Davide Viti | 7 Jul 13:32 2007
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Bug#431983: ttf-dejavu: extra space at the top of the lines in OpenOffice.org

FYI,

Davide

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Subject: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#431983: ttf-dejavu: extra space at the top of
	the lines in OpenOffice.org

Package: ttf-dejavu
Version: 2.18-1

After upgrading from 2.17-1 to 2.18-1, I noticed that in OpenOffice.org
 lines had extra space at the top. Downgrading to 2.17-1 fixed it,
upgrading again, broke it again.

-------------------- Top margin of the line
     |
Text |
-------------------- Bottom margin of the line

     ^- cursor

I have not noticed any differences in any other application. Have not
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Helge Hielscher | 8 Jul 22:05 2007
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Re: DejaVu Sans Semi-Bold (was: [Scribus] Font Help Please)

Hello,

On 7/5/07, Helge Hielscher <hhielscher@...> wrote:
> HARENDAL.hirwen offered to create a semi-bold variant
> of vera/dejavu.
> Would you please be so kind to contact him about how to proceed?

For the time being he has put the fonts at his page:
http://perso.orange.fr/arkandis/ADF/workshop.htm

Regards,
Helge

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Davide Viti | 10 Jul 21:37 2007
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Re: [g-i] Use of ttf-dejavu for rendering Georgian text

Hi,

On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 02:31:37PM +0530, Praveen A wrote:
> 
> Davide,
> 
> Can you include Malayalam glyphs also in Dejavu? How the glyphs has to
> be submitted? Giving you the Malayalam font will do or should we give
> you the complete Dejavu with Malayalam Glyphs added.

one of the main goals of the Dejavu project is quality; glyphs have to look 
consistent with the look and feel of the existing ranges so "random inclusion"
is not allowed.

I'm bringing this discussion to the Dejavu ml, so that details and doubts can
be properly discussed.

I'm really glad there's interest in extending the coverage of Dejavu to new ranges!

thanx,
Davide
Boncek, John | 10 Jul 22:38 2007

characters excessively spaced in DejaVu Sans

I installed DejaVu Sans under MontaVista Linux / X Windows and got display
with way too much space between characters, like this, 

	c  h  a  r  a  c  t  e  r  s    s  p  a  c  e  d    o  u  t

in all text strings using both English (Latin) and Arabic characters.
Other fonts already on the system still look OK.  This font looks this way
in the xfontsel utility as well as in application programs.  I am new to
font installation so I suspect I neglected to run some configuration
utility or modify some configuration file that's needed.  I used 

	ttmkfdir -o fonts.scale
	mkfontdir

as instructed in this system.  Does the above appearance suggest what I am
missing?  Thanks for your attention.
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Ben Laenen | 10 Jul 23:34 2007
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Re: characters excessively spaced in DejaVu Sans


Hi,

I wonder if this may have to do with some bogus metadata set by 
ttmkfdir. We've had a problem reported once that the fonts were tagged 
as "character cell" fonts (special font type for CJK fonts), only 
because DejaVu had many glyphs in it.

So now I wonder if your programs are rendering the fonts wrongly because 
of that.

You should be able to manually override that by editing your fonts.scale 
file: the line

DejaVuSans.ttf -misc-DejaVu Sans-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-c-0-iso8859-1
                            c here means character cell: ^^^

should become

DejaVuSans.ttf -misc-DejaVu Sans-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1

with the p from proportional.

That's a rather dumb bug in ttmkfdir (it just checks how many glyphs 
there are, more than 2000 triggers the character cell property).

Usually, you shouldn't really install fonts that way of course, it's 
quite legacy, as you'd use the proper GUI methods in KDE or Gnome now. 
But I guess that's not really an option for embedded systems...

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Boncek, John | 11 Jul 00:12 2007

Re: characters excessively spaced in DejaVu Sans

Indeed, all 15 DejaVu lines (from just the one .ttf file) did have c
instead of p as you suspected.   I corrected that and rebooted but it
didn't change anything.  I tried the LGC version as you suggested also and
that does the same, after again correcting the fonts.scale file for both
fonts.  A screenshot of the app running DejaVu Sans and of xfontsel
running with DejaVu Sans LGC are attached.

