a swalleh | 17 Jun 2013 07:22
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new charaters

Dear All

I wonder if someone could include these three characters in the Dejavu Serif  font and its condensed version and italics.

These are:

       ˬ               02EC    modifier letter voicing

 

        ͠               0360   combining double tilde

 

       ˯             02EF   caron below

 I use these  characters in my transliteration of oriental language.

This would be helpful.

Many thanks.

Kind regards.

Aswalleh

 

 

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Martin Ponweiser | 19 May 2013 20:30
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Embedding in app?

Hi, I have searched the mailing list and Google but haven't found a clear answer to this:


Can I embed Deja Vu Sans in a smartphone app, include the license somewhere in the packaged app (however not accessible to a normal user) and be on the legal safe side?

Thanks,
Martin

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Alexei Colin | 18 May 2013 22:29
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Glyph names for Unicode digit subscripts: u208*

Hello,

>From debugging conversion of Tk canvas with Unicode text to eps: the
glyph names for Unicode digit subscripts (u2080, u2081, etc) in
DejaVuSans glyf table seem unexpected:

$ grep -E 'TTGlyph.*(oneinferior|onesuperior|uni2081)' DejaVuSans.ttx
    <TTGlyph name="onesuperior" xMin="137" yMin="668" xMax="709"
yMax="1503">
    <TTGlyph name="uni2081" xMin="137" yMin="0" xMax="709" yMax="835">

>From Adobe's "directions" [1] it seems that glyphs should be named
"uni*" only if the corresponding Unicode code is not listed in The
Mapping [2]. The 'oneinferior' is listed, but the font names it
"uni2081". The inconsistency between 'onesuperior' and 'oneinferior' is
also unexpected.

[1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/opentype/archives/glyph.html
[2] http://www.adobe.com/devnet-archive/opentype/archives/glyphlist.txt

-alexei

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Carmen Torralvo | 3 Apr 2013 19:05
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A doubt about the fonts

Hello my name is Carmen. I develop CD programs for disabled people. I would like to know if I could use your fonts. The programs contains tales, games such as crosswords and so on. They are compiled CD. So althoght it is a proffessional project and I sell the CD's the fonts are not there by themselves, and the user cannot instal in the computer the fonts for their use. I am selling the work I make ussing your fonts. Sometimes my work consist in writings and sometimes are pictures of the fonts that I treat as dramatic caracters in a motion picture so I modify them to tell a story. Sometimes I include also a printed version or a PDF version. Thank you very much in advance for your time.

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Carmen

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Christian PERRIER | 31 Mar 2013 11:59
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Debian bug #413571 for DejaVu font still present in latest SVN snapshot

While packaging the latest SVN snapshot from upstream DejaVu SVN, I
confirmed that Debian bug #413571, where the hyphen is sometimes too
close to the letter on its right in Sans Oblique, is still here. 

See attached screenshot.

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Christopher Culver | 15 Jan 2013 19:50
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Placement of diaeresis plus circumflex

No messages on this list since last August, and no new version for a
year now. I sincerely hope the project isn’t dead. I see there have been
some SVN commits. Why not release a new version of DejaVu just to show
that the project is alive?

I would like to ask one improvement to be made for the next version. In
a text I am working with and setting in DejaVu Sans, I frequently use ä̂,
a character consisting of U+00E4 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS
plus U+0302 COMBINING CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT. While the circumflex should
appear over the diaeresis, one is just placed on top of the other and
the result is illegible. Please tweak the spacing of these two
diacritics in combination.

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Louis Simard | 12 Aug 2012 23:46
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Patch v1: Hangul Syllables in Sans Regular (+ issues)

Greetings,

I come to you today with a preliminary patch for my Hangul Syllables
proposal in DejaVu Sans Regular. It is a huge patch, so I am certain
there are some issues (some of which I already know about, see below)
that will need to be addressed for inclusion into the font.

-- The Contents --

This patch contains 1 new file, scripts/create-korean.py (executable),
which requires the Python FontForge extension to be present. The
script does not run in the makefile, so manual adjustments can be made
to the references in syllables manually, but the ideal thing would be
that the script can make all the syllables without manual adjustments.
This patch modifies src/DejaVuSans.sfd to add 11396 new glyphs, 11172
of which are Hangul Syllables and 224 of which are unencoded jamo
templates used by the script.
The contents of this patch are released into the public domain.

-- Known Issues --

* Curvature issue in template glyphs kor_init_s, kor_init_ss,
kor_init_j, kor_init_ch, kor_fina_s, kor_fina_ss, kor_fina_j and
kor_fina_ch, all variations. I have no idea how those glyphs should be
shaped, and I had to battle FontForge's UI to make the glyphs as they
are now because of point interpolation messing up control points'
coordinates.

* Glyph overlap issues in the syllables. The small dots coming out of
horizontal vowels "combine" with the initial and final consonants; the
horizontal and vertical vowels overlap and combine; and finally, the
vertical vowels combine with initial consonants, creating ambiguous
syllables like U+ACB9 "GYEOB" which looks like it has YAE instead of
YEO as its vertical vowel.

* Weight. I made these glyphs to have the same horizontal and vertical
stems as the rest of the characters in DejaVu, which is horizontal
stems 170 high and vertical stems 203 wide. However, initial and final
'r' and 't' (they look like a squared 2 and an E, respectively)
already show signs that they can't be bolded as much as other
characters already existing in DejaVu Sans Bold. (For example glyphs
showing this problem, see U+B77D..B9C7 and U+D0C1..D30B.)

