Iain Brown Douglas | 16 Apr 19:25 2014

Re: [Sugar-devel] Recommendations for running Sugar on standard hardware (non-XOs)?


On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 18:53 +0700, Sam Parkinson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Cool tutorial! Sorry about the crashes, I think I have found some of
> the issues but will have to look further. (I committed some fixes to
> the git though). Also now I see which bits of the ui are confusing so
> I will fix that.

I see that I need to use max 800x600 images.

If I wanted to remove all the <h1></h1> from every slide I should do it
more carefully. I did wonder if <h1></h1> is *required*, but I think
not. I should get all the words saved, before adding images. The
opposite of what I tried!

I am guessing that the "Style" must be decided and set, before starting
work.

I am not sure how to optimise the location of the images before starting
work.

When you brought up the subject, I had been playing with Sugarizing
http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy2/Overview.html#%281%29 - it would
probably be a long time before *I* had it ready to share though!
> 
> [Now on topic]
> I was just wondering, can that command you used be used to move it to
> the hdd? I think the installing to the hdd is what we need. Anyway I
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Christoph Derndorfer | 11 Apr 17:00 2014
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Running Fedora 20 with Sugar on a Chromebook?

Hi all,

because the question came up over drinks last night and now again at lunch here in Paris I was wondering whether anyone here has tried installing Fedora 20 with Sugar on a Chromebook?

I've done some research and you can find some good information about installing Arch Linux on a Chromebook as well as some partial information plus scripts for getting Fedora to run on an Acer's Intel-based D720 (http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=295596). Apparently the results are quite good.

Anyway, curious to see whether anyone has any experiences beyond what's currently documented on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#Chromebook?

Cheers,
Christoph

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Christoph Derndorfer | 7 Apr 20:36 2014
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Recommendations for running Sugar on standard hardware (non-XOs)?

Hey everyone,

a guy I know wants to set up a couple of older laptops with Sugar in a sort of "learning lab" in Germany and asked me what the best route for doing that was. Since I haven't dabbled in that area in quite a while I'm not sure what the best recommendations are these days:

* using the SoaS version from late December?
* installing Fedora 20 and running Sugar on top of that?
* something entirely different?

Any comments, suggestions, links, etc. would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Christoph

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Walter Bender | 3 Apr 21:27 2014
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Fwd: [Localization] i need help to install Sugar...

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Date: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM
Subject: [Localization] i need help to install Sugar...
To: localization list olpc <localization@...>

i just downloaded sugar 32bit, burned it into a USB, now when i boot i
don't know how to open the installation manager so i can install it in
the Hard rather than keep opening in the live mode?

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Sean DALY | 22 Jan 17:34 2014
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SoaS review article

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Daniel Narvaez | 17 Dec 21:47 2013
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Write failure to save (Re: SoaS v10 Test Compose 3)

On 27 November 2013 11:48, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Fedora is now in Freeze locking down for release so we're into bugfix
only mode but if we could get a fix soon for things like the Write
save to journal bug we should be able to land it in time.

This is at least part of the problem

I have not tried the patch on Write but if I remove from Write the code which calls that method, saving works most of the time... When it fails, it fails silently, so more debugging will be necessary to figure out what is going on in those cases.
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Peter Robinson | 27 Nov 11:48 2013
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SoaS v10 Test Compose 3

Hi All,

For those that are following along and testing the new SoaS release
there's a new test compose out. It has a number of fixes in and Write
should be back in the build by default.

Fedora is now in Freeze locking down for release so we're into bugfix
only mode but if we could get a fix soon for things like the Write
save to journal bug we should be able to land it in time.

Both ARM and x86 images can be grabbed here:
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC3/Images/armhfp/
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC3/Live/

Peter
Jean THIERY | 21 Nov 23:40 2013

SoaS v10 testing with activities not included in the standard distribution

Dear colleagues,

Below, yo will find different tests of SoaS v10
with activities not included in the standard distribution.

7 activities cannot be installed.
The error message makes reference to
[sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalFormedBundleException]

Many activities cannot start.
Some start then stop.

[ok] corresponds only to simple tests.
Systematic tests were not performed.

I may try to send log messages as soon as possible.

Soon on Internet,

Jean [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/]

================================================================
List of Activities used by OLPC-France projects
================================================================

This list presents activities
- used by OLPC-France
   http://olpc-france.org/blog/category/nosy-komba/
- and not included in SoaS-10.

These activities are sorted in different categories.

