Wallpaper Has Stopped Working

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Re: Wallpaper Has Stopped Working

On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:29:27 +0000
Mark Williams <mark.williams <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:

> /home/mark/Apps/Settings/Wallpaper/AppRun' --sync
>
/home/mark/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1=635247a74610064dd00787834890340a9babcaee/Wallpaper/main.py:8:
DeprecationWarning: Use the new widget gtk.Tooltip
>   tips = g.Tooltips()
>
/home/mark/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1=635247a74610064dd00787834890340a9babcaee/Wallpaper/main.py:42:
DeprecationWarning: Use the new widget gtk.Tooltip
>   tips.set_tip(spin, _('The backdrop is changed each time the pinboard '
> 
> ** (rox:8812): WARNING **: Failed to open file '/usr/share/rox/images/dirs.png': No such file or directory

What version of rox are you using? A deb package by the look of that
path, but the one in Ubuntu is really old and nobody's responded to
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rox/+bug/432614>. Feel like
compiling it from source? If not you could use 0install instead.

But the missing file is probably unconnected with the following error:

> The program 'rox' received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)'.
>   (Details: serial 454 error_code 5 request_code 20 minor_code 0)
>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful

Re: Wallpaper Has Stopped Working

On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:23:16 +0000
Tony Houghton <h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:29:27 +0000
> Mark Williams <mark.williams <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> > /home/mark/Apps/Settings/Wallpaper/AppRun' --sync
> > /home/mark/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1=635247a74610064dd00787834890340a9babcaee/Wallpaper/main.py:8:
> > DeprecationWarning: Use the new widget gtk.Tooltip tips =
> > g.Tooltips() /home/mark/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1=635247a74610064dd00787834890340a9babcaee/Wallpaper/main.py:42:
> > DeprecationWarning: Use the new widget gtk.Tooltip
> > tips.set_tip(spin, _('The backdrop is changed each time the
> > pinboard '
> > 
> > ** (rox:8812): WARNING **: Failed to open file
> > '/usr/share/rox/images/dirs.png': No such file or directory
> 
> What version of rox are you using? A deb package by the look of that
> path, but the one in Ubuntu is really old and nobody's responded to
> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rox/+bug/432614>. Feel like
> compiling it from source? If not you could use 0install instead.
> 
> But the missing file is probably unconnected with the following error:
> 
> > The program 'rox' received an X Window System error.
> > This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> > The error was 'BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)'.
> >   (Details: serial 454 error_code 5 request_code 20 minor_code 0)
> >   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported
> > asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after

Re: Wallpaper Has Stopped Working

In article <20091202212316.77f495ff <at> realh.co.uk>, Tony Houghton
<h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:29:27 +0000 Mark Williams
> <mark.williams <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:

<snip what Mark wrote>

> What version of rox are you using? A deb package by the look of that
> path, but the one in Ubuntu is really old and nobody's responded to
> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rox/+bug/432614>. Feel like
> compiling it from source? If not you could use 0install instead.

> I've been getting that a lot too, when I add an applet to the panel.
> It's quite likely a GTK error rather than Rox's fault (especially as
> it's occurring in two different versions if I've guessed right about the
> one you're using), but it's probably very rare for it to be triggered
> except by Rox (which is quite rare compared to GTK I suppose).

I'm also using the version of ROX supplied by synaptic for Ubuntu/Xubuntu.
The above prompts me to add the following in case it is related.

The quirks I described a while ago with the pinboard/wallpaper continue.
I've settled on booting up the laptop into Xubuntu with "rox -S" assigned
to F12. (Note that this does *not* include the -p= option.) I have
installed the 'wallpaper' app.

If I press F12 within a second or two of the xfce desktop appearing, then I
get rox *with* a backdrop and pinboard. (Regardless of the command issued
by F12 not including the pinboard option.)

