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mailman | 1 Jun 2011 13:30

Guidelines for LINUX5250 mailing list

Monthly posting of the guidelines for participation in the LINUX5250
Mailing List.

Answers to common questions, including installation issues for FreeBSD,
Linux and Windows are included in the documentation in the README file
in the source tarball, the manual included with the Windows installer,
and the other documentation found on our web site at
http://tn5250.sourceforge.net

Answers to other questions which may have already been asked are available in
the linux5250 email list archive, which is available at
http://archive.midrange.com/linux5250/

Keep to the subject.  The topic of the list is the Linux Tn5250
Emulation project.   (Though, the name "Linux" is a misnomer, since
the software will work in Microsoft Windows and any modern Unix or
Unix-like operating system)

When quoting messages, do not quote the entire message.  Just quote the
parts that are needed to make the appropriate references.

Flames are absolutely prohibited.  If you disagree with someone, feel
free to argue the facts, but no personal attacks will be tolerated.

The official language of the LINUX5250 Mailing List is English.

Do not post personal messages.  Please use direct E-Mail.  This list is
international in scope and personal messages just end up costing money.

Please do not use HTML to format messages ... not everyone has a HTML
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John Aldrich | 10 Jun 2011 18:01

Problem with TN5250

Trying to use TN5250 here on a Debian box. It works fine until we get an
error message and then it locks up the whole session and we have to close
the window and restart it. Unfortunately that is a non-starter. 

This is not a "critical" error... just a warning, in this case, it's telling
us that we haven't entered any roll numbers for the carpet and we should
enter some roll numbers... but we can't get that far because it's blocking
us. On the official Windows 5250 client, we just hit "ctl" and it goes away
and we can proceed. However, that doesn't work for us with TN5250.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Roberto Del Mugnaio | 10 Jun 2011 18:05
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Roberto Del Mugnaio/ICT/Gruppo Bipielle è assente dall'ufficio.


Sarò assente dall'ufficio a partire dal  10/06/2011 e non tornerò fino al 13/06/2011.

Risponderò al messaggio al mio ritorno.
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Scott Klement | 10 Jun 2011 19:00
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Re: Problem with TN5250

Which front-end to TN5250 are you using?  Curses? Slang? xt5250? x5250? 
gtk-5250?

This "error" is obviously an issue that you don't know where the "error 
reset" key is on your keyboard, but I can't assist unless I understand 
your environment.

On 6/10/2011 11:01 AM, John Aldrich wrote:
> Trying to use TN5250 here on a Debian box. It works fine until we get an
> error message and then it locks up the whole session and we have to close
> the window and restart it. Unfortunately that is a non-starter.
>
> This is not a "critical" error... just a warning, in this case, it's telling
> us that we haven't entered any roll numbers for the carpet and we should
> enter some roll numbers... but we can't get that far because it's blocking
> us. On the official Windows 5250 client, we just hit "ctl" and it goes away
> and we can proceed. However, that doesn't work for us with TN5250.

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John Aldrich | 10 Jun 2011 19:28

Re: Problem with TN5250

Using straight TN5250 in a terminal window. Xt5250 can be used, but I need
to tweak it as the default font settings are incredibly small!

As I said in my original email the "error reset" key is normally "control"
but it's not working on this basic tn5250 session.

-----Original Message-----
From: linux5250-bounces@... [mailto:linux5250-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Scott Klement
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 1:00 PM
To: Linux 5250 Development Project
Subject: Re: [LINUX5250] Problem with TN5250

Which front-end to TN5250 are you using?  Curses? Slang? xt5250? x5250? 
gtk-5250?

This "error" is obviously an issue that you don't know where the "error 
reset" key is on your keyboard, but I can't assist unless I understand 
your environment.

On 6/10/2011 11:01 AM, John Aldrich wrote:
> Trying to use TN5250 here on a Debian box. It works fine until we get an
> error message and then it locks up the whole session and we have to close
> the window and restart it. Unfortunately that is a non-starter.
>
> This is not a "critical" error... just a warning, in this case, it's
telling
> us that we haven't entered any roll numbers for the carpet and we should
> enter some roll numbers... but we can't get that far because it's blocking
> us. On the official Windows 5250 client, we just hit "ctl" and it goes
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Martin Rowe | 10 Jun 2011 19:40
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Re: Problem with TN5250

On 10 June 2011 18:28, John Aldrich <jaldrich@...> wrote:
> Using straight TN5250 in a terminal window. Xt5250 can be used, but I need
> to tweak it as the default font settings are incredibly small!
>
> As I said in my original email the "error reset" key is normally "control"
> but it's not working on this basic tn5250 session.

