Stan Cruise | 31 Oct 00:42 2014

Gramps 4.1.1 rpm for fc20


Is there an ETA when a gracious person will create an rpm for fedora 20
for the 4.1.1 release?

A truely awesome thing would be an rpm for centos 7.0 .....

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Philip Weiss | 31 Oct 00:30 2014
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New York City and Kansas City in Gramps 4.1

So another issue on how to model places:

Kansas City and New York City span multiple counties, which are normally higher in the hierarchy than a city.  In the case of NYC, the counties are coterminous with boroughs of the city, so counties can be inferred even if not explicitly stated.

But that's not the case for Kansas City.   I can't make KC a child of three different counties because the title generation only uses the first listed county,  And I can't make the counties children of KC for the same reason.  KC metro area doesn't really match a hierarchy.

How have others using 4.1+ solved that or similar locations?

Phil.
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Nick Hall | 29 Oct 23:50 2014
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New locations gramplet

There is a new gramplet in v4.1.1 that shows the location hierarchy for 
a place.  It is designed to be added as a bottombar gramplet in the 
place views.

You may also notice some changes to the place details gramplet.  It now 
shows the place name, place type and alternative names.  It no longer 
shows the main location hierarchy.

Let me know if you have any comments or suggestions.

Regards,

Nick.

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Chris Bagley | 29 Oct 10:14 2014

Gramps versions

I am curious about the way the Gramps community issues versions.  I am 
running Gramps 4.0.4-1 (on Linux Mint Xfce) and have been since I became 
aware Gramps existed in July of this year.  I noticed at the time that 
it had been released in May, and that a new version, 4.1.0., had been 
released 4 weeks later.  I also noticed that 4.0.4 was described as a 
maintenance release and 4.1.0 was described as a new major release.  For 
some reason the perception I formed at the time was that 4.0.4 was the 
more stable version so I installed that.  Now I see 4.1.1 has been 
released.  So now I have two questions:

Are the upgrades described somewhere, in the form of a development 
history, and

Should I upgrade to 4.1.1

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Ron Johnson | 28 Oct 07:21 2014
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Re: Turning off place hierarchy generation on import

It might be useful to open the task manager (or xterm and run top(1)) to 
watch the high-CPU processes.

On 10/28/2014 01:00 AM, Philip Weiss wrote:
> Is there a way to disable hierarchy generation when importing a pre 4.1 
> gramps file?  I'm okay with hacking the code to do that if need be, but I 
> don't know where I should do it or if there's a better way.
>
> I ask because the generation of the hierarchy was very error prone.  For 
> instance, I had a place record for a cemetery in rural Grant County, 
> Wisconsin.  Import decided that record should be the parent record for a 
> good dozen other place records.  I think I may have less work to do 
> manually connecting records than fixing the issues that came up.
>
> (Related, the issue in a previous email where import hung resolved 
> itself.  I just had to wait about 15 minutes for import to work.  I 
> suspect that time is spent generating the hierarchy. This is not a large 
> DB, but I create a lot of place records.)
>
> Phil.

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Philip Weiss | 28 Oct 07:00 2014
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Turning off place hierarchy generation on import

Is there a way to disable hierarchy generation when importing a pre 4.1 gramps file?  I'm okay with hacking the code to do that if need be, but I don't know where I should do it or if there's a better way.

I ask because the generation of the hierarchy was very error prone.  For instance, I had a place record for a cemetery in rural Grant County, Wisconsin.  Import decided that record should be the parent record for a good dozen other place records.  I think I may have less work to do manually connecting records than fixing the issues that came up.

(Related, the issue in a previous email where import hung resolved itself.  I just had to wait about 15 minutes for import to work.  I suspect that time is spent generating the hierarchy. This is not a large DB, but I create a lot of place records.)

Phil.
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Philip Weiss | 28 Oct 03:19 2014
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Addresses for places in 4.1.*

How can I handle addresses for places in Gramps 4.1+?  I like the new hierarchical system, except there doesn't seem to be a place to include addresses for places.  To explain...

I have a number of places such as buildings, cemeteries, etc, that I enter using an official or colloquial name: Saint Mary's Cemetery, Big Spring Farm, Union Harbor Condominiums.  Sometimes I have an address or approximate street location for the place.

I see the following options:
  1. Add it to the title or name.  (Seems like a bad option.)
  2. Add it to the Code field. (Doesn't seem conceptually correct.)
  3. Add it as an Alternative Name (though it doesn't allow for multi-line addresses)
  4. Add it as an attached Note (and perhaps create a new note type called 'Address').
I'd lean toward option 4, as that allows me to have a couple different kinds of "addresses".  One type for actual street address. One type for descriptive address (e.g., corner of 5th and Madison).  Maybe other types for other kinds of addresses.

Am I missing any options?  How are other people handling this in the 4.1 place system?  What pluses and minuses do you see from how you are handling it?

Phil.
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Philip Weiss | 28 Oct 02:56 2014
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Attempting to upgrade to 4.1.1

I'm attempting to upgrade from Gramps 4.0.4 to Gramps 4.1.1. Running on Ubuntu 14.10.

First tried to upgrade my database in place.  Progress bar gets to be about 75% done then the window went unresponsive.  Eventually killed it and started over.

This time I created a new database, then imported from backup gramps file (made immediately before upgrade, so I shouldn't lose anything). Same result.  Progress bar gets to be about 75% done then the window goes unresponsive.

Nothing shows up on stdout/stderr during the import process.

Anyone got pointers for me?  

Thanks,
Phil
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Ron Johnson | 27 Oct 02:34 2014
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Re: Starting problems

Error messages always help...

$ gramps --version
$#
$ gramps
$

On 10/26/2014 08:27 PM, Grant McDuling wrote:

I run Arch Linux and have been using gramps for years. This week I have been unable to start the application at all. When I checked in the Arch repository, I see the app is flagged as out of date. Could it be GTK issues with Arch? Or is it just a matter of waiting for the maintainer to update gramps? The latest version in the Arch repository is 2:4.1.0-1

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Grant McDuling | 27 Oct 02:27 2014
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Starting problems


I run Arch Linux and have been using gramps for years. This week I have been unable to start the application at all. When I checked in the Arch repository, I see the app is flagged as out of date. Could it be GTK issues with Arch? Or is it just a matter of waiting for the maintainer to update gramps? The latest version in the Arch repository is 2:4.1.0-1
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Peter Hewett | 26 Oct 23:04 2014
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osmgpsmap and Kubuntu 14.10


This email is just some notes that might help someone who strikes the
same problem as I have.

Today, I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 14.10, and had some problems
with the osmgpsmap dependencies.  The Ubuntu repository says there is no
such package, and the packages on the gramps page at sourceforge are
...i386 which won't work on my 64bit install.

However, I found some amd64 deb packages at Debian
 packages.debian.org/sid/gramps
and these appear to work ok.  The packages are;
 libosmgpsmap-1.0-0
 gir1.2-osmgpsmap-1.0

I had to install the libosmgpsmap package first, or the gir1.2 package
says it couldn't install.

The other dependencies (goocanvas, webkit, gexiv, etc) appeared to
install ok from the Ubuntu repositories.

HTH

Peter

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