Michael Meeks | 1 Sep 2011 10:58
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Re: next call and Hackfest


On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 13:46 +0000, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> I won't be in Munich but I think the only ongoing work, aside the
> release process is the conference

	Umm ;-) and the creating of the German Stiftung ... there is some value
in holding feet to the fire each week on that topic ;-) that doesn't
need to happen on the phone of course - it could be done in a simple
E-mail (like this) ;->

	ATB,

		Michael.

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Florian Effenberger | 1 Sep 2011 10:59
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Re: next call and Hackfest

Hi,

Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-09-01 10:58:
> 	Umm;-)  and the creating of the German Stiftung ... there is some value
> in holding feet to the fire each week on that topic;-)  that doesn't
> need to happen on the phone of course - it could be done in a simple
> E-mail (like this) ;->

will publish a blog post on this topic soon. Status quo is that the 
lawyer has been contracted, the documents are ready and he is working on 
approaching the states of Berlin, Hessen and Bavaria, so everything is 
on its way. :)

Florian

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Florian Effenberger | 2 Sep 2011 08:36
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skipping Saturday's call

Hello,

since nobody objected, I propose we skip Saturday's SC call, because 
many SC members are at the Hackfest in Munich.

The next call then would be

	Wednesday, September 7th, at 1600 UTC

Looking forward to hearing you then, and have a nice weekend!

Florian

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Florian Effenberger | 3 Sep 2011 13:30
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Re: Re: trademark use request

Hi,

Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-08-24 11:57:
> If I hear no objections, I will modify the site footers accordingly in
> the next days.

modifications are done now. :) Thanks everyone for your feedback!

Florian

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Ian Lynch | 4 Sep 2011 11:40
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Certification of end-user skills

Background

As many will know we have been working on FOSS friendly qualifications for
end-users for several years now through the INGOT project. The
qualifications and associated certificates are differentiated across 6
levels covering all software applications from complete beginner to
university entrance level. The assessment criteria are generic and based on
the UK National Standards referenced to the European Qualifications
Framework. Further, the assessment is backed by a comprehensive (Drupal +
LAMP) on-line system for managing submission of evidence, moderation,
progress tracking, reporting and authentication of certificates.

We have been invited by the OpenOffice.org certification project to work in
partnership with them to support a large corporate training company in
providing certification of user skills in OpenOffice.org. This is simply a
matter of contextualising the assessments with evidence drawn from OOo or
products derived from that code base. The assessment criteria are no
different from those used for any office products but the evidence has to be
provided using OOo, LibO or other OOo based applications. In this sense
changes to OOo or LibO are unlikely to have a material effect on the
certification and that is a deliberate design strategy in the UK national
frameworks. You don't want to have to potentially change things on every new
release.

The specific proposal is to use the LibO logo on end user certificates and
the LibreOffice name and logo on the handbook with full acknowledgement of
trade marks etc. There will be a payment back to the community for each
certificate issued carrying a LibO logo - I can't be precise at the moment
as we are still working out costs but it is likely to be around 50 cents to
a dollar per certificate. We are trying to keep costs down to get maximum
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Paulo de Souza Lima | 4 Sep 2011 16:02
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Re: Certification of end-user skills

Hello.

I make mine your issues. We have the same felling in Brazil. Can you provide
a copy of your handbook in order the Brazilian Doc Team to translate it to
Portuguese? Obviously, any issue concerning to certification should wait
until the BoD be elected and begin to deliberate on that. But I really wish
to know the contents of this handbook earlier and discuss them with the
Brazilian community.

Best Regards.

2011/9/4 Ian Lynch <ianrlynch <at> gmail.com>

> Background
>
> As many will know we have been working on FOSS friendly qualifications for
> end-users for several years now through the INGOT project. The
> qualifications and associated certificates are differentiated across 6
> levels covering all software applications from complete beginner to
> university entrance level. The assessment criteria are generic and based on
> the UK National Standards referenced to the European Qualifications
> Framework. Further, the assessment is backed by a comprehensive (Drupal +
> LAMP) on-line system for managing submission of evidence, moderation,
> progress tracking, reporting and authentication of certificates.
>
> We have been invited by the OpenOffice.org certification project to work in
> partnership with them to support a large corporate training company in
> providing certification of user skills in OpenOffice.org. This is simply a
> matter of contextualising the assessments with evidence drawn from OOo or
> products derived from that code base. The assessment criteria are no
(Continue reading)

Clovis Tristão | 4 Sep 2011 17:03
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Re: Certification of end-user skills

Hi,
I agree with all the views of colleagues, but I think it's past time to have
a center of excellence in Training LibreOffice in Brazil, which provides
certifications and material to users.The same center could sell propagating
material and product marketing.

