Ruben Pollan | 5 Oct 2010 13:43
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moving towards 0.8

There is two key points I want to make for the next release, configure script
for auto detect the system preferences and improve the categories.

I been working on the first one for the last week and so. I created a configure
script using ACR (http://www.nopcode.org/wk.php/Acr), it auto detect where
curses is installed and some few more things.

The script is automatically generated from the configure.acr, but I keep it on
the repositories so the developers don't need to have ACR installed. The script
is generated with the ACR from mercurial, the last released version is missing
some proper support for C++.

The second thing I want to improve in tudu is the categories. Right now a task
can be only in one category (or none) and the categories are maximum 7
characters long. I would like to remove this two limitations, making possible to
have categories as long as you wish and adding the possibility to have one task
in more than one category.

But I'm not sure how the interface should look like. So if you have some ideas
I'll love to hear them.

I'm thinking maybe on making some commands like :addcategory, :rmcategory, ...
to edit the category list of the selected task. I don't know if is better to
keep the category display like is now, showing only one category of the task; or
create a new window to show all the categories of the task; or a new window to
show the categories that are displayed with different color for the ones that
the task has. I don't know how I would like it.

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Re: moving towards 0.8

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Ruben Pollan wrote:

> There is two key points I want to make for the next release, configure script
> for auto detect the system preferences and improve the categories.
>
>
> I been working on the first one for the last week and so. I created a configure
> script using ACR (http://www.nopcode.org/wk.php/Acr), it auto detect where
> curses is installed and some few more things.
>
> The script is automatically generated from the configure.acr, but I keep it on
> the repositories so the developers don't need to have ACR installed. The script
> is generated with the ACR from mercurial, the last released version is missing
> some proper support for C++.

Never heard of ACR. I guess it's simpler than old good Autoconf.

> The second thing I want to improve in tudu is the categories. Right now a task
> can be only in one category (or none) and the categories are maximum 7
> characters long. I would like to remove this two limitations, making possible to
> have categories as long as you wish and adding the possibility to have one task
> in more than one category.
>
> But I'm not sure how the interface should look like. So if you have some ideas
> I'll love to hear them.
>
> I'm thinking maybe on making some commands like :addcategory, :rmcategory, ...
> to edit the category list of the selected task. I don't know if is better to
> keep the category display like is now, showing only one category of the task; or
> create a new window to show all the categories of the task; or a new window to
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Ruben Pollan | 5 Oct 2010 14:44
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Re: moving towards 0.8

On 14:02, Tue 05 Oct 10, Enrique Matías Sánchez (Quique) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Ruben Pollan wrote:
> >
> > I been working on the first one for the last week and so. I created a configure
> > script using ACR (http://www.nopcode.org/wk.php/Acr), it auto detect where
> > curses is installed and some few more things.
> >
> 
> Never heard of ACR. I guess it's simpler than old good Autoconf.

Yes, I don't like much the complexity of autoconf. I think it don't make sense
in a small project like tudu. But I like the idea of a configure script, I don't
like CMake or SConf because you have to have installed another tool more in your
system. The one I liked more of the ones I try is ACR, is pretty simple.

> 
> I can tell you how I would like it:
> I don't actually care about how the categories will look like in the
> main screen (showing just one per task, or all of them in a new panel,
> are equally fine for me).

:)

> 
> What I would actually like is being able to filter per category. That
> is, to get *only* the tasks in a given category (#work, #home,
> #delegated, or whatever). Such a feature could be quite useful.

This feature already exist. It's documented on the man page, on the section
COMMANDS.
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Re: moving towards 0.8

2010/10/5 Ruben Pollan:

>> Never heard of ACR. I guess it's simpler than old good Autoconf.
>
> Yes, I don't like much the complexity of autoconf. I think it don't make sense
> in a small project like tudu. But I like the idea of a configure script, I don't
> like CMake or SConf because you have to have installed another tool more in your
> system. The one I liked more of the ones I try is ACR, is pretty simple.

I understand your choice, hope this tool will be kept maintained in the future.

