Timofonic | 20 Dec 21:08 2014
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Re: RfD: Non-corporate user representation?

Hello.

I think we (users) sometimes fail to connect with developers' mindset.

Due to our lack of technical knowledge and often a lack of discipline, our feedback isn't enough
interesting for them and we sometimes feel quite ignored. In the end, we the users try (emphasis here, we
know what we want but how how we want it and commonly fail to explain it properly) to explain our needs and
what we think it should be improved from a different POV.

I tried to explain my education-related issues and needs, such as inserting formulas in a Libreoffice
Writer document (I find it needs to support boolean stuff like xor symbols and some other improvements). I
know there's limited resources, but I think maybe corporate needs are becoming too heavy and other areas
like education are underrated. What about a lot more non-profit organizations becoming part of BoD?

I also had some weird "bugs" (or unintended software behavior) when writing large texts, but I often forget
to note them (and unable to explain a way to reproduce it) because I'm in a hurry and was lazy too.

Maybe different specific associations should be part of BoD and user feedback be taken more seriously in a
less marketeer way but more scientific and social.

Regards.

El 19 de diciembre de 2014 14:38:15 CET, Simon Phipps <simon <at> webmink.com> escribió:
>Inspired by this and some other similar conversations, here's my
>thought:
>http://www.infoworld.com/article/2860074/open-source-software/become-an-open-source-software-tester.html
>
>S.
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Nino Novak | 5 Dec 11:37 2014

RfD: Non-corporate user representation?

Hi,

AFAICS, TDF does not have any formal "Joe Average" user lobby.

There are BoD, ESC, MC, AB - but the end user community only can send their
opinions, needs and ideas to mailing lists or speak up informally in meetings.

What about the idea of creating e.g. a "User Interest Commitee" (or board),
which has an advisory role - similar to the AB? Could this help to better
channelize / make visible the interests of "normal users"? There are highly
competent people around in mailing lists and forums, who, at least to my
believe, should be given a stronger voice than to just send a mail to a list.

(I know, the big hurdle is "to do it", but nevertheless wanted to express
what I think/feel here as a starting point).

Regards,
Nino

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clarence | 1 Dec 12:00 2014
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Cannot Open PDF Landscape Pages Properly When Libreoffice

Hi guys,

When I open a pdf with landscape and portrait pages, only the portrait pages
get displayed correctly. 
What can I do if it is a large file with many pages? 
How do I correct this problem?
Thanks. 

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RichardH | 27 Nov 03:49 2014
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Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V only works for 1 cell in Calc

I just noticed this in the latest upgrade to 4.3.4.1-1, also 4.3.3.1-1, and
in 4.2.7.
                           Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V works as expected to copy 1 cell
and paste it into another cell. 

The problem: Ctrl-C to copy a cell, move to another cell, 
                           hold shift and down arrow at least 1 cell; (total
of 2 cells to write into).
                           Ctrl-V brings up a dialog for Text Import and
nothing I do will write the copy into 2 cells. 

It may be something that I've done or configured, but I've tried other
versions.
Would really like a clue how to get the old behavior back again. 

saludos,
Richard.

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Sophie | 8 Oct 09:52 2014
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Videos of the LibreOffice conference in Bern

Hi all,

The Bern local team has now uploaded the videos of the LibreOffice
conference 2014 in Bern on our official YouTube channel.
You'll find them here:

Marketing and Migration Room:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0pdzjvYW9RHxkvcAQE1eXh3Eea5MOZVC

Developer Room:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0pdzjvYW9RFgEyPR_4C7feNfDfk2qTRg

Community Room:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0pdzjvYW9REH-g1NxEwjCAPOBd1prKCm

Some videos are missing right now, but they will follow in approx. two
weeks :)

Thanks a lot to the team and enjoy!
Kind regards
Sophie
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Werner | 20 Aug 13:38 2014
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Munich and OpenSource

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/19/munich_dumping_linux_for_windows/

I hope it won't ge going as far as some of these CDU politicians would like.

