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> I would like to know about Hercules more detail could someone help me?
> Thanks.
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what about starting from the hercules homepage
http://www.hercules-390.org/

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Hello Enrico!
Thank you for your reply and the URL.

Have you ever set up Hercules?
And if so, the system is working on site(I mean in service)?

Thank you for your time.

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> --- In hercules-390-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org, "sachiko_tomigahara" <sachiko_tomigahara <at> > wrote:
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> > I would like to know about Hercules more detail could someone help me?
> > Thanks.
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> what about starting from the hercules homepage
> http://www.hercules-390.org/
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> His tool stinks in my opinion.

No, nothing wrong with this tool. Just repack the whole repository with "git repack -a -d -F --window=250" and you will get nice 11 MB repo.

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Hercules is an IBM S/370 S/390 z/Series Hardware emulator.
What operating system are you looking to install on it?

If MVS, http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/ is a very quick way to get it
up and running.

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> Hello Enrico!
> Thank you for your reply and the URL.
>
> Have you ever set up Hercules?
> And if so, the system is working on site(I mean in service)?
>
> Thank you for your time.
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> vshkamerda wrote:

> > halfmeg wrote:

> > His tool stinks in my opinion.

My opinion stands if you are given back something almost 25 times larger than it should be.

> No, nothing wrong with this tool. Just repack the whole repository
> with "git repack -a -d -F --window=250" and you will get nice 11 MB
> repo.

Finally, perhaps someone who knows something about what options to use to reduce the size of the behemoth. A quick google provided some proof the "git fast-import creates really bad packs" from:

http://vcscompare.blogspot.com/2008/06/git-repack-parameters.html

When I have more time I'll try the above and also the suggestion in the comments on the web page above "'git gc --aggressive --prune' performs much faster than repack with window=250".

It doesn't really matter to me what repository finally gets utilized as long as the SVN versioning numbers are 'checkoutable' and the thing is a decent size.

The other issue wasn't addressed and perhaps hasn't been thought about too much. What 'snapshot' number will an end user utilize when having to do a binary-search through 100+ commits when there is nothing other than a wildly varying commit number ?

Perhaps a daily daemon to produce a tag which increments or uses the date for a 1 per day 'snapshot' ?

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> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:43 AM,
>sachiko_tomigahara <sachiko_tomigahara <at> ...> wrote:
>> Hello Enrico!
>> Thank you for your reply and the URL.
>> Have you ever set up Hercules?
>> And if so, the system is working on site(I mean in service)?
>> Thank you for your time.
> --
> Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA
> Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?
> Hercules is an IBM S/370 S/390 z/Series Hardware emulator.
>What operating system are you looking to install on it?
> If MVS, http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/ is a very quick
>way to get it up and running.

Ten years ago, TK3 was a current way to run MVS 3.8j.
It included an old version of Hercules, required CygWin if
the old version of Hercules was used, used C3270 instead
of wc3270, had an old RPF, old IND$FILE, and many other
pieces of software without many now available updates,
had several bad VTOCs, and had many other issues.

If MVS 3.8j is wanted quickly and with many fixes not
on the original MVS Tur(n)key 3 ( TK3 ) CD image, I would
suggest:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/\
H390-MVS/files/TK3UPD.needed.extras/

TK3 update ( TK3UPD ) is not perfect but much easier to
get running and new users will not need as much help trying
to operate.

If practice is wanted trying to resolve years worth of
issues that have already been resolved, then the old TK3
would make sense.

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Is there a utility that can be executed from the host to mount a file on a Hercules defined tape drive? DOS or VSE

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