John Pisini | 17 Apr 16:45 2014

PCLinuxOS version question

I have had the same thing happen on two different machines. I installed it and everything was working OK but then I did an upgrade and on reboot both machines hang after logging into Trinity. The background shows up and that is it. Mouse moves but I can't do anything including shut down have to hard power off the box. Both machines are laptops with Intel chips and video cards if that makes any difference. The other thing is on both machines I have downloaded a different kernel as I have 4gb of ram in one laptop and 8gb in the other and PCLinux only sees two with the kernel on the CD. I know Alexandre said he was working on a new v ersion but I was wondering if anyone else had seen this?

dollyclone | 16 Apr 10:44 2014

using shared-mime-info


is there a way to use shared-mime-info database as XDG standard, 
instead of obsolete "Type=MimeType" in .desktop files ?

Dolly Pete

Robert Peters | 13 Apr 23:33 2014

Trying to activate wlan0 and eth0

My Thinkpad laptop has a Lubuntu partition that has wired and wireless
access: the modules are iwlwifi and e1000e.
Another partition runs exeGnu Trinity 14 but no internet connection.
I used modprobe to install the above modules and put their names in
/etc/modules, but wlan0 and eth0 are still not seen.
What to do?

Alexandre | 13 Apr 01:45 2014

Is there a TDE build for Raspberry Pi RaspBian?

I would like to know if there is a set of packages available for the Raspberry Pi model B with 512mb of RAM mini computer. I use Raspbian (based on Debian 7).

I bought it last week and with the turbo (well...) overclock at 1000mhz, it has almost adequate processing power for running TDE, probably similar to the power of PCs used in the first part of the KDE3 era.

Thank you very much!
Tini | 12 Apr 16:37 2014

Re: Doing Non-Destructive Installations?

I did a quick check, my local shop sells 'HGST Touro Mobile' XHDD 
for $55. So, I'll grab one next week and backup all of my home files 
(shoulda did that already) and then install the new OS.

--- Original Message ---
From: Thierry de Coulon <tdecoulon@...>
To: trinity-users@...
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Doing Non-Destructive Installations?
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014

On Saturday 12 April 2014 04.52:21 Calvin Morrison wrote:
> well... Okay here's a longer answer... You could in theory delete
> everything besides your home folder, then install on partition, and
> manually make a user when you're done the install.

Yep, but be aware that if anything goes wrong you WILL lose your data. 

You don't say how much space you have or why another drive is no option, but having 700 GB of valuable data and
no backup... that's dangerous. 

Hard disks do die...


Russell Brown | 11 Apr 12:41 2014

Printer Control not showing jobs in queues

Does anyone know why the Trinity KDE Control Module for printers doesn't
show jobs in the print queues?

The problem is probably best illustrated with a screen scrape:

You can see in the xterm window the current queue status and in the
Control Module window no jobs showing up.  I've tried in both normal
user and Administrator mode.

I'm running:

% kcontrol --version
Qt: 3.3.8d
Trinity Control Center:

On an older KDE3 system:

% kcontrol --version
Qt: 3.3.8b
KDE: 3.5.10
KDE Control Center: 3.5.10

with, for all intents and purposes an identical printer setup, it works.


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Tini | 9 Apr 15:03 2014

Re: Last Kubuntu Version That Came With KDE3?

1. Think I'll skip Mint. I Googled 'mint 15 kaffeine' and the result page 
said 'kaffeine 1.2.2' which does not work. And I'm pretty sure they have 
the latest versions of 'Audacity' and 'WINE' which don't work. 

(WINE 1.6.1 won't run certain programs, and if I use Audacity 2.0.5 to 
edit an mp3 the new file sounds 'tinny' for some reason. I didn't have 
any problems with the older versions of WINE or Audacity) 

2. I almost went with Vector Linux 3 months ago. I didn't know it was outdated multi-media wise. 

3. I'm going to try TDE-Kubuntu, it has the version of kaffeine that 
I want. And the repo has WINE 1.4.0. Not quite the version I want, 
but it's better than 1.6.1 which doesn't run anything. 

--- Original Message ---
From: Chris Graham <chrisdgraham22@...>
To: trinity-users@...
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Last Kubuntu Version That Came With KDE3?
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014

Mint has the best media support I've yet seen. Annoying bugs are [1] it doesn't complete shutdown or reboot
automatically like any other modern distro (you have to halt it with the shutdown button) and [2] some gtk
widgets are mis-rendered in the Trinity DE (such as synaptic, but the programs all seem to work).

