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Mark Williams | 3 Oct 2009 10:22

Why Does This Happen? And How Can I Stop It?

1: Result of trying to run Load from new 0install.

Compiling

/home/mark/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1new=44ad1ccaed036457be70100b9751c6c4fcb35a4b/ROX-CLib... 
please wait...
rm: cannot remove

`/home/mark/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1new=44ad1ccaed036457be70100b9751c6c4fcb35a4b/ROX-CLib/src/Makefile': 
Permission denied
./configure: 47: cannot create conf22001.sh: Permission denied
./configure: 47: cannot create conf22001.sh: Permission denied
chmod: cannot access `conf22001.sh': No such file or directory
./configure: line 38: conf22001.sh: Permission denied
./configure: line 39: conf22001.sh: Permission denied
chmod: cannot access `conf22001.sh': No such file or directory
mkdir: cannot create directory `conf22001.dir': Permission denied
./configure: line 491: conf22001.file: Permission denied
./configure: line 517: conf22001.file: Permission denied
chmod: cannot access `conf22001.file': No such file or directory
./configure: line 1527: config.log: Permission denied
./configure: line 1537: config.log: Permission denied
Compile failed
Press Return...

2: Result of trying to configure Load from src package inside
appdir

:~/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1=2efbce28b251d4dcaeed372445b95094f4ee300c/Load/src$ 
./configure
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Tony Houghton | 5 Oct 2009 00:46
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ROX crashing when adding panel apps

ROX has recently started crashing frequently when I drag an applet on to
the panel. I ran it with --sync and got a backtrace, but I don't think
it looks very useful:

** (rox:12764): WARNING **: The program 'rox' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'.
  (Details: serial 27704 error_code 2 request_code 53 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger.)

...

Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted.
#0  0x00007f7a89155d25 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007f7a89155d25 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f7a89158de1 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x000000000043e285 in ?? ()
#3  0x00007f7a898def9c in _XError () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#4  0x00007f7a898e5f04 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#5  0x00007f7a898e65e0 in _XReply () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#6  0x00007f7a898c4cf9 in _XGetWindowAttributes () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#7  0x00007f7a898c4ea8 in XGetWindowAttributes () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
#8  0x00007f7a8ba70e5d in gdk_window_impl_x11_get_colormap (drawable=0x163f1e0)
    at /tmp/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.18.1/gdk/x11/gdkwindow-x11.c:376
#9  0x00007f7a8ba63818 in _gdk_pixmap_new (drawable=0x186ab70, width=10,
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Tony Houghton | 5 Oct 2009 01:35
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Re: ROX crashing when adding panel apps

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:46:37 +0100
Tony Houghton <h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:

[Backtrace from ROX]

I just installed libx11-6-dbg which might make that backtrace a bit more
useful:

#3  0x00007f8f2b360f9c in _XError (dpy=0xb41660, rep=0xf71990)
    at ../../src/XlibInt.c:2924
#4  0x00007f8f2b367f04 in process_responses (dpy=0xb41660, 
    wait_for_first_event=0, current_error=0x7fffd6e27078, 
    current_request=114880) at ../../src/xcb_io.c:207
#5  0x00007f8f2b3685e0 in _XReply (dpy=0xb41660, rep=0x7fffd6e270c0, extra=0, 
    discard=1) at ../../src/xcb_io.c:457
#6  0x00007f8f2b346cf9 in _XGetWindowAttributes (dpy=0xb41660, 
    w=<value optimized out>, attr=0x7fffd6e27170) at ../../src/GetWAttrs.c:116
#7  0x00007f8f2b346ea8 in XGetWindowAttributes (dpy=0xb41660, w=16777219, 
    attr=0x7fffd6e27170) at ../../src/GetWAttrs.c:151

FWIW I'm using an x86_64 system, which might have something to do with
it. I know there's some weirdness in 32-/64-bit issues in X!

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Thomas Leonard | 6 Oct 2009 20:45
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Re: Why Does This Happen? And How Can I Stop It?

2009/10/3 Mark Williams <mark.williams <at> ntlworld.com>:
> 1: Result of trying to run Load from new 0install.
[...]

I think this isn't working too well. Zero Install was supposed to
allow individual developers to publish their own programs, but many of
the developers have said they don't use it themselves, and this
results in a lot of broken packages.

One possible solution: put all the feeds on rox.sourceforge.net and
assemble a team of people who all have permission to update them and
patch as needed. Would anyone be interested in joining such a team?

Patching programs mainly consists of just deleting code that
duplicates functionality that's provided by the package manager (e.g.
see my blog for a patch to this issue:
http://roscidus.com/desktop/node/942).

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Abrolag | 6 Oct 2009 23:07
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Strange bug with DevTray

I've just applied the latest updates to debian squeeze (testing) and
now I get a strange error message, but only on filer windows and only
if DevTray is on the icon bar.

This happens if maximizing/minimising a window or if shading (scroll
up) or unshading it.

