, is a 17" screen with the 4:3 (non-widescreen) aspect
> ratio.
>
> I had installed GRAMPS from the Ubuntu repository; I am running
> UbuntuMATE 15.10, and
> Help -> About
> shows
>
> "
> GRAMPS: 4.2.0
> Python: 3.5.0+ (default, Oct 11 2015, 09:05:38) ...
> BSDDB: 6.1.0 (5, 3, 28)
> LANG: en_US.UTF-8
> OS: Linux
> Distribution: 4.2.0-35-generic
> "
>
> How do I get to see the bottom of the dialogue box, so that I can
> cause the report to be generated?
>
> Thank you in anticipation.
>
> --
>
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
>
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
>

The list administrator refused to allow the image to go to the mailing
list, so I can not show the problem.

The problem remains.

-- 

Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia

..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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