In general, the apps we know and love get broken in some versions and
fixed again in others. Same with distros. That's why I try out and multi-boot lots of them. 

I still occasionally run Vector 6 "Kde Classic" with 3.5.10, but it's become
useless for media now (even though it was great 18 months ago).

Lisi Reisz | 8 Apr 16:25 2014

Dead Sound Card

I have a client whose sound has suddenly died, after running well 
since the system was installed.  (Six months??  A bit more?)  The 
obvious explanations are user error (clicked something without 
realising) or dead hardware.

She is running Debian Wheezy with TDE on an oldish Dell 
laptop.  Since I haven't got the laptop here, I haven't got its 
specs.  I cannot have the laptop to work on for the moment, since she 
is using it a lot for now.

All suggestions or explanations welcomed,

aw30 | 8 Apr 12:50 2014

kmail library problem

I've just upgraded to Debian Jessie, and things seem to work, with two

1   I couldn't run xinit /opt/trinity/bin/startkde
because ksmserver-trinity was not reinstalled by default. I think
because of dependency problems, 
since I had to downgrade a few packages to get it to install. But that
is now sorted.

2   Having got Trinity to run, everything (so far) seems to work
except kmail, my favourite program!
 4: has been installed.

I get the following:

23:40 ~>kmail
kmail: error while loading shared libraries:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

But it's there...

23:41 ~>la /opt/trinity/lib/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8071664 Jun 14  2013

It seems to be the only file with this problem - it has the same
permissions as all the rest.
Where do I look next?

And before you ask, no, I'm not using kmail to write this, but
webmail, so sigs and things are a bit different...



Z2 | 7 Apr 17:50 2014

Does official SRU have hal or other hot-plugged h/w support?

I'm referring to the batch of packages at
as the "official" SRU, and was wondering if things like the old KDE 
desktop-popup-on-usbstick-insert is expected to work?

I'm running hal-0.5.14, though that may not have been installed at the time I 
compiled kdelibs-trinity-  I do notice that the 
kdelibs-trinity- that's on the official SRU release page 
does _not_ have a visible "WITH_HAL" option, nor any other h/w related 
settings such as "WITH_UDISK" etc.

So is it a known "feature" that this release doesn't isn't expected to work 
with hot-pluggable h/w, or is it just me?


Z2 | 7 Apr 07:14 2014

How many SRU's are there???


I'm a bit frustrated:

gives a list of trinity packages in TDE  To use one example of a 
package listed on that page (there are many more examples), I can get 
kdelibs-trinity- from there.

Now I go to the git webpage:

and there is no such package as kdelibs-trinity or kde* anything for that 

But, there is tdelibs, with a tdelibs- tarball:

v3.5.13.2  tdelibs-    Slávek Banko  10 

So, just to state what's looking pretty obvious, your 
release page is about as useful as tits on a boar, right?

Look, tdelibs-, for all intents and purposes, has the appearance of 
belonging to trinity-blah-blah-blah release "".  But its not listed 
on the release page for the oh so boldly announced:  "2013.07.21: Trinity 
Desktop Environment SRU Released!"

Why am I wrong in assuming that packageXXX- would belong to the "TDE SRU Released!" collection of tarballs?  Isn't == ?  
Maybe not.

And even if I'm wrong about that, why isn't kdelibs-trinity even so much as 
listed on the GIT page?  Even if its obsolete, there should a dead-link or 
something there saying so...whatever, not important.

What is important is the fact that kdelibs-trinity- is vastly 
different than tdelibs-, to wit, tdelibs has additional directories 
and functionality, etc.  So two packages, each with the same version, only 
one of which is needed, and both of which fullfill the same role, are 
currently in a state where the obsolete one is listed as part of the official 
release download page, and the good one can't even be found referenced as 
part of the official release.

So is there a collection of tarballs for a particular release, such as SRU, or not?  Should I just pull all tarballs from the git page?  
And if its just something as simple as a rename of kdelibs-trinity -> 
tdelibs, why wasn't the version bumped when extra directories were added?  
Never mind, I don't care about the "why" of anything.  I just want to know 
where the hell I can download a set of "official" (whatever that means) 
packages for tde-  And the release page ain't it...And by the way, 
I'm looking for source code, not some pansy mamby-pamby prebuilt set of