Andrey V. Panov | 18 Feb 2010 06:10
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DejaRip

Anatoletype has released commercial DejaRip font. They claim "its proportions 
are based on DejaVu fonts".

http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/anatoletype/deja-rip/
http://anatoletype.net/fonts/dejarip/

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Stephen Hartke | 18 Feb 2010 15:56
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Re: DejaRip

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Andrey V. Panov <panov <at> canopus.iacp.dvo.ru> wrote:
Anatoletype has released commercial DejaRip font. They claim "its proportions
are based on DejaVu fonts".

Interesting!  I'm not sure what they mean by "its proportions are based on DejaVu". DejaRip (or more specifically, DejaWeb which is free at the moment on MyFonts) is narrower (it does not have the same metrics), and most of the letter shapes have been changed to be more "humanist".

Given that they're claiming DejaRip is not derived from DejaVu, I wonder why they chose to have a name that is so close.

Best wishes,
Stephen

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Andrey V. Panov | 19 Feb 2010 07:57
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Re: DejaRip

On 19 февраля 2010, Stephen Hartke wrote:
> Interesting!  I'm not sure what they mean by "its proportions are based on
> DejaVu". DejaRip (or more specifically, DejaWeb which is free at the moment
> on MyFonts) is narrower (it does not have the same metrics), and most of
> the letter shapes have been changed to be more "humanist".

Heights of letters in DejaWeb are the same as for DejaVu/Vera fonts. The width 
of horizontal stems is close to latter.  It looks like modified condensed variant 
of the DejaVu/Vera Sans fonts.

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Carles | 19 Feb 2010 10:23
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Using Deja Vu font in hardware GUI?

Is it licit to use rasterized bitmaps (fonts) of Deja Vu TTF (Font Software) in
hardware products? The license talks about free use of the Font Software and I
asume it's talking about the Glifs.

If I rasterize the font and use it for a comercial work, a hardware product,
must I enclose the license somewhere in the manual or as I long I don't not use
the Font Software (the glifs available to be renderized at any size) but a
representation obtained with that Font Software (that would be called derivative
work?) I don't need to do so.

Thanks and sorry for my poor english.

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Nicolas Mailhot | 19 Feb 2010 11:13
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Re: Using Deja Vu font in hardware GUI?

Le vendredi 19 février 2010 à 09:23 +0000, Carles a écrit :
> Is it licit to use rasterized bitmaps (fonts) of Deja Vu TTF (Font Software) in
> hardware products? The license talks about free use of the Font Software and I
> asume it's talking about the Glifs.
> 
> If I rasterize the font and use it for a comercial work, a hardware product,
> must I enclose the license somewhere in the manual or as I long I don't not use
> the Font Software (the glifs available to be renderized at any size) but a
> representation obtained with that Font Software (that would be called derivative
> work?) I don't need to do so.

Copyright applies both to a work and its derivatives. So yes just
because you rasterize the font does not mean the font license is moot.
However the DejaVu license is rather liberal, so as long as you stick to
its conditions there should be no problem using it in a hardware
product. And yes, you need to keep the license somewhere with the
product, if only not to forget the legal conditions later.

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Carles | 19 Feb 2010 11:43
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Re: Using Deja Vu font in hardware GUI?

Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot <at> ...> writes:
> 
> Le vendredi 19 février 2010 à 09:23 +0000, Carles a écrit :
> > "Question about embedding rasterized font bitmaps in commercial hardware 
product and license compliance"
> 
> Copyright applies both to a work and its derivatives. So yes just
> because you rasterize the font does not mean the font license is moot.
> However the DejaVu license is rather liberal, so as long as you stick to
> its conditions there should be no problem using it in a hardware
> product. And yes, you need to keep the license somewhere with the
> product, if only not to forget the legal conditions later.
> 

Hello Nicolas,

Do you know if enclosing the license in the products manual is enough or it
should be accessible through the product (the system where the derivative works
is in use). In a "about" screen for example.

Sorry for all the bugging but I'm a green apple when it cames to legal issues.

Thanks again in advance.

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Nicolas Mailhot | 19 Feb 2010 20:59
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Re: Using Deja Vu font in hardware GUI?

Le vendredi 19 février 2010 à 10:43 +0000, Carles a écrit :

> Do you know if enclosing the license in the products manual is enough or it
> should be accessible through the product (the system where the derivative works
> is in use). In a "about" screen for example.

IIRC the Vera license that DejaVu inherited does not specify a specific
way to convey the license. Just use whatever you feel is most
appropriate.

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Rainer Brinkmann | 27 Feb 2010 16:40
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Missing numeral glyphs

DejaVu offers a wide range of glyphs for letters and symbols, but nearly every font I know -- and DejaVu as
well -- lacks some special glyps for numerals:

- In Europe and other regions of the world, i.e., New England, the numeral '7' usually gets a bar, as seen with
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_%28number%29. This is the fact not only in hand-writing!

- In Poland, the numeral '2' often gets a diagonal bar to avoid any confusion with the letter 'Z'.

There are more examples to be found in the Internet for other numerals, especially for Asian languages.

 

 
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