Michael . | 19 Sep 07:33 2014

Minimal install of TDE

I'm about to start on making a live version of a minimal install of TDE for Cobber (Australasian Debian). I am wondering what are the absolute minimum packages required for a working TDE without applications. The intent behind the minimal install is to allow end users who want to choose the applications in their install to install only what they need and want. I will provide synaptic (or a TDE equivalent) for those who want a gui for package selection but there will be no office suite, games, graphics tools, music or video tools. In other words all I want is the visible desktop, menu etc so that the user can navigate enough to install more applications through their internet connection using either synaptic or a terminal.

Greg Madden | 19 Sep 05:37 2014

K3B blu-ray support

Just bought my first blu-ray drive, for data archives.  Support for 
blu-ray was added to K3B in version 2.0, current is 2.02.

Is it possible to add blu-ray support to legacy, v1.05 in TDE R14, K3B ?

I can  burn blu-ray with growisofs from the cli, prefer K3B.




Lisi Reisz | 18 Sep 17:17 2014

systemd and sysvinit, a question

Since this list seems prepared to stick to logic, facts and solutions, rather 
than heat and emotion, perhaps some kind soul would answer a question for me.

I have no opinion on init systems.  I accept what I am given and am grateful, 
but ....  

If sysvinit is as staggerigly marvellous as it is being painted by some, and 
if it was such a near thing that it got dropped as the Debian default init 
system, how come the vote was apparently between Upstart and systemd?  And 
given that it was a vote between Upstart and systemd, why are some people so 
up in arms and ranting that sysvinit was dropped by a meaningless margin?  
(The chairman's casting vote.)  When and how was the decison to drop sysvinit 
as the Debian default init system actually taken?


Greg Madden | 11 Sep 14:04 2014

Distro, Q4OS, using TDE as default DE

This just popped up on Distrowatch: Q4OS using TDE 3.5.13 . Debian 
Wheezy based. 


Nice to see...cool.




Greg Madden | 11 Sep 06:03 2014

Re: Wheezy upgrade to R14

On Thursday 14 August 2014 10:11:17 am you wrote:

> >>
> >> And if you do manage to find the offending file I'd like to figure
> >> out what happened so that we can prevent it occurring for anyone
> >> else!
> >>
> >> Tim
> >
> Very strange; it looks like the kdesktop_lock process is continuously
> restarting.  I have never encountered anything remotely like this.
> Are you certain kdesktop and kdesktop_lock are the latest R14
> versions? If there is an old or lower kdesktop_lock
> executable in your path it might theoretically be able to do
> something like this.
> Tim

Never found an answer, the kdesktop_lock was so annoying, even dropping 
back to the login screen again.

I removed all *-trinity packages, + 'rm -R /opt/trinity' ..whatever was 
left there,  removed anything remotly associated wit TDE, tqt3*? stuff.

Re-installed and it works ! I enclosed my current .xsession-errors file, 
much cleaner..a few comments I don't see when running Wmaker, which I 
had to use to sort this thing out..yea for WM.

It sems it was a failed upgrade, all the packages were R14 versions but 
something in /opt/trinity or /etc ? 

Thanks for all the comments.

[dcopserver] It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are 
sure that it is not already running, 
remove /home/pabi/.DCOPserver_tdewheezy__0
and start dcopserver again.
[kded] Daemon (kded) is already running.
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[tdebuildsycoca] Reusing existing tdesycoca.
[dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[starttde] tdeinit started successfully.
[kdesktop] SAK driven secure dialog is not available for use (retcode 
6).  Check tdmtsak for proper functionality.
[tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-pabi/kdesktop_lock_lockfile
[tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-pabi/kdesktop_lock_lockfile
[tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-pabi/kdesktop_lock_lockfile
[tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-pabi/kdesktop_lock_lockfile
[kdesktop] SAK driven secure dialog is not available for use (retcode 
6).  Check tdmtsak for proper functionality.
tdeio (TDEIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data (pid 15589 
process "nit] media /tmp/tdesocket-pabi/tdelauncherSfEROM.")
[tdeinit] Could not find 'tdewalletmanager' executable.




Alexandre | 3 May 02:42 2014

PCLinuxOS non-official TDE remaster version 2014, April 30 is ready to download!

Hi everyone!

My PCLinuxOS TDE non-official remaster version 2014, April 30 is ready to download!

