Alexandre | 25 Nov 14:19 2015

Release plans for TDE are probably to rethink


I think that the release plans for TDE are probably to rethink, or to do in another way.

As an example, most projects have their users use the stable releases, but in TDE, as R14.0.0 was not 100% up to what users expect, many of those switched up to Slavek's preliminary stable builds. This is not bad in itself to use unstable versions for testing purposes, but I do not think that it is the best idea to use it on a production system.

Also, as it is the case now, R14.0.2 is not said to be released, but you can see users complaining (with reasons) that it is very slow to update to R14.0.2., mostly because mirrors are not yet in sync with the main server.

I don't know enough about how software repos work, but I think that the new release should be blocked for a moment and then be available to users only when everything is ready and in sync on mirrors.

This would allow:

1. A more consistent release plan

2.Stop having to deal with users saying that they get kind-of error 404, or ultra slow download speed

3.Reduce Tim's bandwidth costs and load on its servers

What do you think?

Have a great day!


Dr. Nikolaus Klepp | 22 Nov 11:22 2015

Where to define kmail editor shortcuts?

Hi all!

After deaktivating KHotKeys daemon, the keybord shortcuts configured in kate work almost everywhere.
"Almost", because kmail ignores the custom defined shortcuts:

These two are accepted by kmail (defined in .trinity/share/config/kdeglobals):
"Undo" -> <Ctrl>+Z
"Redo" -> <Shift>+<Ctrl>+Z

This one is ignored by kmail (defined in .trinity/share/config/katerc and .trinity/share/config/kwriterc):
"delete line" -> <Ctrl>+Y 

Kmail uses the "extended editor component" - I think it's the same as kate and kwrite use.

Funny thing is, the "default" settings are accepted, that is kmail accepts these:
"split line" -> <Ctrl>+Y
"delete line" -> <Ctrl>+K

Any ideas?



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Dr. Nikolaus Klepp | 21 Nov 21:04 2015

Is <Ctrl>+Y hardcoded?

Hi all!

I have these keybindings defined in .trinity/share/config/kdeglobals:


And I have these keybindings defined in .trinity/share/config/katerc:

[Katepart Shortcuts]

So I assume, <Ctrl>+Y deletes a line in kate. But it doesn't, it perfoms "Undo" instead. This only affects
TDE applictions (kmail, kwrite, kate ...) but all others are unaffeted. For example "geany" behaves is
configured the same way (<Ctrl>+Z = undo, <Ctrl>+Y = delete line)

There is no match for "Ctrl+Y" neither in /etc/trinity nor /opt/trinity/etc/. 

So ... did I miss something? Or is "Ctrl+Y" hardcoded somewhere to be "Undo"?



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Ilya Dogolazky | 21 Nov 13:08 2015

keyboard layout switching

Hello !

I would like to understand how keyboard layouts are switched by the
Trinity. More precise:

1) what happening when user clicks on the flag icon? Some external
program called or some TDE process communicates with X-server (and
2) what part of Trinity source code do I have to read to understand it?
3) is it possible to send some D-Bus message (or something similar) to
emulate user's click on flag icon and/or select particular language
from the list of available keyboard layouts?
4) the same as #3, but vice versa: can an external program ask TDE
"what keyboard do we have right now"?
5) If answer to #3 is "NO", is there any chance for a patch doing it
to be included into TDE ?
6) What is the situation with questions #3 & #4 in the "mainstream
window managers" (like KDE, Gnome) nowadays ?


Ilya D.

François Andriot | 17 Nov 18:33 2015

Trinity translation system proposal


AFAIK, we still have to find a convenient system to allow contributors 
to update the Trinity translations (tde-i18n).

I've found a free software that looks promising to me:

Has anyone experienced it before ?


Michele Calgaro | 16 Nov 14:11 2015

Re: New splash proposal for amaroK

On 2015/11/16 07:57 AM, Alexandre wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*De :* Andrew Young <mail@...>
> *Envoyé :* 15 novembre 2015 12:50 *À :* *Objet :* Re:
[trinity-devel] New
> splash proposal for amaroK Hi
> The new Amarok splash looks great. However I have a few comments, IDK if they've been mentioned already.
> 1) Is the CD spinning in the correct direction?
> 2) Is the moon correctly aligned? I assume it's Earth's moon
> eh, really?
> 3) TDE Music Player, I think Trinity Music Player is better
> I don't like the word ''Trinity'' personally. I think TDE is cooler.
> 4) There is a grey background tint at the bottom of the image, I don't think it's needed
> 5) The tops of 'amar' and the CD have a few grey pixels
> That is anti-alias, or sub-pixel hinting.
> 6) White pixels top left and top right
> I like the trees silhouette, grey hills and purple glow.
> I guess these are fairly minor quibbles.
> Andrew
> Hi all,
> Here is a new version, with the version (ha!) number in it.
> This is not a good idea to have the version number in a splash screen, because it means that the splash screen
> picture will have to be modified if/when a new version of the app is out. More maintenance is not better...
> I will keep the wolf. Matter of fact there is a wolf in the amaroK icon since the first release (maybe in 2005?).
> It is only in the last splash screen that they did, that the wolf has been removed. But anyway, the concept of the
> wolf yelling at the moon would make no sense at all without the wolf.
> -Alexandre
What about the attached modified version? The CD is spinning in the other way, "TDE music player" is
slightly smaller
and the v1.4 is near the Amarok name and not "lost" in the top right corner.
I just did a raw select-copy-paste so the result is somehow basic, surely Alex can do better.

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Alexandre | 14 Nov 19:53 2015

New splash proposal for amaroK


This morning I had some time to play with Gimp, and I made a new splash for amaroK.

It is based on a few KFaenza and Masalla 0.8 (0.8 is now gpl, by the way) icons.

Tell me what you think, and if someone is interested in seeing it replace the old one.

Have a great day!


Darrell | 4 May 19:12 2014

Taskbar icons

When changing the panel height from 37 to 38 pixels, the taskbar icon buttons start stacking. Is there a way
to stop that stacking behavior?

Slávek Banko | 3 May 13:22 2014

FYI: hal removed from Jessie

Michele, Tim,

as I noticed HAL has been removed from Jessie:

Revision 3841
Modified Wed Apr 23 13:19:34 2014 UTC (9 days, 21 hours ago) by biebl 
Mark the hal packages as kfreebsd-any hurd-any. On Linux they have been
superseded by udev/udisks/upower.

This means that kpowersave has no meaning build for Jessie.