Robert Martinez | 14 Jul 22:59 2014

BundesSans & BundesSerif license?

In case anybody on this list knows if something can be done about a
thing that bothers me; Can my government [1] commission the creation of
a font and not have the rights for it? I'd love to see a big OFL stamp
on it.

The font license says:
'Copyright (c) 2011 Juergen Huber, Martin Wenzel'

Here is what those authors say:
'... The project was to cover all communication issued by the government
and their ministries, online or offline, national or international. It
was a demanding and interesting task. Though we were accustomed to
working on projects like these for corporations, we were now asked to
design “for the people” ' [2]



Dave Crossland | 27 Mar 15:54 2014 type conference in 28+29th November

FYI :)


EST | IPCA, Barcelos, Portugal

28 and 29, November, 2014

26 and 27, November: workshops


10th JUNE

The 5th Meeting of Typography is organized by the Design Department of
the Superior School of Technology (EST) of the Polytechnic Institute
of Cávado and Ave (IPCA) and is being held in Barcelos, Portugal.

This year’s meeting takes it’s theme – UBIQUITOUS – from the
typography’s quality of existing everywhere, or almost everywhere, in
it’s diferent contexts and aplications.

The main objective is to stimulate the dissemination, reflection and
discussion about typographic research and development on a national
and international scale. To do so, we will have a program that
includes the participation of researchers, practitioners, teachers and
students and their investigations or professional experientes
dedicated to typography.
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Dave Crossland | 14 Mar 08:04 2014

Smashing Magazine on Free Fonts

Nathan Willis | 4 Mar 03:26 2014

Internet Archiving

Hello fellow librarians,

I have a semi-out-of-the-blue idea to pitch to the group about OFLB.  I've tossed it around with a couple of people in private conversation, and I think it's worth looking into, so I want feedback from the interested parties as a whole. 

Back in December, I was thinking about how the OFLB site tends to grow in fits of activity followed by long pauses, and I think part of the reason for that might be that we rely on the site to do a wide range of different services, so keeping them all running smoothly at once isn't as easy as it could be for a simpler service.

But probably the most important service we undertake is to provide a not-for-profit index and collection of all of the open fonts that we can find (and verify, of course).  Sometimes that's a tricky prospect because there are sources that are really different: individual type designers who don't publish their work anywhere else, one-off designs that come from projects not interested in ongoing maintenance, works for hire, etc.  Organizing that can be a big task.

It kind of struck me that we're attempting to do something similar to what Internet Archive does for public domain books, music, mailing lists, historical video, and so on.  Then I looked into how they organize things and discovered that they're already completely open to archiving all sorts of other collections -- in fact, they already do have a big free software collection, and a lot of uploads include open fonts ... it's just that they're in .zip formats without any special treatment of the metadata or presentation.  So I wondered if they would be somebody we could partner with to take on the "archiving" aspect of the OFLB site, and maybe reduce the overhead that the open font community volunteers do currently.

I checked around, sent an email, and they were super nice, essentially saying "sure, we can host your files, just like anybody else."  The advantage, of course, is that they do this upload, filter, DB, and index stuff all the time.  I asked their collections people and essentially any format that can be parsed, they can populate custom metadata fields on, and make all of it searchable.

So here's the idea in a nutshell: if we start a "collection" section for open fonts at Internet Archive, we can offload a good portion of the work currently being done by the OFLB CMS, and maybe the simpler part that remains will be easier to keep up to date.  We'd still be responsible for curating the content, just not keeping the servers going.

Obviously the question there is where do you draw the line; there are other aspects to the OFLB site and not all of them would be handled by the IA's server infrastructure (which is designed to optimize for its big collections).

The way I see it, right now the OFLB site does several things:

1. Indexes existing open fonts, including important metadata
2. Hosts the actual font files
3. Allows designers to "release" uploads of new versions of their fonts
4. Serves CSS webfonts
5. Has a wiki
6. Showcases new uploads/releases
7. Has a web font preview page for each of the library fonts

IA could definitely do (1) and (2); in fact that's right up its alley.  The question would be, if we moved those features to IA, would we still want to tackle the others?

I'm pretty positive IA cannot do (4) (the <at> font-face service); that's certainly important to a number of people.  I also don't think they can do (7); we could have uploaders generate static preview images -- in fact, we'd pretty much have to; you could script generating a preview image, but there's no way to automatically know what the "interesting" characters or features are to include.  Honestly, I don't think we really need to keep the wiki feature -- there are other places that could do that, and much of it pertains to things like Fontforge more than to OFLB itself.  But perhaps by letting someone else maintain the file hosting and indexing features, we could build a much lighter-weight site to tackle the remaining tasks, and have an OFLB site that's easier to maintain.

What do you think?  Even if we were to move file hosting to IA, we would by no means be eliminating the need for OFLB: finding, adding, and cataloging open fonts would still be very important; it's just that it'd be a different server.  Maybe a different login.

I'm sure I skipped over something really important; please ask.  But as a blanket statement, the IA folks I've talked to have been super helpful people, they have well-documented read and write APIs, and a well-managed Lucene-based search engine.  So I think just about any library task we cook up, they'd be able to handle on their end.


Ana Isabel Carvalho | 26 Feb 13:42 2014

Out now: Libre Graphics magazine issue 2.2, Gendering F/LOSS

⤹⟷...⟺...⇄...sorry for cross-posting...⇄...⟺...⟷⤸

~*~ Out now: Libre Graphics magazine issue 2.2, Gendering F/LOSS ~*~

We're very pleased to announce the release of issue 2.2 of Libre 
Graphics magazine. This issue, built around the theme "Gendering 
F/LOSS," engages with discussions around representation and gendered 
work in Free/Libre Open Source Software and Free Culture. We invite you 
to buy the print edition of the issue or download the PDF from We invite both potential readers and 
submittors to download, view, write, pull, branch and otherwise engage.

