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Kimberley Quirk | 1 Aug 2008 05:20
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[sugar] patch for a first boot launch of a Help activity

I don't think we want it to auto launch, but perhaps it should be the  
first icon on the left.

Thoughts on that?

Kim

On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Eben Eliason wrote:

> My personal opinion on the matter is that we shouldn't be doing the  
> launch automatically, but others are welcome to disagree. =)  I  
> think the presence of a nice, clean, question mark icon on the Home  
> screen after boot will be plenty for those that want to jump into  
> help right away, and instilling the Home zoom level as just what it  
> is -- Home -- is equally important.  Particularly because of the  
> fullscreen nature of the activities (and the new launcher itself), I  
> actually think it would be more disorienting to be driven directly  
> into the help activity.
>
> I'm not sure the decision was finalized, as the ticket you worked  
> from didn't make it clear one way or the other.  Thanks for your  
> hard work, either way!
>
> -  Eben
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bobby Powers  
> <bobbypowers at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <mpgritti at gmail.com> wrote:
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Mikus Grinbergs | 1 Aug 2008 04:26
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[sugar] Your journal is empty

Recently, I have on two occasions with Joyride (2229+, 2232) pressed 
ctl-alt-erase in order to "restart" Sugar.  Both times. when Sugar 
came up, the Journal screen told me 'Your journal is empty'.

If "unwanted emptying of the Journal" were to be experienced by 
others (in addition to me), then I think this problem should be a 
SERIOUS blocker to 8.2.

mikus  (G1G1)
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FFM | 1 Aug 2008 05:29
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[sugar] patch for a first boot launch of a Help activity

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:20:44PM -0400, Kimberley Quirk wrote:
> I don't think we want it to auto launch, but perhaps it should be the first
> icon on the left.
>
> Thoughts on that?

I havn't used joyride in a while, but IIRC (around build 2100) they scrapped
the "bar" of activities in favour of a more "scattered on home" approach.

I'm not sure what the best placement would be in this case.

Maybe somewhere in the frame (forever, thus able to provide contextual
assistance in the future), or as a throbbing icon on the home view (just for
the first launch)?

-FFM
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Christoph Derndorfer | 1 Aug 2008 06:25
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[sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Michael Stone <michael at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 03:05:18PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
>>
>>> a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows
>>> whatever the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode,
>>> switch to different tabs, etc. However once I press the
>>> "capture"-button the whole thing basically freezes, sometimes I was
>>> still able to move the mouse but clicking wouldn't have any impact, at
>>> other times Sugar completely froze and I had to do a hard reset of the
>>> XO.
>>>
>>
>> Your save-nand image loaded onto my XO just fine, but Record worked
>> fine. Must be something hardware related. very odd.
>>
>
> It could also be hardware independent but non-deterministic. Or
> deterministic but triggered under input that you didn't give.
>
> Michael
>

Hey guys,

thanks a lot for all the feedback.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to submit any tickets about the issues I
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Martin Langhoff | 1 Aug 2008 06:27
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[sugar] Your journal is empty

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at bga.com> wrote:
> Recently, I have on two occasions with Joyride (2229+, 2232) pressed
> ctl-alt-erase in order to "restart" Sugar.  Both times. when Sugar
> came up, the Journal screen told me 'Your journal is empty'.
>
> If "unwanted emptying of the Journal" were to be experienced by
> others (in addition to me), then I think this problem should be a
> SERIOUS blocker to 8.2.

You might know this - but just in case and for others reading: if the
datastore fails to come up for any reason, the datastore storage dir
(~/.sugar/default/datastore) gets moved aside and a new one is
created. If you "lost" your journal this way, the files are in
~/.sugar/default/datastore.XXX .

It will be interesting to know why ds failed to come up and file it as
a bug if relevant. Do the logs in .sugar/default/logs say anything
interesting?

cheers,

m
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Eben Eliason | 1 Aug 2008 07:23
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[sugar] patch for a first boot launch of a Help activity

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:29 PM, FFM <ffm at laptop.org> wrote:

> Maybe somewhere in the frame (forever, thus able to provide contextual
> assistance in the future), or as a throbbing icon on the home view (just
> for
> the first launch)?
>

All of our initial discussions on help focused around a contextual help
system, and I still hope that this is where we'll be taking this in the
future.  By embedding (?) icons within the secondary palette menus for
various devices, objects, activities, and even individual buttons and
controls, we can provide a way to launch into the help activity and dive
directly to the relevant info for the activity, control, etc. selected.  In
addition, I'd like to support a community driven help system by which, in
addition to the activity/olpc provided help, it's possible for kids to add
tips, tricks, images, tutorials, and other info to these sections for later
consumption by peers.

This is a noble, but ambitious goal, which is why a simple and static help
activity is the present solution, and why it's only integrated into the
system at a single point - the activity itself.

- Eben
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Simon Schampijer | 1 Aug 2008 09:15
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[sugar] [RELEASE] Write 56

sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/write-activity/Write-56.tar.bz2
bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.81.6/Write-56.xo

- Translation update

Best,
    Simon
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Simon Schampijer | 1 Aug 2008 10:12
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[sugar] [RELEASE] Log 11

sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/log-activity/Log-11.tar.bz2
bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.81.6/Log-11.xo

* Translations update

Best,
    Simon
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Tomeu Vizoso | 1 Aug 2008 12:55
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[sugar] Your journal is empty

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at bga.com> wrote:
> Recently, I have on two occasions with Joyride (2229+, 2232) pressed
> ctl-alt-erase in order to "restart" Sugar.  Both times. when Sugar
> came up, the Journal screen told me 'Your journal is empty'.
>
> If "unwanted emptying of the Journal" were to be experienced by
> others (in addition to me), then I think this problem should be a
> SERIOUS blocker to 8.2.

Yes, that's pretty worrying. Can you more or less reliably reproduce it?

Thanks,

Tomeu
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Simon Schampijer | 1 Aug 2008 13:01
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[sugar] Sucrose 0.81.6 Development Release

The new Sucrose 0.81.6 Development Release is out!

This is Release Candidate 2 [1]. This cycle was again about stabilizing the 
release. Thanks to all the translators we were able to get many new translations 
in. All the Fructose modules have been released containing the new strings.

Thanks for all your efforts!

Checkout the detailed release notes:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Releases/Sucrose/0.81.6

In behalf of the Sugar community,
Your release team

[1] Sucrose schedule: http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap

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== Glucose news ==

=== sugar-toolkit ===
* #7566 sugar-shell enters in infinite loop after a failed shutdown
* #7534 Safer to always install, rather than comparing versions
* #7494 Updates to Browse-92 fail.

=== sugar ===
* #7248 Speaker device has inconsistent behavior
* #7625 alt+tab switching is slow because activities are notified unneccessary
* #7560 cp: Inconsistent behavior after changing the xo color
* #7641 Control panel sugar theme infelicities.
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