Clóvis

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Paulo de Souza Lima <
paulo.s.lima <at> varekai.org> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I make mine your issues. We have the same felling in Brazil. Can you
> provide
> a copy of your handbook in order the Brazilian Doc Team to translate it to
> Portuguese? Obviously, any issue concerning to certification should wait
> until the BoD be elected and begin to deliberate on that. But I really wish
> to know the contents of this handbook earlier and discuss them with the
> Brazilian community.
>
> Best Regards.
>
> 2011/9/4 Ian Lynch <ianrlynch <at> gmail.com>
>
> > Background
> >
> > As many will know we have been working on FOSS friendly qualifications
> for
> > end-users for several years now through the INGOT project. The
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Charles-H. Schulz | 4 Sep 2011 17:35
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Re: Certification of end-user skills

Hello Ian,

While I do not know how well TDF certification fits with respect to your
project (I suspect there's some overlap but there are also lots of
differences in terms of audience and purpose) I think it would be a good
idea for you to use the LibreOffice logo , as it can only benefit TDF,
LibreOffice and your company. My only conditions would of course be no
exclusivity (i.e the respective parties are not tied in any sort of
exclusive agreement) and that it does not preclude any future
certification of our own.

Best,
Charles.

Le 04/09/2011 11:40, Ian Lynch a écrit :
> Background
> 
> As many will know we have been working on FOSS friendly qualifications for
> end-users for several years now through the INGOT project. The
> qualifications and associated certificates are differentiated across 6
> levels covering all software applications from complete beginner to
> university entrance level. The assessment criteria are generic and based on
> the UK National Standards referenced to the European Qualifications
> Framework. Further, the assessment is backed by a comprehensive (Drupal +
> LAMP) on-line system for managing submission of evidence, moderation,
> progress tracking, reporting and authentication of certificates.
> 
> We have been invited by the OpenOffice.org certification project to work in
> partnership with them to support a large corporate training company in
> providing certification of user skills in OpenOffice.org. This is simply a
(Continue reading)

Jomar Silva | 4 Sep 2011 18:29
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Res: Certification of end-user skills

Hi Ian,

Are you planning to use both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice logos on your material ?

Best,

Jomar
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Lynch <ianrlynch <at> gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:40:51 
To: <steering-discuss <at> documentfoundation.org>
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Subject: [steering-discuss] Certification of end-user skills

Background

As many will know we have been working on FOSS friendly qualifications for
end-users for several years now through the INGOT project. The
qualifications and associated certificates are differentiated across 6
levels covering all software applications from complete beginner to
university entrance level. The assessment criteria are generic and based on
the UK National Standards referenced to the European Qualifications
Framework. Further, the assessment is backed by a comprehensive (Drupal +
LAMP) on-line system for managing submission of evidence, moderation,
progress tracking, reporting and authentication of certificates.

We have been invited by the OpenOffice.org certification project to work in
partnership with them to support a large corporate training company in
providing certification of user skills in OpenOffice.org. This is simply a
matter of contextualising the assessments with evidence drawn from OOo or
(Continue reading)

Charles-H. Schulz | 4 Sep 2011 18:58
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Re: Res: Certification of end-user skills

That's what I understood, but I may be wrong. Ian?

Best,
Charles.

Le 04/09/2011 18:29, Jomar Silva a écrit :
> Hi Ian,
> 
> Are you planning to use both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice logos on your material ?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jomar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Lynch <ianrlynch <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:40:51 
> To: <steering-discuss <at> documentfoundation.org>
> Reply-To: steering-discuss <at> documentfoundation.org
> Subject: [steering-discuss] Certification of end-user skills
> 
> Background
> 
> As many will know we have been working on FOSS friendly qualifications for
> end-users for several years now through the INGOT project. The
> qualifications and associated certificates are differentiated across 6
> levels covering all software applications from complete beginner to
> university entrance level. The assessment criteria are generic and based on
> the UK National Standards referenced to the European Qualifications
> Framework. Further, the assessment is backed by a comprehensive (Drupal +
> LAMP) on-line system for managing submission of evidence, moderation,
(Continue reading)


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