James A. Donald | 1 Jan 2011 07:03
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Re: [gsc] slave rebellions

>>> Did the "bank" risk the "value" that was "loaned"?

James A. Donald:
>> Yes in that the worst behaved banks went broke the most,
>> and were absorbed by less badly behaved banks, in particular
>> Washington Mutual and Countrywide.

On 2010-12-31 5:31 AM, Passive PROFITS wrote:
> James friend, you're making a bigger fool out of yourself with each new comment,

Reality is that the cause of the crisis is not evil 
JOOS^H^H^H^HInternational Bankers, but that people borrowed money they 
could not afford to buy houses at excessively high prices - the 
evildoers are ordinary people, in America mostly Hispanics, often 
Mexicans with not much English or education buying multi million dollar 
houses.  The bankers were wicked in that they enabled this in the 
expectation that they would be bailed out by the taxpayer, and in the 
hope of earning political favor, but what the bankers did LOST THEM AND 
THEIR BANKS MONEY, and they knew or should have known it would lose them 
money.

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James A. Donald | 1 Jan 2011 07:52
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Re: [gsc] slave rebellions

On 2010-12-31 6:43 AM, Passive PROFITS wrote:
 > James,
 >
 > Man, you're such an ass.  "Winning takes what it takes, and
 > if evil is not to be permitted to triumph, you have to do
 > what it takes."
 >
 > Which obviously implies 'be more evil than the evil you
 > confront',

Yes, the good guys *do* have to be more evil than the evil
they confront, but when the good guys win, and evil is
defeated, they can then, and only then, afford to stop being
evil.  If the bad guys win, having won, they can then afford
to be even more evil.  The Khmer Rouge and the Japanese are
excellent examples of where this leads.

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Niels Dettenbach | 1 Jan 2011 08:26

AW: Re: [gsc] I didn't know Houston, TX was considered to be "OFFSHORE"

> it is also important for a self expanding encryptedmesh network as well ...
This sounds very interesting to me, especially if i see such a solution of a currency independent., non
centric and (hopefully) open source based trade market / exchange for currencies / bonds / shares etc. for
the very important base of a future success of free currencies / bonds / share markets.

Another important point i assume is an open, transparent modularized API and/or protocol standard to
allow a wide range of different implementations (for security reasons) as new applications (i.e.
payment / clearing / business concepts) - ideally easily to understand and implement as such successful
IP protocols like HTTP (web), SMTP (email) or even XMMP (IM) - possibly combined with a transparent and
simple as possible XML syntax.

But where or why do you see a "mesh network" required? 

Or do you possibly mean something like an virtual (!) mesh network or even better called "P2P network" (like
i.e. Bitcoin) or maybe a "leveled" P2P net (with different level / specialized node types)?

Many thanks.
Cheers,

Niels.
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Kevin Wilkerson | 1 Jan 2011 23:13

Re: [gsc] slave rebellions

James A. Donald wrote:
> the evildoers are ordinary people, in America mostly Hispanics, often
> Mexicans with not much English or education buying multi million dollar
> houses.  The bankers were wicked in that they enabled this...

No.  The evildoers are the bankers.  Every bank loan by definition
consists of currency which was created by the act of lending it.  This
is fraud.  A legalized form of fraud to be sure, but fraud nonetheless.
 Fraud is evil.  It doesn't require absurdly unsuitable borrowers,
international conspiracies, or taxpayer bailouts before banking becomes
criminal.  It is a criminal enterprise ab initio.

Such a system cannot be fixed.  It can only be abandoned.

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Patrick Chkoreff | 2 Jan 2011 01:23
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[gsc] Loom update

https://loom.cc/news

Sat 2011-01-01 : Concurrent Reads and Writes Now Done

Loom uses only the file system for data storage now, with no central
locks and no GNU DB.  Will publish source code soon

-- Patrick

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Ref | 2 Jan 2011 02:27

Re: [gsc] A CIA Study Of The Internet.....

> However, this sounds to me like a piece written by someone outside of
> government.
>

Definitely.
auto17703 | 2 Jan 2011 05:55
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[gsc] Kingpin of largest US data breaches


2011-1-2:

A government informant who helped put away nearly 30 fellow hackers 
five years ago, is considered by US law enforcement officials to be 
the kingpin of the biggest data breaches in US history.

Albert Gonzalez, 28, of Miami, Florida, was indicted yesterday for 
the third time in connection with the separate major data breaches. 

...

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/scrt/E1E1FDB217F28600CC257616007
3ED6F

Greg Horn

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auto17703 | 2 Jan 2011 06:06
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Re: [gsc] Kingpin of largest US data breaches

Also in the article are these statement:

"In 2004, Gonzalez provided information that helped the US 
Attorney's Office in Newark, NJ bust up what at the time was one of 
the largest online centers for stolen identity and credit card 
information. The online underground marketplace, dubbed the 
Shadowcrew group, was charged with trafficking more than 1.5 
million stolen credit and ATM card numbers."

A copy of the Nov 2005 press release of their guilty pleas is here:
http://www.blackmarketgold.com/shadowcrew.txt

Greg Horn

On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 23:55:08 -0500 auto17703@... wrote:
>2011-1-2:
>
>A government informant who helped put away nearly 30 fellow 
>hackers 
>five years ago, is considered by US law enforcement officials to 
>be 
>the kingpin of the biggest data breaches in US history.
>
>Albert Gonzalez, 28, of Miami, Florida, was indicted yesterday for 
>
>the third time in connection with the separate major data 
>breaches. 
>
>...
>
(Continue reading)

Shane Smith | 2 Jan 2011 09:18
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RE: [gsc] Kingpin of largest US data breaches


> Albert Gonzalez, 28, of Miami, Florida, was indicted yesterday for 
> the third time in connection with the separate major data breaches. 

CumbaJohnny  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gonzalez
 		 	   		  
auto17703 | 2 Jan 2011 11:56
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[gsc] Valedictorian Speaks Out Against Schooling

Valedictorian Speaks Out Against Schooling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M4tdMsg3ts

Greg Horn

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