Werner

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Owen Genat | 19 Aug 10:22 2014
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Recent reversal / questioning of policy by München government

This
<http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/muenchner-stadtverwaltung-von-microsoft-zu-linux-und-zurueck-1.2090611>

recent Süddeutsche article (German text - English version via Google
Translate 
here
<https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sueddeutsche.de%2Fmuenchen%2Fmuenchner-stadtverwaltung-von-microsoft-zu-linux-und-zurueck-1.2090611&edit-text=&act=url> 
) seems to be getting cited by a number of Tech news sites. The ZDNet
article 
here
<http://www.zdnet.com/after-a-10-year-linux-migration-munich-considers-switching-back-to-windows-and-office-7000032714/>

appears to offer more detail than most. Scant mention is made of LibreOffice
in any of the articles.

Does anyone have a clearer understanding of what this may mean in terms of
LibreOffice use if the policy is reversed and a transition from LiMux
(Ubuntu-based distribution) back to Microsoft Windows begins? LibreOffice
can of course run on either platform, but part of the issue seems to have
been OOXML support when exchanging files with customers. It will be
disheartening to see a reversal after so much effort.

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Nigel Verity | 7 Aug 12:25 2014
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Tango Icon Theme

Hi

I have upgraded to LO 4.3 on Debian (32 bit).

I see that some of the toolbar icons in the Tango style have changed from 4.2 (for example bold, underline,
italic). Is this intentional or will they revert back to the familiar icons in due course?

Thanks.

Regards

Nige Verity
 		 	   		  
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Verified.by.Visa | 30 Jul 02:20 2014
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Scarica.Telegramma.Online-<20140730022049.4C86CE05D3FAAC15 <at> verifica.it>

Gentile discuss ,

Notifica invio telegramma (n.di.accettazione 
<20140730022049.4C86CE05D3FAAC15 <at> verifica.it>)    
E necessario scaricare e compilare modulo allegato.

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Nigel Verity | 28 Jul 21:58 2014
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LO Base Enhancements

Hi
 
I was an MS Access developer for about 10 years until I was able to escape to Linux. I used OOO/LibreOffice
even when I was tied to Windows but it always fell down when it came to database access.
 
Base is great as a means of accessing a wide variety of database back-ends, but its form designer falls well
of short of MS Access, both in features and ease of use. When a new user opens the Base designer the first
sight is of a fairly familiar-looking interface. This encouraging start is undermined once it becomes
apparent how difficult macro programming can be, and how little flexibility there is over the form's
visual design and behaviour.
 
HSQLDB seems to be powerful in terms of its support for complex SQL execution, but it is relatively slow and
inefficient when there is a large number of records.
 
For the vast majority of users, LO Writer, Calc and Impress already provide everything they would ever want
from an office suite. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for Base.
 
When I am developing standalone database applications for Linux I use Gambas3, talking to a Sqlite
backend. The connection can be defined in the form designer or 4 lines of code. There is no dependency on
Java, and bound controls and subforms are fully supported. In short, this combination of FLOSS
components pretty much provides a complete Linux replacement for MS Access.
 
Sqlite has a large and well-organised development team. It performs really well even with very large
datasets. I feel that making Sqlite the default database for LO Base in place of HSQLDB would free
resources for more development of the front-end.
 
I would urge you to take a look at Gambas3 to see how easy it is to develop a database application with it.
Perhaps taking it as inspiration for an enhanced Base will finally make LibreOffice a one-stop solution
for a great many businesses.
 
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Jochen Schiffers | 20 Jul 20:18 2014
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Enhancment: Inserting cross-references: headings -> display -> function as Navigator

Hi *,

Problem:
Using Documents - containing a lot of headings  - the problem exits, 
that inserting cross-references "headings" in the field "display" the  
search of the heading is inconvenient.

Enhancement:
IMHO it is a relief when the presentation in the "display" can be opened 
or closed as the Navigator.

I have created an enhancement in Bugzilla[1].
If anyone can identify with this suggestion, I would be happy for 
entering a comment and/or entering to the CC list.

[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81570

Regards (from Germany)

Jochen

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