Re: ROX-All 1.4

Tried it.  Working rather well.

J.E.B.

> I'm trying an experiment: ROX-All 1.4 should be easy to install even
> on machines without Internet connections. Instructions are here:
> 
>   http://roscidus.com/desktop/ROX-All
> 
> The other change is that some programs whose Zero Install feeds are no
> longer available were removed and Zero Install itself was removed from
> the archive (since most popular distributions include it now and the
> bundled copies tended to get out-of-date).
> 
> Also, ROX-All now has its own Zero Install feed
> (http://rox.sourceforge.net/2008/ROX-All.xml). Running it opens the
> applications directory. The main advantage of this is that you can
> pass the feed URL to 0export to generate the bundle. e.g. I used this
> command:
> 
>   $ xargs 0export --arch Linux-i586 --arch Linux-x86_64
> rox-all-no-network.sh http://rox.sourceforge.net/2008/ROX-All.xml <
> bundle-list
> 
> This creates a self-extracting archive that includes ROX-All and all
> the applications in "bundle-list", for x86 and x86_64 machines.
> 
> 

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How to set WM (?) in ROX-Session

OK.  Am on Mint, have got ROX-Session running.  (Quite beautiful, by the 
way, nice and fast, and UI very intuitive.)  It is looking to me, that I 
am missing something important, though I don't know what.  The widgets 
have clearly changed some, which is good (everything is faster), but I 
don't have a menu or icon which represents/delivers logoff, shutdown, or 
xterm.  I can build an icon for xterm and shutdown, but what about 
logoff?  Is there a fundamental package I am missing?  I did a bunch of 
hunting, didn't find anything obvious.

J.E.B.

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Re: Accessing Ubuntu System Menu

IMHO, the best solution would be to ask Konstantin Korikov to add an
Administration submenu to his XDG-Menu panel applet:
http://xdg-menu.sourceforge.net/

Meanwhile, go to /usr/share/applications with ROX Filer and click on
the launcher of whichever application you want to start.
Unfortunately, the file names are different from what you can see in
System/Administration.

Ariszló

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:07 PM,  <lrspares45 <at> aol.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> is there a way to access the Ubuntu System->Administration->etc  menu system
> from ROX, or from the command line for that matter?
>
> Cheers
> Richard

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Re: Accessing Ubuntu System Menu

On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 13:53 +0100, Ariszló wrote:
> IMHO, the best solution would be to ask Konstantin Korikov to add an
> Administration submenu to his XDG-Menu panel applet:
> http://xdg-menu.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Meanwhile, go to /usr/share/applications with ROX Filer and click on
> the launcher of whichever application you want to start.
> Unfortunately, the file names are different from what you can see in
> System/Administration.
> 
> Ariszló

Thanks for that, but the problem is I don't know what the application is
called (I want to allow remote login), which is why I wanted to open the
menu so to speak so I can follow the Ubuntu tutorial.

Cheers
Richard

> 
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:07 PM,  <lrspares45 <at> aol.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > is there a way to access the Ubuntu System->Administration->etc  menu system
> > from ROX, or from the command line for that matter?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Richard
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Re: How to set WM (?) in ROX-Session

2009/1/4 Jonathan E. Brickman <jeb <at> joshuacorps.org>:
> OK.  Am on Mint, have got ROX-Session running.  (Quite beautiful, by the
> way, nice and fast, and UI very intuitive.)  It is looking to me, that I
> am missing something important, though I don't know what.  The widgets
> have clearly changed some, which is good (everything is faster), but I
> don't have a menu or icon which represents/delivers logoff, shutdown, or
> xterm.  I can build an icon for xterm and shutdown, but what about
> logoff?  Is there a fundamental package I am missing?  I did a bunch of
> hunting, didn't find anything obvious.

Clicking on ROX-Session should provide some options...

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Re: ROX-All 1.4

That's good to hear 

2009/1/4 Jonathan E. Brickman <jeb <at> joshuacorps.org>:
> Tried it.  Working rather well.
>
> J.E.B.
>
>
>> I'm trying an experiment: ROX-All 1.4 should be easy to install even
>> on machines without Internet connections. Instructions are here:
>>
>>   http://roscidus.com/desktop/ROX-All
>>
>> The other change is that some programs whose Zero Install feeds are no
>> longer available were removed and Zero Install itself was removed from
>> the archive (since most popular distributions include it now and the
>> bundled copies tended to get out-of-date).
>>
>> Also, ROX-All now has its own Zero Install feed
>> (http://rox.sourceforge.net/2008/ROX-All.xml). Running it opens the
>> applications directory. The main advantage of this is that you can
>> pass the feed URL to 0export to generate the bundle. e.g. I used this
>> command:
>>
>>   $ xargs 0export --arch Linux-i586 --arch Linux-x86_64
>> rox-all-no-network.sh http://rox.sourceforge.net/2008/ROX-All.xml <
>> bundle-list
>>
>> This creates a self-extracting archive that includes ROX-All and all
>> the applications in "bundle-list", for x86 and x86_64 machines.
>>
>>
>
>
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AppDirs and the shell

The page http://roscidus.com/desktop/AppDirs says:

"You do not need to change your PATH variable to use an application directory. To be found by the shell (which
must be application-directory aware) ... "

My feeble eyes didn't find mention of shells that are application-directory aware. Is there a list
somewhere of shells that are known to be? I tried a feeble little experiment with the bash, and either I made
a silly mistake or bash is not application-directory aware.

-Mithat

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Suggestion: Replace Picky With Mirage

Mirage is a fine lightweight image viewer and would make an excellent default for Rox.

Five reasons.

1: It uses python, libx11 and libc libraries exclusively, and you like those

2: Supports drag and drop loading of images (no XDND saving yet, but I'm sure someone could work that in)

3: Built in custom menu allows images to be opened in the graphics manipulation tool of the user's choice.

4: Offers the user a range of basic image viewing and manipulation options including rotate, resize,
slideshow and thumbnail creation.

5: Built in screenshot utility

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Best place for system-wide ROXApps in Linux?

I've got some ROXApps that I want to make available system-wide in Debian. My first thought was to create a
directory in /usr/local and place the application folders in there (e.g. /usr/local/apps). After that I
would create scripts in /usr/local/bin that call each ROXApp's AppRun so that the Apps are also available
at the command line.

However, after reading http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-4.9.html#FN23, I get the impression
that maybe I'm not supposed to be making new directories in /usr/local. Or may I?

Any other suggestions for the best place to plant system-wide ROXApps?

-Mithat

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