*Gcompris* (not in SoaS 10)

gcompris-17.xo [ok except for 2 missing images]
gcompris-18.xo [does not start]

*Essential activities* (not in SoaS 10)

jukebox-26.xo [ok]
jukebox-32.xo [does not start]

read_92.xo  [does not start]
read_111.xo [reads texts but displays errors]

read_etexts-24.xo [to be checked]
read_etexts-26.xo [to be checked]

write_79 [does not start]
write_94 [does not start]

*Child activities* (not in SoaS 10)

aide-5.xo [cannot be installed]
[sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalFormedBundleException]

appel_haken-24.xo [ok]

arithmetic-2.xo [cannot be installed]
[sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalFormedBundleException]

colors-15.xo [cannot be installed]
[sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalFormedBundleException]

falabracman-1.xo [cannot be installed]
[sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalFormedBundleException]

fractionbounce-14.xo [ok]
fractionbounce-21.xo [ok]

geoquiz-5.xo [loads then stops]

implode-12.xo [loads then stops]

madagascar-2.xo [cannot be installed]
[sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalFormedBundleException]

ooo4kidsfr-3.xo [does not start]

reflection-8.xo [ok]
reflection-13.xo [ok]

ruler-24.xo [ok]
ruler-31.xo [ok]

tuxmath-2.xo [cannot be installed]
[sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalFormedBundleException]

words-17.xo [ok]

*Specialized activities* (not in SoaS 10)

distance-32.xo [ok]

drgeo-1204.xo [ok]

geogebra_6 [ok]

helloworld-3 [ok]
helloworld-6 [ok]

measure-49.xo [ok]

scratch-23.xo [does not start]

soma-25 [ok]

sugar-commander-8.xo [cannot be installed]
[sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalFormedBundleException]

tamtamedit-67.xo [does not start]

tamtamjam-67.xo [does not start]

tamtammini-67.xo [does not start]

tamtamsynthlab-67.xo [does not start]

*HTML5 Activities* (developed by Lionel Laské)

abecedarium-4.xo [ok]

foodchain-3.xo [does not start]

grid_paint-1.xo [ok]

last_one_loses_activity-1.xo [starts but stops]

markdown-3.xo [ok]

*Encyclopedic activities* (not in SoaS 10

simple_english_wikipedia-37.1.xo [ok]

wikipediafr-36.xo [ok]

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Jerry Vonau | 21 Nov 14:26 2013
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[Patch] Missing dependencies - sugar

Hi All:

On SoaS ever wonder why you can't view other SoaSs or XOs on your local
lan once you delete "My Setting" -> "Network" -> "Server:" <value>? Well
for that to work sugar needs to have avahi-tools installed. This really
is a requirement of sugar and should not rely on the build-system to
provide that dependency. Patch to sugar.spec attached.

Jerry
Attachment (avahi.diff): text/x-patch, 267 bytes
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Frederick Grose | 19 Nov 19:07 2013
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Etoys in Sugar was: SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo <at> laptop.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > - The "eToys" activity (version 116) does not start properly
>> >   then displays
>> >   « cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'inisqueak-m' ? »

 
>>
>> The eToys developers are basically unresponsive, I'm in two minds
>> whether we even bother to ship it because they can't be bothered doing
>> things like updating to the latest sugar by migrating away from
>> sugar-presence-service/ which was deprecated a long time ago.
>>
>
>
> But this looks like a different problem, right?

TBH I have no idea, I've not had the time to look closely at eToys
because a lack of response from the maintainer or anyone bothering to
test or improve it makes me prioritise things that are easy for me to
fix where I actually get responses. Last release I removed it from the
main wheel because it wasn't a decent experience.

Peter
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Peter Robinson | 19 Nov 18:15 2013
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Re: [SoaS] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

Hi,

>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I would like to test SoaS v10 beta directly on a USB key.
>>>
>>> I have a G1G1 XO-1 computer but XO computers are not easily
>>> available for the public at large. So during my demonstrations
>>> I prefer to present Sugar on a Stick in parallel with the XO :
>>> http://ModLibre.info/en/modlibre/info/demo.html
>>>
>>> Is is possible to get an iso image
>>> which could be installed and tested on a usb key ?
>>>
>>> Or when will it be possible ?
>>
>>
>> It's possible now, there's details of where you can get
>> the images from in my original email
>>
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-November/003184.html
>
>
> Thank you for this information.
>
> I downloaded « *Fedora-Live-Soas-i686-20-Beta-5.iso* »
> from  http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease#desktops
>
> I used a previous procedure with « tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh »
> to prepare a booting 4G USB key.
>
> All activities were analyzed with rapid tests.
>
> Nearly everything is OK except for the following points :
>
> - In "My parameters" there is no icon for "keyboard choice".
>   So, it is not possible to get a localized keyboard.
>
> - The "eToys" activity (version 116) does not start properly
>   then displays
>   « cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'inisqueak-m' ? »

The eToys developers are basically unresponsive, I'm in two minds
whether we even bother to ship it because they can't be bothered doing
things like updating to the latest sugar by migrating away from
sugar-presence-service/ which was deprecated a long time ago.

> - The "Physics" activity (version 11) works well
>   BUT stops when we try to displace an object with the little "hand".

Can you take the log file and send to sugar-devel list.

> - The previous "Jukebox", "Read", "Rule" and "Write" activities
>   do not appear : is it normal ?

I'm not sure what you mean by "previous" and "do not appear"

> - NB: "Jukebox.activity" and "Read.activity" are present
>   in « /usr/share/sugar/activities

Are they in the Activities list? (the icon with lines in the top right
of the home screen)

> Is there a public list where I can send similar diagnostic files ?

Either the SoaS list or sugar-devel should be fine, both were on the
original message.

Peter

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