john Culleton | 24 Apr 23:15 2014

Reproducing doc files.

In general I use anything in preference to KDE
Office apps, but a recent instruction received
from a publisher in doc format was read more
accurately in Calligra Word than in Libre Office
4.1.

Specifically italic type was reproduced in
oversized sans-serif bold face in Libre but was
reproduced in oversized slanted type in Calligra.
I misunderstood the publisher's desires until I
used Calligra. He wants italics which is what I
normally would have used in the particular
situation in an index.

Also in Libre certain bold face passages were
interpreted as larger sans-serif type
which caused some text to over print other text. 

Neither program scored 100% but Calligra came
closer. So I will give it a closer look. 

Doc format is not my favorite choice of course but
some customers insist on it.  

Copies of the original doc file are available on
request. 

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Tom Davies | 24 Apr 21:05 2014
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forums, The AOO one

Hi :)
Just popped into the Apache OpenOffice forum
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
and noticed their header claims "User community support forum for Apache
OpenOffice, LibreOffice and all the OpenOffice.org"

I think it's great! :)  There are quite a few places where people can get
help with LibreOffice now.  Oracle tried to kill that sort of co-operation
between OO and LO so it's good to see them seeing us as all part of a wider
community.

Of course there are a few things they might not be aware of over there that
might need to be sent here.  I suspect that many of them know more than
some of us anyway, well some of me at least.

I used to keep hearing that their Base forums were fantastic and so few
people were doing anything with Base it was painful that those few were
scattered and discouraged from communicating or from working together.
This helps deal with that sort of fragmentation without jeopardising the
independence of either project imo.

I don't think it helps to worry about them stealing people from our turf
because there are plenty of problems to go around and LibreOffice has
advantages that AOO doesn't.

Regards from
Tom :)

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Nino | 24 Apr 13:09 2014

Re: Fwd: Why new page style after manual page break changes all pages?

Brian Barker wrote
> Incidentally, it's possible that you are thinking of Microsoft Word's 
> "sections", which are rather different: those are unfortunately named 
> section *breaks* and more akin to LibreOffice's manual page breaks 
> with a change of page style.

You're right, MS sections and LibO sections belong to different concepts
despite their similar names, thanks for reminding that.

Nino

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Toki | 24 Apr 00:19 2014
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Re: Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

On 4/23/2014 6:36 AM, Brian Barker wrote:

 >  So whenever you purchased it, you would have expected expiration 
either now or much sooner.

That would be true if, and only if one of the following conditions is true:

* The vendor of the OP's system was one of the 6-nines that provides EOL 
dates for both the hardware and software that they sell;
* The OP's job entails providing 7/24 hour support for Windows;

The typical end-user does not know that both hardware and software comes 
with EOL dates, much less has any idea when those dates will occur.

jonathon

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Dale Erwin | 23 Apr 23:49 2014

Documentation

I was searching via google for LO documentation and I found 
"WG40-WriterGuideLO.pdf".  However, when I clicked on it, I received a 
document with 468 blank pages.

This was the URL: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/3/35/WG40-WriterGuideLO.pdf

Dale Erwin

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Virgil Arrington | 23 Apr 23:16 2014
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Fwd: RE: Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A 
MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]
Date: 	Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:10:24 -0400
From: 	Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls <at> hotmail.com>
To: 	James Knott <james.knott <at> rogers.com>

James Knott wrote,
 >
 > I run openSUSE Linux on my computers and have for several years. It's
 > generally possible to to an upgrade as new versions come out.

I'm thinking of installing Mint Debian to my (now defuct XP) desktop. I 
understand it's a rolling release, which should me continuous ongoing 
support. At least now I have an extra computer to experiment with and 
become even more familiar with that lovely little penguin.

Virgil

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Virgil Arrington | 23 Apr 23:16 2014
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Fwd: RE: Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]


Agreed, Jay.

I learned about the XP support expiration on the evening news a few 
months ago. Until then, it never occurred to me that M$ would stop 
supporting its OS. That thought wasn't on my radar screen, which 
probably (and fairly) says more about me and my (lack of) computer 
knowledge than it does M$.

But, I find it truly offensive when M$ ceases to support XP and then 
suggests that I buy a new computer so that I can have 8.1. I would buy a 
Mac before doing that.

Virgil

 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:09:34 -0400
 > From: jslozier <at> gmail.com
 > To: users <at> global.libreoffice.org
 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A 
MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]
 >
 >
 > On 04/23/2014 09:36 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
 > > At 07:57 23/04/2014 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote:
 > >> ... Ubuntu clearly states on its website when 12.04 support will
 > >> expire, so I know going in what I'm getting into. M$ gave me no such
 > >> warning when I purchased my XP machine years ago.
 > >
 > > That's odd. You may want to bookmark
 > > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle for future
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Virgil Arrington | 23 Apr 23:15 2014
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Fwd: RE: Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

Brian,

Thank you for the clarification. I do want to be fair, even in my anger. 
My apologies to M$ concerning notice of the expiration of XP.

That said, as a typical Windows user, it never occurred to me to go to a 
Microsoft website to determine the lifecycle for XP. When I bought my 
computer, it never occurred to me that Windows versions even had 
expiration dates and there was certainly nothing in the information 
provided me with the computer to indicate that. Again, not necessarily 
blaming M$ for the lack of information, just saying I never saw it when 
purchasing my computer.

By contrast, I obtained Ubuntu by downloading it. That process 
inherently took me to the 12.04LTS website where I could clearly and 
easily see Ubuntu's plans for 12.04. This doesn't make the Canonical 
folks more virtuous than M$, but for my experience, it made for clearer 
information up front.

Virgil

 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:36:03 +0100
 > To: users <at> global.libreoffice.org
 > From: b.m.barker <at> btinternet.com
 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A 
MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]
 >
 > At 07:57 23/04/2014 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote:
 > >... Ubuntu clearly states on its website when 12.04 support will
 > >expire, so I know going in what I'm getting into. M$ gave me no such
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anne-ology | 23 Apr 19:30 2014
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with all due thanks ...

       ... for your explanation.

       You're a true gentleman.

From: pete nikolic <pg.nikolic1 <at> gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE
USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE
To: anne-ology <laginnis <at> gmail.com>

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:53:41 -0500
anne-ology <laginnis <at> gmail.com> wrote:

>        I do NOT appreciate being mis-quoted;
>            I was responding to that Urmas who made the inane MSFT
comments.
>
>        If you were to read the whole  bit, ... ... ...
>            but I guess that goes against common sense  :-(
>
>        Out of the 2 sentences below, the first is part of my initial
> response to the initial questioner;
>             the second is part of the response by that Urmas.
>
>

Hi Anne-ology

Think what i sent may have gotten in the wrong place somehow it was aimed
at   URMAS
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TomD | 23 Apr 13:00 2014
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Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

Hi :)  
You can use Nabble to share the document.  Use any of the links in this
email but it's better practice to go to the official LIbreOffice website and
navigate through
"Get Help" - Nabble - Users - errr, and then find your thread, you might
need to register at the site
when you start to write a reply there are various buttons above the
"Message" box.  The last of these is "More" and that gives a small drop-down
menu.  Top item is "Upload a file" which works roughly the same way as
uploading an attachment to an email except that it puts a line of html code
into the message.  You can move the whole line of code around.  

Macros are a problem.  

To move these to LibreOffice you need someone to rewrite the code.  This
mailing list has been able to help a few people with this in the past but
it's not really what we are here for.  You might need to find someone who
has some coding skills elsewhere.  Luckily LibreOffice seems to be able to
handle macros written in a few different popular languages.  Also once the
code has been re-written to work in LibreOffice then it's unlikely to need
to be re-written after that.  

Moving to a new version of MS Office, such as the 2007 or 2010 would also
need the code to be re-written and it seems that each version of MS Office
makes changes so that re-write would probably need to be re-written again in
the future or for different versions of MS Office.  

One of the problems with the MS version of macros, is that macros have often
been used as an attack vector.  So much so that newer versions of MS Office
have a security pop-up alerting the user to possibly dangerous code being
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Jay Lozier | 23 Apr 16:09 2014
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Re: Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]


On 04/23/2014 09:36 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 07:57 23/04/2014 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>> ... Ubuntu clearly states on its website when 12.04 support will 
>> expire, so I know going in what I'm getting into. M$ gave me no such 
>> warning when I purchased my XP machine years ago.
>
> That's odd. You may want to bookmark 
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle for future 
> reference. Apparently XP was originally intended to expire at the end 
> of 2011 - ten years after its release - but this was postponed in 2007 
> to this month. So whenever you purchased it, you would have expected 
> expiration either now or much sooner.
>
> (Er, no: I am not taking sides. But I do like to see arguments being 
> based on evidence.)
>
> Brian Barker
>
I think the real point is the MS is not providing a reasonable upgrade 
for many users. Both in terms of cost and ease. Many with XP can not run 
W8 at all and have three options: continue to use XP, replace the 
computer which is still working, or replace the OS with a Linux distro. 
Since most Linux distros are free, replacing XP with Linux is the 
cheapest option and viable for many. Also, there is no direct upgrade 
path from XP to W7 and I assume this is true for W8 also. Thus, XP has 
to installed first then it is wiped out by the new OS which means all 
the applications and data must be reinstalled (after first saving the 
data).

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Gmane