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Triple "J" | 1 Sep 2009 02:15
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Re: [gsc] real fractional bancing

One must only open ones eyes and look around to find serfs, subjects,
slaves, ect. Most are being imprisoned by the main stream media, How do you
think the current POTUS created such a huge wave of support to bring him to
his apex. What happens when a wave crests? I think it comes down and when it
does who will get wet? That is the question my friends we are all trying not
to get our feet wet. Scurrying here and there.

祝你平安 (Peace be upon you)
             --- Nex ut tyrannus------

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 22:39, Graham Kelly <kelly_clan@...> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:59 -0400, "pintle" <pintle@...> wrote:
>
> > Not only are these workers already historically
> > financially/economically (serfs had it better than slaves) already
> > slaves, they could be told who to work for and what work to do which
> > would seem to make them full fledged slaves.
>
> So, how does one go about finding and hiring (?) fully fledged slaves?
>
> On an unrelated issue, and quite by chance, I sold gold today, scant
> minutes before the drop. Pure chance. GoldNowBanc has now reduced the
> gold backing from approx. 367% down to approx. 168% (of customer
> liability) Obviously, that figure will never drop below 100%. I call
> it fractional bancing; the customers own a fraction of the gold
> backing the banc.
>
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Triple "J" | 1 Sep 2009 02:23
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Re: [gsc] Look't 'er go!

For me it seems if we break it down to its simplest form which is: Supply
and Demand. ie; Summer Mining season. Recent big AU sell offs by world govs
= more supply. Demand is lower in fall because people are thinking of
stocking up for the coming winter.  What do ya'll think, does it sound to
simplistic?
             --- Nex ut tyrannus------

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 06:58, Kevin Wilkerson <kbw@...> wrote:

> Sidd wrote:
> > Stock market is down over 1% since open as well. Maybe insignificant...
> but
> > maybe not ;)
>
> What occurred in the US markets looks pretty insignificant.  However the
> Shanghai Composite was down 7%, which probably explains the big drops at
> the open.  Folks expected the same and didn't get it.  Buying evidently
> remains strong.
>
> Seasonally speaking, the Sept/Oct time frame is generally good for the
> metals and poor for stocks.  Absent six-sigma black swans like last
> year, of course.  ;-)
>
>
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Sidd | 1 Sep 2009 06:55
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Re: [gsc] Look't 'er go!

2009/9/1 Triple "J" <jgoldenfinger@...>

>  What do ya'll think, does it sound to simplistic?
>

Yes.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 06:58, Kevin Wilkerson <kbw@...> wrote:

> What occurred in the US markets looks pretty insignificant.  However the
> Shanghai Composite was down 7%, which probably explains the big drops at
> the open.  Folks expected the same and didn't get it.  Buying evidently
> remains strong.

Well, maybe but... breadth and volume were solidly negative today. By the
close there were 2.8 stocks down for every one up on the NYSE and down
volume was 80 percent of total volume. Total Big Board volume of 1.37
billion shares (CQG data) increased significantly from the past several
sessions and amounted the highest since August 21.

> Seasonally speaking, the Sept/Oct time frame is generally good for the
> metals and poor for stocks.

Perhaps, but take note of the subtle shift that has taken place over the
last 5 months. Since April, Gold has moved in sync with stocks instead of
the traditional opposite. Although they have not made highs and lows at the
same time, they have rallied and declined together. This is exactly as one
would expect in a deflationary environment.

I think a lot of people are going to be surprised/shocked/horrified this
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The Phoenix Dollar - Net | 1 Sep 2009 07:27

Re: [gsc] Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease

Hello George,

Monday, August 31, 2009, 1:01:20 AM, you wrote:

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html

> Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals
> concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America

> By Jo Macfarlane
> Last updated at 11:05 PM on 15th August 2009

> Prevention: Is the swine flu jab safe?

> A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease
> has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential
> letter.

its confidential because its criminal to murder people.

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Gordon
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The Phoenix Dollar - Net | 1 Sep 2009 07:31

Re[2]: [gsc] real fractional bancing

Hello Triple,

Monday, August 31, 2009, 5:15:23 PM, you wrote:

> One must only open ones eyes and look around to find serfs, subjects,
> slaves, ect.

One could even start right where they are by locating the nearest
mirror.

> Most are being imprisoned by the main stream media, How do you
> think the current POTUS created such a huge wave of support to bring him to
> his apex. What happens when a wave crests? I think it comes down and when it
> does who will get wet?

Everyone. Wet with blood. Blood is already on their hands.

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Gordon
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The Phoenix Dollar - Net | 1 Sep 2009 07:33

Re[2]: [gsc] Look't 'er go!