By the way, I am new to this list and am seeing some posts, including
mine, come up on the web as just a big mass of garbled text (as if
encrypted).  Others look fine.  This happens in Netscape 7, IE 6, and a
brand-new installation of Firefox, all running under Windows XP Pro.

-----Original Message-----
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To: dejavu-fonts <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Boncek, John
Subject: Re: [DejaVu-fonts] characters excessively spaced in DejaVu Sans


Hi,

I wonder if this may have to do with some bogus metadata set by 
ttmkfdir. We've had a problem reported once that the fonts were tagged 
as "character cell" fonts (special font type for CJK fonts), only 
because DejaVu had many glyphs in it.

So now I wonder if your programs are rendering the fonts wrongly because 
of that.

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Ed Trager | 1 Jul 02:06 2007
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Re: including Chinese ideographs?

Hi, Arne,

This is very promising stuff!

I've put the link up on the TextLayout2007 presentations page --

http://unifont.org/TextLayout2007/

Thanks for your informative explanations of TTC & TTF files.  I think
I should now be able to give a reasonably informative presentation
regarding this exciting project.

Best Wishes - Ed Trager

On 6/30/07, Arne Goetje <arne <at> linux.org.tw> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> I have put a proof of concept online:
> http://debian.linux.org.tw/~arne/cjkunifonts/heiti_yuanti/
>
> the python script fontforge_demo2.py was generated from the single.fnt
> text file and contains for now only the basic glyphs. All other Hanzi in
> the BMP can be genrated from these basic glyphs. But that would be a
> later step.
> The script opens Untitled.sfd and saves the outcome to NewFont.sfd.
> NewFont.sfd contains only strokes, not complete outlines.
> I then seleceted all glyphs and did Expand Stroke, once for Heiti, once
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Ben Laenen | 1 Jul 17:02 2007
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2.18 has been released


Hi all,

DejaVu Fonts 2.18 has been released.

The files can be downloaded from
http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download

Major changes in this release includes the addition of Georgian into all 
styles, and N'Ko and Tifinagh to Sans. Serif (Bold) Oblique was renamed 
Serif (Bold) Italic to reflect the italic style. Improvements were made 
in Hebrew and Lao. Also new are the double-struck letters to Sans. 
Smaller fixes were done in various other glyphs and in hinting 
instructions.

SVN is now open again.

The next release is scheduled for August 5.

Greetings
Ben

Benjamin Esham | 1 Jul 20:18 2007
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[meta] Can we add this mailing list to Gmane?

Hi all,

I recently started using Gmane (http://www.gmane.org), a free mail-to- 
news gateway that allows mailing list users to view messages through  
a Usenet newsreader.  Many, if not most high-profile open source  
projects use Gmane, so I was writing to see whether there's any  
opposition to adding DejaVu-Fonts to Gmane.

If we were to do so, everyone would be able to post to and read the  
list just as before, but it would also be possible to view the list  
through a newsreader.  Gmane has a comprehensive FAQ at http:// 
gmane.org/faq.php, and information on adding a list is available at  
http://gmane.org/add.php.  If there's no significant opposition to  
this idea within a couple of days, I'll go ahead and add the list  
myself.

Cheers,
--

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Nicolas Mailhot | 1 Jul 22:15 2007
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Re: [meta] Can we add this mailing list to Gmane?

Le dimanche 01 juillet 2007 à 14:18 -0400, Benjamin Esham a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently started using Gmane (http://www.gmane.org), a free mail-to- 
> news gateway that allows mailing list users to view messages through  
> a Usenet newsreader.  Many, if not most high-profile open source  
> projects use Gmane, so I was writing to see whether there's any  
> opposition to adding DejaVu-Fonts to Gmane.

Just do it sf mail archives are pretty broken

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