Re: Wallpaper Has Stopped Working

On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:48:06 +0000 (GMT)
Jim Lesurf <jcgl <at> audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <20091202212316.77f495ff <at> realh.co.uk>, Tony Houghton
> <h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:29:27 +0000 Mark Williams
> > <mark.williams <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip what Mark wrote>
> 
> > What version of rox are you using? A deb package by the look of that
> > path, but the one in Ubuntu is really old and nobody's responded to
> > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rox/+bug/432614>. Feel
> > like compiling it from source? If not you could use 0install
> > instead.
> 
> 
> > I've been getting that a lot too, when I add an applet to the panel.
> > It's quite likely a GTK error rather than Rox's fault (especially as
> > it's occurring in two different versions if I've guessed right
> > about the one you're using), but it's probably very rare for it to
> > be triggered except by Rox (which is quite rare compared to GTK I
> > suppose).
> 
> I'm also using the version of ROX supplied by synaptic for
> Ubuntu/Xubuntu. The above prompts me to add the following in case it
> is related.
> 
> The quirks I described a while ago with the pinboard/wallpaper
> continue. I've settled on booting up the laptop into Xubuntu with

Re: Wallpaper Has Stopped Working

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:34:53 +0000
Mark Williams <mark.williams <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:48:06 +0000 (GMT)
> Jim Lesurf <jcgl <at> audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > In article <20091202212316.77f495ff <at> realh.co.uk>, Tony Houghton
> > <h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:
> > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rox/+bug/432614>. Feel

I'm keeping the link in because it might be a good idea if both of you,
and any other Ubuntu users, subscribe to the bug so the packagers might
take a bit more notice of it.

[Snip]

> > Given the above comments about the version I am using being old, etc,
> > I'd like to ask: How easy might it be to try a newer version, but
> > then be able to revert to what I have if that threw up other
> > problems? And if I tried this, which version is most likely to be
> > 'best' for my Xubuntu 9.04 laptop? The version of rox I'm using seems
> > fine to me at present. The only puzzle is the odd pinboard/backdrop
> > behaviour - which may well be due to a buglet in xfce, etc, anyway!

Add these lines to /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

(you can leave out the .uk if it isn't appropriate for you or happens

Re: Wallpaper Has Stopped Working

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:43:02 +0000
Tony Houghton <h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:

> apt-get source rox

That should be

apt-get source -t testing rox

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Re: Tasktray is Broken In Karmic

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:30:01 +0000
Tony Houghton <h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:26:28 +0100
> Tony Houghton <h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:17:14 +0100
> > Mark Williams <mark.williams <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'd post the bug report except this bleeding pop up window stops me from 
> > > doing so.
> > 
> > Oh no, they've gone and let that bug into Karmic have they? There's a
> > very simple patch at
> > <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549271> and
> > <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597319>. Please report the
> > bug to Ubuntu too if someone else hasn't already.
> 
> Ubuntu are aware of it, but according to upstream the bug is in libwnck,
> not the python bindings.
> 
> To fix it:
> 
> apt-get source libwnck
> cd libwnck-2.28.0
> <Drop the attached patch into debian/patches>
> rm libwnck/wnck-enum-types.*
> sudo apt-get build-dep libwnck
> dch -i
> <This opens the changelog in a text editor. Add some blurb if you like.

Re: Tasktray is Broken In Karmic

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:54:16 +0000
Abrolag <abrolag <at> users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Finally had time to try this out.
> 
> It seems to work fine with tasktray but devtray has a problem.
> 
> If you double-click on devtray to open a window it is OK, but if you
> drag it to the icon bar it 'soft' crashes roxfiler - in that you can
> restart rox and everything then works correctly, including tasktray.
> 
> Curiously if you have it loaded on the icon bar and do a restart
> everything works without problems!
> 
> This is running on debian squeeze

Yes, that's been happening to me (Debian sid) and Mark Williams (IIRC)
(Ubuntu) lately too, it isn't just DevTray. I think there's an obscure
bug in recent versions of GTK+.  I'll have to see if I can gather enough
information by using --sync and *-dbg packages to file a useful bug
report.

When developing Media I found that I could make the crashes at least
much rarer by changing the order in which the hierarchy of the applet's
widgets are shown and placed inside each other etc, but I'm not sure I
enirely cured it.

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Right click and selection

There's something I don't like about ROX's current behaviour. If you
have one or more files/directories selected and right-click over another
file that isn't selected, the selection doesn't change and any actions
in the menu apply to the previous selection instead of the item you've
just clicked.

I can't remember what RISC OS does/did, but I'm pretty sure most other
file managers replace the selection with the item you've clicked over
and it's what I'd expect to happen. I've accidentally deleted the wrong
thing at least once. Please could this feature be changed.

Another feature of other file managers I miss in ROX is shift-click to
select everything between the current selection and the clicked item.

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