Re: MVS Turnkey CD version 3 - notes and suggestions
2007-07-01 03:11:35 GMT
> dave5550 wrote:
> - The version 3 CD dates from July/2002. Version 4 has been promised
> for a long time. Anyone know if and when it is coming?
Several of us folks have worked on TK4 and then some of us got sick,
really sick. Volker which has been the primary force for the MVS
turnkey has had little to no time in the past year. I recently
underwent a hospital stay for an unexpected problem.
I spearheaded a beta TK4 release back in December. A fixpack
jobstream added corrections to items we overlooked or discovered after
some public testing was done. The Beta was posted on a pay site for a
couple of months and removed after downloads dropped off. Not much
activity has been going on in the TK4 developer group since that time.
> - As I'm sure other people have found, there is a Cygwin problem in
> the CD's setup script, which causes it to fail, even though I told
> it not to install Cygwin or Hercules. When setup tries to use some
> commands, Cygwin complains that there are 2 copies of file
> cygwin1.dll and refuses to do the command.
This is a know issue, but don't know if there is a workaround posted
on Volkers' site or not. My individual fix was to rename the CYGWIN
directory to CYGWIN-real, install TK3, then rename CYGWIN-rel back to
> - For the future, I think it would be good to "decouple" the MVS 3.8
> install from Cygwin and the Hercules install, at least for the
> Windows case. Most people don't use Cygwin now (it seems to be
> fragile, especially for new users), and the Hercules install process
> is fairly well documented elsewhere. And, if MVS Turnkey really
> needs a setup script, it should not depend on bash or Cygwin. My
> feeling is that a script is not necessary, and I would prefer not to
> run a large "black box" like that unless I know it is bullet-proof.
> Why not just provide the DASD volume files and a sample Hercules
> config file that users can edit, along with instructions on what
> they may need to change in the config file? The config file is well
> documented on the Hercules home page.
There has been plenty of discussion on scripting language and choice
of Hercules executable selection in the TK4 group.
The selection of minimum vs full-blown MVS DASD farm ( source & CBT
files ) is currently a function of the scripts. This has also been
> - The Turnkey MVS home page www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/index.html is
> very useful, and I appreciate Volker's efforts. It would help if
> some of the pages had dates on them. I spent considerable time
> looking at the fixes page, for example, before realizing all those
> fixes are already in the version 3 CD.
Don't know that anyone other than Volker has access to modify those
pages. Don't know if Volker has date/time stamps on them offline or not.
Phil - keep the suggestions coming - we do listen to them