Hello Triple,

Monday, August 31, 2009, 5:23:00 PM, you wrote:

> For me it seems if we break it down to its simplest form which is: Supply
> and Demand. ie; Summer Mining season. Recent big AU sell offs by world govs
> = more supply. Demand is lower in fall because people are thinking of
> stocking up for the coming winter.  What do ya'll think, does it sound to
> simplistic?
>              --- Nex ut tyrannus------

> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 06:58, Kevin Wilkerson <kbw@...> wrote:

>> Sidd wrote:
>> > Stock market is down over 1% since open as well. Maybe insignificant...
>> but
>> > maybe not ;)
>>
>> What occurred in the US markets looks pretty insignificant.  However the
>> Shanghai Composite was down 7%, which probably explains the big drops at
>> the open.  Folks expected the same and didn't get it.  Buying evidently
>> remains strong.
>>
>> Seasonally speaking, the Sept/Oct time frame is generally good for the
>> metals and poor for stocks.  Absent six-sigma black swans like last
>> year, of course.  ;-)
>>
>>

to use charts to track today's markets seems to me to be asinine. Don't
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R.A. Hettinga | 1 Sep 2009 13:06

[gsc] Liechtenstein signs taxation agreement with Luxembourg

<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/6099680/Liechtenstein-signs-taxation-agreement-with-Luxembourg.html 
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The Telegraph

Liechtenstein signs taxation agreement with Luxembourg

The bilateral; document is the third to be signed by the principality  
since March and signals more openness in its banking practices.

By Emma Hartley
Published: 9:41AM BST 31 Aug 2009
Liechtenstein's bilateral agreement with Luxembourg is the third such  
agreement it's made.

The principality of Liechtenstein has signed a double taxation  
agreement with Luxembourg, which represents a step away from its  
historical identity as a tax haven.

The agreement will promote the exchange of data between the two small  
countries that will allow each to clamp down on tax cheats.

This is the third such treaty to be signed by Liechtenstein – the  
previous two were with the United States and Germany.

The agreements, which conform to standards recommended by the  
Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, are the result  
of a process that began in February with the sale to the German  
intelligence service of a list of Germans who banked with the LGT Bank  
in Liechtenstein.
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pintle | 1 Sep 2009 13:21
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[gsc] euro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_banknotes

...
Design changes
...
The first denomination from the new series will be issued in January
2011. The ECB will announce in time when banknotes from the first series
lose legal tender status.[14]
...

[Try to find the printer identification codes on the front of the euros!]
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pintle | 1 Sep 2009 13:37
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[gsc] when push comes to shove

China warns banks on OTC hedge defaults -report
Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:47am IST

BEIJING, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Chinese state-owned enterprises (SOEs) may
unilaterally terminate derivative contracts with six foreign banks that
provide over-the-counter commodity hedging services, a leading financial
magazine said.

China's SOE regulator, the State-owned Assets Supervision and
Administration Commission (SASAC), had told the financial institutions
that SOEs reserved the right to default on contracts, Caijing magazine
quoted an unnamed industry source as saying.

It did not name the banks or the firms in question, but said Keith
Noyes, an official with the International Swaps and Derivatives
Association, had confirmed he was aware of the letter to the banks. He
declined to comment further to Caijing.

It also cited a SASAC official as saying that almost every SOE involved
in foreign exchange or trade had some exposure to derivatives such as
crude oil, non-ferrous metals, agricultural commodities, iron ore and
coal, although only 31 SOEs were licensed to do so.

Nobody at SASAC was immediately available to comment on Saturday.

SASAC took over the job of overseeing SOEs' derivatives trading from the
securities regulator in February after several Chinese firms reported
huge losses from derivatives, and quickly tightened the rules, ordering
firms to quit risky contracts and report their positions on a quarterly
basis.
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R.A. Hettinga | 1 Sep 2009 14:43

[gsc] Fwd: Tor Browser Bundle for Gnu/Linux: a new hope


Begin forwarded message:

From: Eugen Leitl <eugen@...>
Date: September 1, 2009 8:02:47 AM GMT-04:00
To: info@..., cypherpunks@...
Subject: Tor Browser Bundle for Gnu/Linux: a new hope

----- Forwarded message from Jacob Appelbaum <jacob@...> -----

From: Jacob Appelbaum <jacob@...>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:31:21 -0700
To: or-talk@...
Subject: Tor Browser Bundle for Gnu/Linux: a new hope
User-Agent: mutt
Reply-To: or-talk@...

[I utterly fail at sending email after hacking for 18 hours.]

Hi,

I've been hacking on creating a Tor Browser Bundle for Gnu/Linux. It's
starting to get off of the ground. After I ensure that it's stable, I'll
move onto to making the Tor Browser Bundle for Mac OS X. Your feedback
and testing is greatly appreciated!

The current TBBL alpha includes Firefox, Openssl, zlib, Qt, Vidalia,
Polipo, Tor and it's all wrapped up in a nice package. It's intended to
be used on USB devices. It's designed to run on Debian Gnu/Linux systems
and may also work on Ubuntu. This is a limitation of my build
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