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Rox filer strangeness

Just upgraded from debian lenny to squeeze and the desktop would no
longer work, ROX crashes out - even with a reboot.

Found that rox by itself still worked normally but rox -S was where the
problem was.

Removing ROX-Filer and re-compiling/installing it cures the problem, so
I wonder if there has been a library change somewhere.

This happened on two quite different machines, with ROX-Filer-2.9

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Re: Rox filer strangeness

2009/9/4 Abrolag <abrolag <at> users.sourceforge.net>:
> Just upgraded from debian lenny to squeeze and the desktop would no
> longer work, ROX crashes out - even with a reboot.

Is this the Zero Install version (currently 2.10) or the Debian package version?

Try:

$ rox --debug
(gdb) run -S
[ crash ]
(gdb) bt

http://roscidus.com/desktop/node/16

> Found that rox by itself still worked normally but rox -S was where the
> problem was.
>
> Removing ROX-Filer and re-compiling/installing it cures the problem, so
> I wonder if there has been a library change somewhere.
>
> This happened on two quite different machines, with ROX-Filer-2.9

Anyone else seeing this?

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Utility/Clock not working and a few other things

Hello,

I gave ROX desktop another try today and the application "Clock" in the
Utility directory is not working. It complains about a missing
libglitz.so.1 or something... the error message at the front of the screen
passed by so fast, I couldn't read it all.

I tried the ROX desktop before and when trying out all the apps in ROX-All I
remember having had many frustrating experiences with apps not working.
Furthermore, In order to run them, I had to confirm "trust this key" for
many people I never heard of (and don't trust). As running an app from an
untrusted source is always a security risk (it could contain malicious
software), I find this state of affairs quite unsatisfactory and it deters
me from seriously considering ROX desktop for regular use.

I also don't like how ROX-Session gives me the choice between either letting
it do things as root or hacking some files (.Xsession or something?) in my
home-directory. I would much prefer if the ROX desktop - or maybe a subset
of it - would be included as packages into Debian fair and square, so that
the usual Debian mechanisms for assuring quality would apply.

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Re: [rox-users] Utility/Clock not working and a few other things

2009/9/5 Karsten Loeft <takio04 <at> yahoo.de>:
> Hello,
>
> I gave ROX desktop another try today and the application "Clock" in the
> Utility directory is not working. It complains about a missing
> libglitz.so.1 or something... the error message at the front of the screen
> passed by so fast, I couldn't read it all.

Known bug. Stephen, any chance of getting this fixed?

> I tried the ROX desktop before and when trying out all the apps in ROX-All I
> remember having had many frustrating experiences with apps not working.

Details?

> Furthermore, In order to run them, I had to confirm "trust this key" for
> many people I never heard of (and don't trust). As running an app from an
> untrusted source is always a security risk (it could contain malicious
> software), I find this state of affairs quite unsatisfactory and it deters
> me from seriously considering ROX desktop for regular use.

> I also don't like how ROX-Session gives me the choice between either letting
> it do things as root or hacking some files (.Xsession or something?) in my
> home-directory. I would much prefer if the ROX desktop - or maybe a subset
> of it - would be included as packages into Debian fair and square, so that
> the usual Debian mechanisms for assuring quality would apply.

If you don't trust the original upstream author of a program, don't
run it. Debian packagers do not, generally, take malicious code and
make it safe (they do occasionally take safe code and make it

ROX-Session

How about integrating the window manager chooser from ROX-Session-0.40.0 
into the next version of 0.3x?

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Re: [rox-users] Utility/Clock not working and a few other things

Thomas Leonard wrote:

> 2009/9/5 Karsten Loeft <takio04 <at> yahoo.de>:
>> I tried the ROX desktop before and when trying out all the apps in
>> ROX-All I remember having had many frustrating experiences with apps not
>> working.
> 
> Details?

I don't remember the exact bugs I encountered in the past, but I just tried
some more applications again, and found that Settings/Appearance,
System/Load and System/System don't work, either. For Settings/Appearance I
was given the choice to save a bug report, which I attach to this post. I
am sorry that I have to say that but whenever I tried ROX desktop, I
encountered a lot of brokenness, as if the whole project was in a state of
disrepair.

If you want, I can systematically try out every application here, and do my
best to collect the error messages (usually they appear on the screen,
either at the top or at the bottom, for a few seconds only, which makes
them hard to copy). But, to me as a mere user, it looks as if the
development model was broken if it allows so much breakage in the first
place. If there was a central repository hosting all ROX applications and
keeping of them only a version which was tested for some time and is known
to work and work together with all the other parts, then there would be a
stable, reliable release, and if many people tested it and it worked for
them then it would gain a good reputation, which creates trust.

>> Furthermore, In order to run them, I had to confirm "trust this key" for
>> many people I never heard of (and don't trust). As running an app from an

Problem opening directories with spaces

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You could put a dash between USB and Disk.

Seems ROX won't open directories with any spaces in the names.

Is there any particular reason you want the directory name to have a space?

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Re: (no subject)

On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:23:46 +0100
Mark Williams <mark.williams <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:

> You could put a dash between USB and Disk.
> 
> Seems ROX won't open directories with any spaces in the names.

Not true. I have lots of directories with spaces in, nested ones too.
Rox has no problem wit these. Must be something funny about the O/Ps
setup

> Is there any particular reason you want the directory name to have a space?

Personally I do this because it makes them easier to read, and allows a
sane formatting of long directory/file names.

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