>> What I would actually like is being able to filter per category. That
>> is, to get *only* the tasks in a given category (#work, #home,
>> #delegated, or whatever). Such a feature could be quite useful.
>
> This feature already exist. It's documented on the man page, on the section
> COMMANDS.

Gosh. After writing the manpage myself, I managed to forget about this
feature...
/me needs a new brain :(

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Ruben Pollan | 5 Oct 2010 16:05
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Re: moving towards 0.8

On 14:57, Tue 05 Oct 10, Enrique Matías Sánchez (Quique) wrote:
> 2010/10/5 Ruben Pollan:
> 
> >> Never heard of ACR. I guess it's simpler than old good Autoconf.
> >
> > Yes, I don't like much the complexity of autoconf. I think it don't make sense
> > in a small project like tudu. But I like the idea of a configure script, I don't
> > like CMake or SConf because you have to have installed another tool more in your
> > system. The one I liked more of the ones I try is ACR, is pretty simple.
> 
> I understand your choice, hope this tool will be kept maintained in the future.

It is not in a fast development. Actually really few projects use it, so it's
only developed for the needs of each project. Like for tudu now was changed to
support it properly.  The project was started on 2003 and is still maintained,
so I guess we don't have to worry about it in near future.

> 
> Gosh. After writing the manpage myself, I managed to forget about this
> feature...
> /me needs a new brain :(

:D

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Patrick YU | 6 Oct 2010 19:47

Re: moving towards 0.8

Ruben Pollan <meskio <at> ...> writes:
...
> I'm thinking maybe on making some commands like :addcategory, :rmcategory,
> ... to edit the category list of the selected task. I don't know if is
...
> or a new window to show the categories that are displayed with different
> color for the ones that the task has. I don't know how I would like it.

On editing, when the user press 'C', how about reusing the existing bottom pane 
to show all the existing categories for user to edit the area, and 'Esc' to
save as the category list for the task ?

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Ruben Pollan | 7 Oct 2010 00:40
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Re: moving towards 0.8

On 17:47, Wed 06 Oct 10, Patrick YU wrote:
> Ruben Pollan <meskio <at> ...> writes:
> ...
> > I'm thinking maybe on making some commands like :addcategory, :rmcategory,
> > ... to edit the category list of the selected task. I don't know if is
> ...
> > or a new window to show the categories that are displayed with different
> > color for the ones that the task has. I don't know how I would like it.
> 
> On editing, when the user press 'C', how about reusing the existing bottom pane 
> to show all the existing categories for user to edit the area, and 'Esc' to
> save as the category list for the task ?

That could be a good way. I'm still not sure how to do it, but that could be.

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julius kolbe | 13 Oct 2010 12:29
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Repeating dates

Hello!
I'm new to tudu so I have to ask some stupid things ;)
Is it possible in Tudu to repeat tasks every week or year like a birthday?
Also it would be nice to fold and unfold the trees and the possibility to change the keybindings.
If not this would be some feature requests.

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Re: Repeating dates

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM, julius kolbe wrote:

> Hello!
> I'm new to tudu so I have to ask some stupid things ;)
> Is it possible in Tudu to repeat tasks every week or year like a birthday?

As far as I know, it's not possible at the moment.

> Also it would be nice to fold and unfold the trees

You can press the `c' key to fold/unfold any tree.

> and the possibility to change the keybindings.

That's already possible. You can create your own ~/.tudurc config file
with customized keybindings.

> If not this would be some feature requests.

Periodic tasks would be a nice feature, certainly.

Grüss,
 Quique

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Ruben Pollan | 14 Oct 2010 15:51
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Re: Repeating dates

On 12:55, Wed 13 Oct 10, Enrique Matías Sánchez (Quique) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM, julius kolbe wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> > I'm new to tudu so I have to ask some stupid things ;)

Hello Julios, welcome :)

> > Is it possible in Tudu to repeat tasks every week or year like a birthday?
> 
> As far as I know, it's not possible at the moment.

tudu was not designed to be a PIM (personal information manager).  So I'm not
sure if it makes sense to have tasks that can repeat. I don't know how this
concept can fit with tudu.

What are you thinking on? Something that is added to the scheduler periodically?
A task that mark it shelf as undone every certain time?

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