The message given is:

AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute
'WINDOW_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION"

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Tony Houghton | 6 Oct 2009 23:40
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Re: Strange bug with DevTray

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:07:19 +0100
Abrolag <abrolag <at> users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> I've just applied the latest updates to debian squeeze (testing) and
> now I get a strange error message, but only on filer windows and only
> if DevTray is on the icon bar.
> 
> This happens if maximizing/minimising a window or if shading (scroll
> up) or unshading it.
> 
> The message given is:
> 
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute
> 'WINDOW_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION"

Me too, but I've fixed it. See
<http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549271> and
<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597319>.

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Jim Lesurf | 7 Oct 2009 15:41
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Re: Pinboard puzzles

Just to report progress <sic> with this...

I have now downloaded and tried using the 'Wallpaper' rox app. But that
also does not reliably give me a backdrop and pinboard. 

As with various other options I've tried, it gave them on the first startup
after the session in which I installed it and gave it some images. But
since then it only works on occasion. Usually I end up having to open a
terminal and type in 'rox --pinboard=MyPinboard' to get a backdrop and
pinboard. This doesn't work from an xfce key assignment. Only from a
terminal.

I sometimes see a brief flash of a background image during a shutdown. But
setting the xfce background colour to 'transparent' doesn't make the image
visible. I then just get a muddled background as xfce seems to display an
undefined memory area I guess.

So I remain puzzled and unable to get a reliable backdrop and pinboard for
rox. Help would be welcome!

Slainte,

Jim

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Tony Houghton | 7 Oct 2009 16:26
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Re: Pinboard puzzles

On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:41:47 +0100
Jim Lesurf <jcgl <at> audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

> Just to report progress <sic> with this...
> 
> I have now downloaded and tried using the 'Wallpaper' rox app. But that
> also does not reliably give me a backdrop and pinboard. 
> 
> As with various other options I've tried, it gave them on the first startup
> after the session in which I installed it and gave it some images. But
> since then it only works on occasion. Usually I end up having to open a
> terminal and type in 'rox --pinboard=MyPinboard' to get a backdrop and
> pinboard. This doesn't work from an xfce key assignment. Only from a
> terminal.
> 
> I sometimes see a brief flash of a background image during a shutdown. But
> setting the xfce background colour to 'transparent' doesn't make the image
> visible. I then just get a muddled background as xfce seems to display an
> undefined memory area I guess.
> 
> So I remain puzzled and unable to get a reliable backdrop and pinboard for
> rox. Help would be welcome!

It sounds like xfce is "in charge of" your backdrop. Explore its options
to see if there's a way to stop it loading (is thunar in charge of the
xfce backdrop?).

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Jim Lesurf | 7 Oct 2009 17:27
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Re: Pinboard puzzles

In article <20091007152646.774af9d3 <at> realh.co.uk>, Tony Houghton
<h <at> realh.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> > 
> > So I remain puzzled and unable to get a reliable backdrop and pinboard
> > for rox. Help would be welcome!

> It sounds like xfce is "in charge of" your backdrop. Explore its options
> to see if there's a way to stop it loading (is thunar in charge of the
> xfce backdrop?).

Thunar is running as a process IIRC. I think I recall it being listed as
one. I have been furtling around with various of the xfce settings, etc.
Had hoped that making the xfce background 'transparent' would do the trick.
But no. I'll keep looking, though...

To some extent I can see that the problem is self-inflicted as I want to
boot up into a semi-standard Xubuntu/xfce desktop to access that in the way
normal for that. Some of the time I want to be able to fall back on using
that, and being able to boot into that as a state at present gives me
confidence when exploring ROX[1].

But then to be able to launch my ROX desktop - keeping the top panel from
Xubuntu! Maybe this is inherently going to lead to such a problem.

However the centra puzzle for me is: I can always get the following to
work.

1) Boot up into Xubuntu/xfce and have that work OK.
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Mark Williams | 7 Oct 2009 17:39

Re: Pinboard puzzles

Jim Lesurf wrote:
> In article<20091007152646.774af9d3 <at> realh.co.uk>, Tony Houghton
> <h <at> realh.co.uk>  wrote:
> [snip]
>>>
>>> So I remain puzzled and unable to get a reliable backdrop and pinboard
>>> for rox. Help would be welcome!
>
>> It sounds like xfce is "in charge of" your backdrop. Explore its options
>> to see if there's a way to stop it loading (is thunar in charge of the
>> xfce backdrop?).
>
> Thunar is running as a process IIRC. I think I recall it being listed as
> one. I have been furtling around with various of the xfce settings, etc.
> Had hoped that making the xfce background 'transparent' would do the trick.
> But no. I'll keep looking, though...
>
> To some extent I can see that the problem is self-inflicted as I want to
> boot up into a semi-standard Xubuntu/xfce desktop to access that in the way
> normal for that. Some of the time I want to be able to fall back on using
> that, and being able to boot into that as a state at present gives me
> confidence when exploring ROX[1].
>
> But then to be able to launch my ROX desktop - keeping the top panel from
> Xubuntu! Maybe this is inherently going to lead to such a problem.
>
> However the centra puzzle for me is: I can always get the following to
> work.
>
> 1) Boot up into Xubuntu/xfce and have that work OK.
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