I call it non-official because it doesn't come from the PCLOS team and since it contains software coming from outside of
their repos, it is also not supported by them. It only has a special ''permission to exist'' from the PCLinuxOS dev team.

It can be seen as a whole as the much-loved PCLOS 2007, but fully updated and upgraded.
It is a complete system that can be used as a LiveDVD or it can be installed (from the LiveDVD).

New on this release:
-Fully updated PCLinuxOS 2014 base system
-Based on stable TDE
-A theme switch Zenity script to let the user switch between the more modern theme I use and TDE Classic theme, to please more users.
-A SuperKaramba theme pack
-XBMC media center and wine are new apps included on the DVD

On this LiveDVD:
-Tons of TDE software and major apps like LibreOffice, Firefox and Gimp

Login info (on the LiveDVD):
Regular user:guest    Password:guest
Super user: root    Password:root

System requirement:
A x86 computer with at least 384mb of RAM.
It is a 32bit system, but it can be installed on a 64bit system too.

Download link:
PCLinuxOS_no_TDE_remaster_30avril2014.iso 1.99 GB

Please note that you will need to install the MEGA Download Manager Firefox (or Iceweasel) plugin to download a file of that size.
If you are unsure about itd, you can uninstall the plugin right after the download.

Md5 Sum:

If you like what you see, you can consider giving some money to the Trinity Desktop Environment project!

Give me your comments!
Uwe Brauer | 29 Apr 12:50 2014

3.5.12 vs 3.5.13 performance?


I have installed on a Thinkpad X200 (4 Giga RAM) Kubuntu 10.04+
I think trinity 3.5.12 (sudo dpkg -l | grep kde3) gives things like 

"adept-manager-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1124765 package manager for KDE3"

Now I have recently installed Lucid+trinity 3.5.13 on a much older
Thinkpad with just 1.5 Giga RAM.

I have the impression that the second installation is much faster, for
example the 

Control panel which I have at the botton of my screen needs ages to
disappear in the first installation but only miliseconds in the second.

Can anybody confirm this (so is a upgrade recommended?)


Uwe Brauer 
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Alexandre | 27 Apr 16:27 2014

What about Mir and Wayland future support?


Looks like X11 is will come to the end of its life in the next few years, while Ubuntu talks of Mir and there is also Wayland. Will it be possible to adapt TDE and TQt3 for these new graphic frameworks?

Here is some links on it:

Michael . | 27 Apr 13:00 2014

Possible new distribution and mirror for Trinity Desktop Environment.

Hi I'm Michael (k3lt01) and I am the lead (read only) person involved in CobberLinux (1) or Cobber for short.

The intent behind Cobber is to create an Australasian Linux that is easy to use and suits the countries in Australasia. I have created my own repository (using reprepro) and it is hosted on sourceforge (2). To give Australasian users a wide variety of choices I am creating different flavours or Cobber using different Desktop Environments. My intent is to support, via translation and repository hosting if need be, Desktop Environments who support Cobber's Australasian users. By this I mean Desktop Environments that allow and encourage users to have their own language (or national language) as standard in the distribution.

Now that I have briefly explained Cobber I have 2 questions for you.
1. How do I translate Trinity Desktop Environment into Australian (New Zealand, Papua New Guinean) English? I have a transifex account (user name k3lt01) and a script to do automatic translations. I have already translated MATE, XFCE, and Pidgin messenger and will translate Gnome and KDE when I get the time (they have a massive amount of pot files to work through).
2. Would you like, or even allow, me to host your packages in Cobber's sourceforge repository so that cobber users have a geographically close mirror to access?
Michael (k3lt01)
Baron | 23 Apr 20:38 2014

Text Vanished

Hi Guys,

Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his 
applications and logout window has disapeared !

He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.

I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks in advance:

Best Regards:

Greg Madden | 23 Apr 06:26 2014

Gwenview memory usage

Wheezy amd 64, TDE

I use Gwenview to view .tiff files, these are Architectural D drawings 
scanned to .tiff. They range in size: 350K>1.1M.

The feature I kike about Gwenview as a viewer is I can view a directory 
full of tiff files and browse thru them using the toolbar.

The downside, it seems, is that after viewing about 10 or so files  all 
8gb of memory is used, all other apps have been swapped out so checking 
mail or any other task is slow ..actually the workstation becomes to 
slow to be productive.

Memory is not released between file views..is this normal?  This is 
first app I have noticed using all memory so quickly..seems unusual.