John

The default key combination for Reset is Ctrl+R. The man page for
tn5250 lists all the keys/key combinations.  You might also find some
useful info on tailoring the keys used in the HOWTO
http://www.chowhouse.com/~james/tn5250-HOWTO.pdf

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John Aldrich | 10 Jun 2011 20:25

Re: Problem with TN5250

Thanks... I think CTL+R should work. Just not what we're used to. :D

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On Behalf Of Martin Rowe
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 1:41 PM
To: Linux 5250 Development Project
Subject: Re: [LINUX5250] Problem with TN5250

On 10 June 2011 18:28, John Aldrich <jaldrich@...> wrote:
> Using straight TN5250 in a terminal window. Xt5250 can be used, but I need
> to tweak it as the default font settings are incredibly small!
>
> As I said in my original email the "error reset" key is normally "control"
> but it's not working on this basic tn5250 session.

John

The default key combination for Reset is Ctrl+R. The man page for
tn5250 lists all the keys/key combinations.  You might also find some
useful info on tailoring the keys used in the HOWTO
http://www.chowhouse.com/~james/tn5250-HOWTO.pdf

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Scott Klement | 10 Jun 2011 20:40
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Re: Problem with TN5250

hi John,

Sounds like you're probably using the curses front-end, then.

Remember, the Unix environment (that Linux is designed to work like) is 
intended to work with a network of terminals that all connect to a 
central CPU.  I realize that you probably don't use it that way, but 
it's the way the environment was designed, and it still works that way.

So within your Linux PC, there's a program pretending to be a Unix tty 
(terminal) that's interfacing with your screen and keyboard.  And 
another that's pretending to be a 'getty' process (terminal server) that 
receives the terminal signals and sends them on to programs.

The problem is... when you hit the control key, the terminal doesn't 
send anything to the server.  That's the way Unix ttys have historically 
worked, and the way the program on your linux box still works today.  So 
there's nothing for tn5250 to interpret as error-reset.

You can solve this problem by using x5250, since x5250 works in the X 
environment, it can read your keyboard scan codes directly. (It's a 
different architecture.) therefore it's possible to map the control key 
to error reset.

Or, you can try to configure the linux terminal program (via loadkeys) 
to send a different character sequence when the control key is sent. 
That'll only work if you're using a console (not X) display.

Otherwise, you'll have to hit Ctrl-R.  (See the man page for details of 
the key combinations.)
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John Aldrich | 10 Jun 2011 20:53

Re: Problem with TN5250

CTL+R should work well enough... just have to make sure the end user knows.
:D

BTW, I tried to make up a .tn5250rc file but it doesn't appear to be
accepting it. Am I missing some magical incantation? Do I need to chmod it
or something? If so, what settings do I need for the .tn5250rc???

-----Original Message-----
From: linux5250-bounces@... [mailto:linux5250-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Scott Klement
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:41 PM
To: Linux 5250 Development Project
Subject: Re: [LINUX5250] Problem with TN5250

hi John,

Sounds like you're probably using the curses front-end, then.

Remember, the Unix environment (that Linux is designed to work like) is 
intended to work with a network of terminals that all connect to a 
central CPU.  I realize that you probably don't use it that way, but 
it's the way the environment was designed, and it still works that way.

So within your Linux PC, there's a program pretending to be a Unix tty 
(terminal) that's interfacing with your screen and keyboard.  And 
another that's pretending to be a 'getty' process (terminal server) that 
receives the terminal signals and sends them on to programs.

The problem is... when you hit the control key, the terminal doesn't 
send anything to the server.  That's the way Unix ttys have historically
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Scott Klement | 10 Jun 2011 21:05
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Re: Problem with TN5250

tn5250 doesn't care what the permissions on the file are -- as long as 
the file exists in the user's home directory, and the user has read 
permission to the .tn5250rc file, it'll try to use it.

If you're trying to set a system-wide configuration, you need to omit 
the dot... so it'd be /etc/tn5250rc (or /usr/local/etc/tn5250rc) with no 
dot in the filename.

On 6/10/2011 1:53 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
> CTL+R should work well enough... just have to make sure the end user knows.
> :D
>
> BTW, I tried to make up a .tn5250rc file but it doesn't appear to be
> accepting it. Am I missing some magical incantation? Do I need to chmod it
> or something? If so, what settings do I need for the .tn5250rc???
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux5250-bounces@... [mailto:linux5250-bounces@...]
> On Behalf Of Scott Klement
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:41 PM
> To: Linux 5250 Development Project
> Subject: Re: [LINUX5250] Problem with TN5250
>
> hi John,
>
> Sounds like you're probably using the curses front-end, then.
>
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