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Updated German l10n

Hi,

I tested the latest development Pioneers from Subversion and noticed that the 
German l10n was incomplete. I fixed this by updating POTFILES.in and de.po. 
Please find the patches here:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1515468&group_id=5095&atid=305095
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1515470&group_id=5095&atid=305095

Greetings

Ronny

PS: I am not subscribed to the mailing list. So please CC my adress when 
responding.

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Re: Updated German l10n

On Saturday 01 July 2006 11:45, Ronny Standtke wrote:
> I tested the latest development Pioneers from Subversion and noticed that
> the German l10n was incomplete. I fixed this by updating POTFILES.in and
> de.po. Please find the patches here:
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1515468&group_id=5
>095&atid=305095
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1515470&group_id=5
>095&atid=305095

Thank you,
the patches have been applied to the Subversion repository.

Regards,
Roland Clobus

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Lobby

Hello all,

As some of you might have noticed, one game is stationed nearly permanently at 
the metaserver, 'Lobby' (previously called 'Chat room').
It has one permanent resident, currently called 'Experimental Chatbot', 
later 'Lobby robot'.

The purpose of the lobby is to have a game where people can meet and discuss 
what game they want to play, before any server is started.

The purpose of the robot is to explain to players who enter the lobby why they 
don't see a board, and provide basic help. Also, it will send /beep messages 
to the players that have requested them. This means that you can leave a 
window with Pioneers open at the lobby, and see the new people when they 
enter.

However, I've noticed that most players connect only for a few dozen seconds. 
Is the welcoming message the robot sends too frightening? Or is it too 
strange to have an empty board?

When I'm in the Lobby, and have the notification turned on, there are players 
connected only for a few seconds. I've tested this with a 0.9.55 client, and 
managed to segfault it. (See issue 2)

Two issues I've noticed:
1) Sometimes the games is removed from the metaserver, but the server is still 
running, and I cannot see any error messages. Could it be that 
the 'keep-alive' signal is not fully working? Must of the times this has 
happened, the last 'hello-yes' was sent a few minutes past the whole hour, 
but I've seen exceptions. I've had a lobby running at another metaserver 

Re: Bug#378196: pioneers: FTBFS: bashisms

Hi,

There was a Debian bug reported about pioneers not building with non-bash
shells (in particular dash).

I thought that I found the problem.  This was incorrect.  Although what I
found was a bashism, it didn't actually solve the problem.

Now I found another bashism, and there's not much we can do about it.  The
problem is in /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh, from gnome-common.  The problem is
that it uses a variable which may not be defined.  Actually it looks like they
don't mean to use it anyway (it's about AUTOMAKE_VERSION, while they only use
REQUIRED_AUTOMAKE_VERSION elsewhere).

Now, the simplest way to go would be to file a bug against gnome-common (which
I will do) and wait for it to be fixed.  However, given that I still didn't
get a response to my previous bug report to them (#318424, a year ago), I'm
afraid the "waiting" part will take too long.

So we can implement a workaround, which is pretty easy (if the variable is
defined, there is no problem).  It just results in some "junk" in debian/rules
(only a single line, really).

If anyone has something to say about this, please do.  If not, I'll prepare a
package including the workaround.

On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 09:11:36PM +0200, Roland Clobus wrote:
> On Friday 14 July 2006 10:50, Julien Danjou wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 10:07:44AM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> > > Any pointers of where to fix this (or ways to reproduce it) would be

Re: Bug#378196: pioneers: FTBFS: bashisms

On Tuesday 18 July 2006 18:12, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> There was a Debian bug reported about pioneers not building with non-bash
> shells (in particular dash).
>...
> Now I found another bashism, and there's not much we can do about it.  The
> problem is in /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh, from gnome-common.  The problem is
> that it uses a variable which may not be defined.  Actually it looks like
> they don't mean to use it anyway (it's about AUTOMAKE_VERSION, while they
> only use REQUIRED_AUTOMAKE_VERSION elsewhere).
>
> Now, the simplest way to go would be to file a bug against gnome-common
> (which I will do) and wait for it to be fixed.

If you include a patch, I think it can be much faster 

I've tested, if you replace AUTOMAKE_VERSION by REQUIRED_AUTOMAKE_VERSION in 
gnome-autogen.sh, the problem is solved.

> However, given that I still 
> didn't get a response to my previous bug report to them (#318424, a year
> ago), I'm afraid the "waiting" part will take too long.

BTW: Reading the 2.12 version of gnome-autogen.sh, I think the bug you filed 
was actually fixed, but not closed in the BTS.

> So we can implement a workaround, which is pretty easy (if the variable is
> defined, there is no problem).  It just results in some "junk" in
> debian/rules (only a single line, really).

Please don't try to fix it in debian/rules, but instead in  

Re: Bug#378196: pioneers: FTBFS: bashisms

On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 10:24:49PM +0200, Roland Clobus wrote:
> > Now, the simplest way to go would be to file a bug against gnome-common
> > (which I will do) and wait for it to be fixed.
> 
> If you include a patch, I think it can be much faster 

I didn't look into it enough to be sure that this was indeed the correct fix
for the problem.

> I've tested, if you replace AUTOMAKE_VERSION by REQUIRED_AUTOMAKE_VERSION in 
> gnome-autogen.sh, the problem is solved.

Yes, I know it works, I just don't know if it's correct. 

> > However, given that I still 
> > didn't get a response to my previous bug report to them (#318424, a year
> > ago), I'm afraid the "waiting" part will take too long.
> 
> BTW: Reading the 2.12 version of gnome-autogen.sh, I think the bug you filed 
> was actually fixed, but not closed in the BTS.

Oh, ok.  I didn't check really, I never use automake-1.4 anymore.

> > So we can implement a workaround, which is pretty easy (if the variable is
> > defined, there is no problem).  It just results in some "junk" in
> > debian/rules (only a single line, really).
> 
> Please don't try to fix it in debian/rules, but instead in  
> macros/gnome-autogen.sh, and reassign this bug to gnome-common. The bug 
> regarding Pioneers is not Debian specific.

Translations

Nobody noted it before, I think, but pioneers 0.9.64 completly lacks for translations of
client/gtk/quote-view.c strings.
I recently noted the lack in it.po, but fast looking in all other .po files seems to be the same.
The missing msgids are:

"Player" (line 171)
"Quotes" (line 186)
"%d:1 %s for %s" (line 303)
"Rejected trade" (line 441)

Gianx

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Build system change imminent.

Hello Tristan (and list),

For Pioneers the build system is about to change. A single Makefile will be 
used instead of several.
You reported some time ago that you needed to patch the Makefiles to include 
driver.o explicitly. In the pending change, these fixes/hacks are removed.

Can you (or someone else who is running Fink) check whether the current svn 
version + the patch on SourceForge (#1478412) [1] still builds under Fink?

Thank you,
Roland Clobus
Developer for Pioneers

[1] 
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Re: Translations

Hello Giancarlo,

On Wednesday 19 July 2006 08:57, Giancarlo Capella wrote:
> Nobody noted it before, I think, but pioneers 0.9.64 completly lacks for
> translations of client/gtk/quote-view.c strings. I recently noted the lack
> in it.po, but fast looking in all other .po files seems to be the same.

In patch #1515470 Ronny Standtke noticed the missing strings too, and supplied 
the missing German translations. In the Subversion repository is an updated 
template. I've upload a patch on SourceForge with the missing translations 
(they were present in a previous release)

Regards,
Roland Clobus

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