Re: Re: Failing during setup of turnkey system
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:29:33 -0000, "Peter J Farley III"
> --- In turnkey-mvs@..., psysltd <at> m... wrote:
> > But now (as before) I'm confused- do I have to do something
> > further? Was this the starter system, or is this the "final"
> > system. I saw some pages in the cookbook which talk about running
> > the starter setup first. I ran the ins0010.bat file but now I'm
> > thinking maybe it was for nothing since I had the starter system
> > running already?
> OK, if you ran ins0010.bat, you pretty well messed up the Turnkey
> system. It reinitializes and loads MVSRES (among other DASD
> volumes) to MVS STARTER SYTEM state, not TK3 final state.
That's what I was afraid of, but I'm still able to ipl 148 and bring up
the system, and sign on to TSO... The ins0010.bat did get moved to the
\done directory, so for sure it did its thing. I guess I'll leave
things alone unless something just doesn't work anymore.
> The TK3 setup script gives you a running system, ready to start
> mainframe work, with lots of goodies already added for you to play
I started out on MFT but I was punching cards on 029s and 129s back
then. (How can we ever go back to line-editor mode?!) When I typed
"ISPF" after the TSO logon and it said "command not found," I broke out
in a panic
Does anybody have a full-screen editor/browser running? How do you view
dumps? This is a wierd reverse learning curve! I can't remember how I
used to work on this stuff!
> The "insnnnn" scripts are for (re)creating a working TK3
> system starting from the bare MVS 3.8J "starter packs" and running a
> full SYSGEN process (a very long and involved process). Some folks
> like to begin at the beginning to see how it was done. Others just
> want to use the system to do other things. YMMV.
Thanks for the clarification. I was never a sysprog so I'll leave that
part to Volker and you other professional guys
> > 1) TSO userid HERC02 seems to want a password- I couldn't find
> > what it was.
> Once you have TK3 installed again and started up, you can use the
> cookbook instructions on adding/changing/listing users. IIRC, the
> LIST subcommand can tell you all about all of the useried's that are
> defined to the system, including passwords.
> Use HERC01 (no password) to do such things.
I was confused only because HERC01 didn't need a password, but HERC02
did. I didn't see any discussion about the passwords on the cookbook
pages. Howard sent me the details on finding the info.
> > 2) What is the break key from Vista? ATTN? SYSREQ? something
> > else? I got into a loop a couple of times in TSO with trying to
> > break out of a prompt and I couldn't do it.
> Umm-m-m, in the Vista documentation perhaps? I don't use that
> emulator so I haven't a clue where ATTN or SYSREQ are defined.
No, my question was on which control key MVS wants...based on what
Vista's terminology is.
I'm just getting "X SYSTEM" on TSO when I try ATTN, SYSREQ, etc.
> As for TSO (TK3 or otherwise), I *thought* that ATTN would get you
> out of pretty much any command that isn't coded to ignore it. If
> not, tell us what you can't get out of, there's always a possibility
> there is a bug somewhere... :)
If I can recreate the scenario, I'll let you know.
Thanks very much to you and all of the guys who have been helping me,
and to the guys who worked on all this stuff to make it available. It's
really a thrill to have a real operating system running on this bucket
of bolts for the first time!
Eat my dust, Bill Gates!
http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software
or over the web
------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: