Michael Bauer | 1 Jun 16:51 2011

Extensions

Guys,

I'm not sure what the politics are and I'm not that interested to be 
honest. But I have a practical problem - LO links to the OO extensions 
site, which has also been down for almost as long as the OO Pootle site.

Is there something in the pipeline for a separate extensions site? Or 
does anyone know if the OO Extenstions site is coming back?

Cheers,

Michael
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Marc Paré | 1 Jun 17:22 2011

Re: Extensions

Hi Michael

Le 2011-06-01 10:51, Michael Bauer a écrit :
> Guys,
>
> I'm not sure what the politics are and I'm not that interested to be
> honest. But I have a practical problem - LO links to the OO extensions
> site, which has also been down for almost as long as the OO Pootle site.
>
> Is there something in the pipeline for a separate extensions site? Or
> does anyone know if the OO Extenstions site is coming back?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael

The problem with extensions has/is being discussed on the website list. 
You may want to catch up on the threads and you may wish to participate 
on those threads as they are monitored and commented by the website team 
members who are involved in the upcoming solution. So, for the time 
being, the link will still point there as there are other extenuating 
circumstances making the migration of the extensions to LibO servers, 
the most important one being that of copyright. We are having problems 
confirming copyright from the extension authors as there are no 
email/contact that accompany the extensions. But this is being worked on.

The extensions site is still working, but it is an Oracle run site and 
the server is slow and unpredictable. But you can still access it 
between hiccups for the time being.

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Andrea Pescetti | 1 Jun 17:48 2011

Re: Re: Extensions

Marc Paré wrote:
> The extensions site is still working, but it is an Oracle run site

It isn't (even though it must be the fifth time or so that I have to
write this, so you are in good company in thinking wrong!). See the same
thread you linked to, namely
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.website/4753

> and the server is slow and unpredictable. But you can still access it

This is true. But problems are totally unrelated to Oracle. OSUOSL
support is working on it, but quite slowly.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Marc Paré | 1 Jun 18:33 2011

Re: Extensions

Le 2011-06-01 11:48, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
> Marc Paré wrote:
>> The extensions site is still working, but it is an Oracle run site
>
> It isn't (even though it must be the fifth time or so that I have to
> write this, so you are in good company in thinking wrong!). See the same
> thread you linked to, namely
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.website/4753
>
>> and the server is slow and unpredictable. But you can still access it
>
> This is true. But problems are totally unrelated to Oracle. OSUOSL
> support is working on it, but quite slowly.
>
> Regards,
>    Andrea.
>
>

Yes, sorry Andrea,

Agh! I did it again. Thanks for correcting me and my apologies for the 
adding to the confusion.

Cheers

Marc

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Andras Timar | 1 Jun 23:05 2011
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OOo goes to Apache Foundation

Hi,

Probably you've read the news, OOo code and trademarks were given to
Apache Foundation. For details start reading
here:
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/
and here: http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2011-06-01.html

Let me shortly comment this – wearing my localizer hat. Apache
Foundation requires Apache License which is not a copyleft license. It
allows use of the source code – and my translations, too – for the
development of proprietary software. Incidentally, that's what IBM is
doing and probably will do in the future: they after all want code
others wrote for free, while keeping their code proprietary and
occasionally dumping the unimportant parts to an open core to ease
maintenance. I feel reluctant to support this scheme.

Best regards,
Andras

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Anton Meixome | 2 Jun 01:25 2011
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Re: OOo goes to Apache Foundation

Hi Andras,

I understand your position. I think that the Oracle movement means
they want put code out of GPL for a hipotetical future developpement
(propietary, of course).
This and too that they perhaps want split the developpers community
atracting corporative interest to an OOo supported by Apache, but
feading on the developpement of LibO code.
Why they no changed the their license to Apache model, whithout lose
the leadership? I believe that it's not for favor IBM Symphony.
Simply, OOo in their hands is dead but in hands of AF they would do
money eventually.
Who is the fork now?
Apache is a US entity, I am convinced that his weight has also.

Now, from the viewpoint of a minorized language like mine I do not
care if they use the translation that I have done in recent years to
OOo.org. I wish IBM would make a Galician version too but do not see
it close. Our best strategy, our weaknes, would make it as possible
for the development of payment is made through the TDF and admit
developing extensions in proprietary code.

Excuss my poor english.

Antón Méixome

2011/6/1 Andras Timar <timar74 <at> gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Probably you've read the news, OOo code and trademarks were given to
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Andras Timar | 2 Jun 09:33 2011
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Korean comments in LibreOffice source code

Hi,

I wonder if we have Korean translators subscribed to this list who are
willing to help us in translating some Korean comments into English.

The source file is here:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/filters/tree/hwpfilter/source/hwpreader.cxx
There are a few Korean comments in there (text between /* and */).
Just send the line numbers + translations, or a patch.

Many thanks,
Andras

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Christian Lohmaier | 2 Jun 12:27 2011

Re: Korean comments in LibreOffice source code

Hi Andras, *,

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Andras Timar <timar74 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wonder if we have Korean translators subscribed to this list who are
> willing to help us in translating some Korean comments into English.
>
> The source file is here:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/filters/tree/hwpfilter/source/hwpreader.cxx

also 3 items in the hpara.cpp file

> There are a few Korean comments in there (text between /* and */).
> Just send the line numbers + translations, or a patch.

You can also just use the patch that restored the original comments
and edit the strings in there
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/filters/commit/?id=6887101c48733f85e1f2f9f1dc06524ebfae8c38
→ click on Patch above to dowload a patch

ciao
Christian

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Mike Dupont | 2 Jun 14:29 2011

Re: OOo goes to Apache Foundation

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Andras Timar <timar74 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Apache  Foundation requires Apache License which is not a copyleft license.
> It allows use of the source code – and my translations, too – for the
> development of proprietary software.
This means that changes can be cherry picked out and included in
libreoffice, no?
That seems to be good enough. I have to say that my first impression
of new libreoffice is very good. It is so much faster than ooo for
some reason.

Also, may i ask what is the point of a lgpl. library gpl for an
application, does that make sense? I guess it is historical. Why not
switch to gpl pure.

mike

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toki | 3 Jun 05:19 2011
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Re: OOo goes to Apache Foundation


On 02/06/2011 12:29, Mike Dupont wrote:

> This means that changes can be cherry picked out and included in libreoffice, no?

What changes?

Under the new OOo license there is no requirement for source code to be
available, much less sent up stream.

Which means that the best license for LibO to use is AGPL, precisely
because it is incompatible with the EULA that OOo will be distributed
under. (Unless you don't mind your LibO contributions being used in a
closed source, priority program that is distributed under a EULA on
slightly less restrictive than MSO2000 Enterprise Edition.)

> Also, may i ask what is the point of a lgpl. library gpl for an application.

It allows the program to be distributed as closed source, without making
that fact immediately obvious.

jonathon
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