Why Gendering F/LOSS?

In the world of F/LOSS, and in the larger world of technology, debate 
rages over the under-representation of women and the frat house attitude 
occasionally adopted by developers. The conventional family lives of 
female tech executives are held up as positive examples of progress in 
the battle for gender equity. Conversely, pop-cultural representations 
of male developers are evolving, from socially awkward, 
pocket-protectored nerds to cosmopolitan geek chic. Both images mask the 
diversity of styles and gender presentations found in the world of 
F/LOSS and the larger tech ecology. Those images also mask important 
discussions about bigger issues: is it okay to construct such a strict 
dichotomy between "man" and "woman" as concepts; how much is our work 
still divided along traditional gender lines; is it actually enough to 
get more women involved in F/LOSS generally, or do we need to push for 
specific kinds of involvement; do we stop at women, or do we push for a 
more inclusive understanding of representation?

This issue looks at some of the thornier aspects of gender in F/LOSS art 
and design. In discussing gendered work, the push for greater and 
greater inclusion in our communities, and representations of gender in 
our artistic practices, among others, we hope to add and amplify voices 
in the discussion.

Gendering F/LOSS is the second issue in volume two of Libre Graphics 
magazine (ISSN 1925-1416). Libre Graphics magazine is a print 
publication devoted to showcasing and promoting work created with 
Free/Libre Open Source Software. We accept work about or including 
artistic practices which integrate Free, Libre and Open software, 
standards, culture, methods and licenses. To find out more about the 
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the Libre Graphics magazine editorial team,

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Dave Crossland | 21 Jan 23:20 2014

Coming to LGM?


Are any FontForge contributors attending LGM this year? Will you be
covering your expenses yourself, or will you need having travel
expenses reimbursed? How much? Feel free to reply offlist :)



Dave Crossland | 13 Jan 08:05 2014

Fwd: [LGM] Only 3 days days left to submit!

I put in a general Fontforge presentation, would be great for ff users to present their use of ff :)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Femke Snelting" <>
Date: 12 Jan 2014 11:48
Subject: [LGM] Only 3 days days left to submit!
To: <>

Only 3 days days left to submit talks -- even with the expected last minute rush, I think we could do with some more proposals by now ... So if you know of anyone hesitating, please make sure they don't miss the deadline.

So far, 26 proposals have been submitted by 23 people. There are currently 3 short talks, 15 presentations, 5 workshops and 3 discussions, meetings or hackathons submitted.

Live: (thank you ale!)

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Raphaël Bastide | 19 Dec 11:27 2013

Prototypo demo

The app will be released as open source as they say on the website.
Those guys will need support (crowdfounding).

Raphaël Bastide

vernon adams | 18 Dec 19:31 2013

Re: [GFD] Re: Anitype!

I’ve been wondering if the technology can be applied to other more interesting uses.

On 18 Dec 2013, at 09:31, Richard Fink <rfink0553@...> wrote:

> I had checked this out when Dave first posted it and I think it's dynamite. I can't wait to see this done with
other letterforms.
> There are sections in the work of Professor Richard Lanham (an expert in Rhetoric and the use of words who's
written some McLuhanesque stuff describing letterforms snaking and jumping around just like this)
Anyway, it reminded me of Lanham's writings.
> Prescience.
> yes, I know that many designers and certainly most print font creators are going to look upon this as the
second coming of the BLINK tag but I think it will find it's place.
> Very cool.  
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:48:08 PM UTC-5, Dave Crossland wrote:
> the
> "Anitype asks a simple question: what if letters could move? 
> For thousands of years, letters have sat static on the page, but 
> thanks to today's modern devices, they could do a lot more — they 
> could dance and jump and wriggle their way across the screen. And you 
> could help decide how they move. 
> Anitype invites you to animate letters with JavaScript, so we can 
> begin to see what an animated typeface might look like on the web." 
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Dave Crossland | 10 Dec 22:48 2013


"Anitype asks a simple question: what if letters could move?

For thousands of years, letters have sat static on the page, but
thanks to today's modern devices, they could do a lot more — they
could dance and jump and wriggle their way across the screen. And you
could help decide how they move.

Anitype invites you to animate letters with JavaScript, so we can
begin to see what an animated typeface might look like on the web."

Dave Crossland | 26 Nov 22:55 2013

ATypI 2011 Letter2 videos now online

Mark Barratt writes on the AtypI list:

Three presentations from the Letter.2 conference in Buenos Aires in
2011 are now available on the ATypI site. Contributions from Peter
Bilak, John Hudson, and Gerry Leonidas & Fiona Ross were captured on
video and are the first of many to be published over the coming weeks
and months.

They are at

Peter Bilak discusses the ‘Expanding possibilities of typography’,
covering language, modern dance, rhythms, and... typography.

John Hudson presents ‘Athena Ruby: when shape has meaning’, about the
work of his foundry, Tyro Typeworks, in developing a typeface to meet
the needs of scholars who catalogue and study Byzantine seals and

Gerry Leonidas & Fiona Ross, from Reading University's Department of
Typography & Graphic Communication, talk about their approach to
research-based design at the Department's well-known Masters degree
course in typeface design, and approach summarised as ‘Think it
All presentations are in English; introductions are in Spanish.