How should I deal with the weight issue?
a) Reduce the stems in Sans so that the Sans Bold variant can have
double-weight stems without ambiguity in 'r' and 't'.
b) Reduce the bolding factor in Sans Bold just for 'r' and 't' so that
they can be unambiguous instead of appearing as large black squares.
Keep the others' bolding factor constant.

* Optical centering of the vertical vowel. A problem with some of the
vertical vowels is that they have two vertical lines instead of one,
so the alignment on the syllable is thrown off. Perhaps there should
be a separate variant for kor_init when the vertical vowel is wider?
(reducing the width of the initial jamo a bit more) For example glyphs
showing this problem, see U+D330..D33F (Korean Syllables PAE__).

Comments and improvement on the patch are both welcome.

Regards,
- Louis Simard
Attachment (sans-hangul-v1.patch.gz): application/x-gzip, 112 KiB
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Louis Simard | 2 Aug 2012 01:25
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Proposal: Hangul Syllables (U+AC00..D7A3)

Greetings dejavu-fonts,

My first message to this list is one to introduce a very large
proposal for DejaVu, and that's the Hangul Syllables block introduced
in Unicode 2.0. I've already generated the Hangul Syllables block for
another font, and I feel that generating it for the DejaVu fonts would
be another good step.

I plan to create the following things in DejaVu Sans (all variants)
and DejaVu Sans Mono (all variants):
* Up to 512 unencoded glyphs to serve as the hangul jamo. These would
be created by hand, from scratch, after looking at the horizontal and
vertical stems in DejaVu for weight consistency. I may look at the
output of other fonts to determine the general shape the glyphs should
have, but NOT copy from their outlines.
* A script, put in [dejavu-fonts trunk]/dejavu-fonts/scripts, to
create the 11172 syllables (U+AC00..D7A3) from references to the base
jamo. The script would NOT be used in the Makefile; it would only be
used whenever needed to create the characters for a variant, or
recreate them after a change in the base jamo that requires rebuilding
the characters.
* The 11172 syllables proper, created by the above script. These would
extend from y=0 to y=capHeight with 2% overshoot for the circle jamo
(ieung).
* Horizontal metrics for the 11172 syllables, monospace in DejaVu Sans
according to common usage. In DejaVu Sans Mono, the characters would
have the width already defined in the rest of the font.
* Spacing jamo (U+3131..318E), except obsolete jamo (U+3168, 316C,
3170..3171, 3178..3179, 317F..3184, 318D..318E) and HANGUL FILLER
(U+3164).

I already know about DejaVu's copyright policy, which is to release
everything into the public domain. Everything above would be in the
public domain.

I may create the following things:
* Hinting for the 11172 syllables, if those can be geerated by the
script or are reasonably accurate using FontForge's automatic hinter.
* Hinting for the unencoded jamo, if the hints can be carried over by
references in the syllables' glyphs.

I will not create the following things:
* Kerning. I don't think this is necessary for these glyphs, because
they are meant to be monospace.
* Combining jamo (U+1100..11FF, D7B0..D7FB). I don't have the
requisite experience to make these, and I'm not sure word processors
all behave correctly in the face of combining characters so my testing
would be highly limited.
* Hangul tables in OpenType, such as Hanja to Hangul.
* Vertical metrics for vertically typeset hangeul.

In particular, I'm not planning to create glyphs in DejaVu Serif
unless I learn enough about what style the jamo should adopt in a
serif font. I'll also probably need testing done, as well as the input
of an expert at two points: once to validate the jamo design, and once
to validate the syllable design.

Thoughts?

- Louis Simard

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Nathan Wells | 31 Jul 2012 05:08
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Adding Khmer Script?

Hello,


I currently work and live in Cambodia and I am interested in seeing support for the Khmer language added to DejaVu.  I have contacted Danh Hong who has created most of the Khmer Unicode fonts that are available (his fonts are also on the Google Web Fonts API - www.google.com/webfonts/ under Khmer), and he is interested in adding Khmer, but needs more information on how to go about adding Khmer to DejaVu.
Would someone be willing to help guide us through the process? It would be a great addition to have a multi-lingual font for Cambodians to use.

Thank you,
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Pete McKinney | 2 Jul 2012 19:10

OTF format

We are looking for the DejaVu fonts in OTF format.  We've tried using some of the free online converters, but the results don't seem valid.  Does anyone have a link to an OTF conversion of the DejaVu fonts?

Thanks,

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Sophoklis Goumas | 23 May 2012 07:50
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DejaVu Sans Mono ceases to show on Powershell, Command Prompt

Hello everyone and since this is my first post in this mailing list,
I shouldn't neglect expressing my thanks to the makers of DejaVu font family.

I did what I had to do [1] in order to have DejaVu Sans Mono
to my PowerShell and/or Command Prompt windows in Microsoft Windows XP.

Everything works fine until after a random reboot, somehow, it will cease
showing DejaVu Sans Mono and it will show DejaVu Sans Mono Oblique, instead.

Oddly, the relevant registry keys/values when it shows DejaVu Sans Mono Oblique
remain the same with those when showing DejaVu Sans Mono, and they are:

[HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Console\TrueTypeFont]
"000"="Lucida Console"
"00"="Droid Sans Mono"
"0"="DejaVu Sans Mono"

So, any ideas why might this be happening, any advices on how to debug this?

Thanks in advance for your time and attention,
Sophoklis

[1] http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2009/07/24/windows-console-fonts/

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